[quote]dnlcdstn wrote:
When government takes money from someone who earned it and gives it to someone who did not earn it they’ve not helped either person![/quote]
Absolutely true. Don’t give a man a dollar. Give him an opportunity.[/quote]
I’ll pay you three dollars a day to clean my entire house, take care of my dogs, and do my grocery shopping.
What? You dont do it because its a lot of work for shit pay? BUT I’M GIVING YOU AN OPPORTUNITY, I’M CREATING A JOB!
Ungrateful prick. The nerve. :P[/quote]
Well, we’d have to come to some kind of agreement. If I have no leverage than I would clean the fuck out of your house and get your groceries home nice n bruise free. Then I would go to the next person and do the same thing. If I didn’t have a job, I’d do whatever I had to do to make money. I’ve worked plenty of hours laying asphalt and pouring concrete. I’ve worked hard when I didn’t want to.
In your world I should just sit on my ass and say “fuck it. I wasn’t born into money so fuck the world. Nobody beat down my door and begged me to work for them today so I don’t have any opportunities.”
You’re a pathetic excuse for a man. I hope you don’t raise children to have your views and beliefs.
[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
Here’s a thought.
Instead of having people get welfare checks, why not teach them(the school would be mandatory) some skills so they can get a decent job that is the first step to a better life, and if they’re doing this, let them have housing and food stamps while they’re buliding themselves up.
(sorry if this is being done, but to my knowledge it isn’t)[/quote]
Brilliant fucking suggestion.
Don’t you all find it strange that kids are leaving high school with virtually no more skills than they walking in with?
Every school seems to be trying to mould kids into mere memory banks. I can’t even say “thinkers” because it’s not about thinking, it’s just memorizing mostly irrelevant facts and doing mostly irrelevant tasks.
I see no reason why kids can’t leave highschool as perfectly adequate plumbers or carpenters, but I suppose this is just what you get from a system rooted in a coercive monopoly. =/
[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
Here’s a thought.
Instead of having people get welfare checks, why not teach them(the school would be mandatory) some skills so they can get a decent job that is the first step to a better life, and if they’re doing this, let them have housing and food stamps while they’re buliding themselves up.
(sorry if this is being done, but to my knowledge it isn’t)[/quote]
Brilliant fucking suggestion.
Don’t you all find it strange that kids are leaving high school with virtually no more skills than they walking in with?
Every school seems to be trying to mould kids into mere memory banks. I can’t even say “thinkers” because it’s not about thinking, it’s just memorizing mostly irrelevant facts and doing mostly irrelevant tasks.
I see no reason why kids can’t leave highschool as perfectly adequate plumbers or carpenters, but I suppose this is just what you get from a system rooted in a coercive monopoly. =/ [/quote]
[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
Here’s a thought.
Instead of having people get welfare checks, why not teach them(the school would be mandatory) some skills so they can get a decent job that is the first step to a better life, and if they’re doing this, let them have housing and food stamps while they’re buliding themselves up.
(sorry if this is being done, but to my knowledge it isn’t)[/quote]
Brilliant fucking suggestion.
Don’t you all find it strange that kids are leaving high school with virtually no more skills than they walking in with?
Every school seems to be trying to mould kids into mere memory banks. I can’t even say “thinkers” because it’s not about thinking, it’s just memorizing mostly irrelevant facts and doing mostly irrelevant tasks.
I see no reason why kids can’t leave highschool as perfectly adequate plumbers or carpenters, but I suppose this is just what you get from a system rooted in a coercive monopoly. =/ [/quote]
[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
Here’s a thought.
Instead of having people get welfare checks, why not teach them(the school would be mandatory) some skills so they can get a decent job that is the first step to a better life, and if they’re doing this, let them have housing and food stamps while they’re buliding themselves up.
(sorry if this is being done, but to my knowledge it isn’t)[/quote]
Brilliant fucking suggestion.
Don’t you all find it strange that kids are leaving high school with virtually no more skills than they walking in with?
Every school seems to be trying to mould kids into mere memory banks. I can’t even say “thinkers” because it’s not about thinking, it’s just memorizing mostly irrelevant facts and doing mostly irrelevant tasks.
I see no reason why kids can’t leave highschool as perfectly adequate plumbers or carpenters, but I suppose this is just what you get from a system rooted in a coercive monopoly. =/ [/quote]
That’s what they do in some other countries. I know my friend in Serbia, he’s 17, and his high school studies consist of premed classes because that is what’s down the road for him.
High school should be where you start choosing and learn skills necessary not only for the career you are interested in, but for life as well. But at the same time if people were taught how to do things and actually think, they wouldn’t be poor and stupid, and certain groups wouldn’t benefit from it.
I know things would be different for me.
The world also needs more mentors.
[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
Here’s a thought.
Instead of having people get welfare checks, why not teach them(the school would be mandatory) some skills so they can get a decent job that is the first step to a better life, and if they’re doing this, let them have housing and food stamps while they’re buliding themselves up.
(sorry if this is being done, but to my knowledge it isn’t)[/quote]
Brilliant fucking suggestion.
Don’t you all find it strange that kids are leaving high school with virtually no more skills than they walking in with?
Every school seems to be trying to mould kids into mere memory banks. I can’t even say “thinkers” because it’s not about thinking, it’s just memorizing mostly irrelevant facts and doing mostly irrelevant tasks.
I see no reason why kids can’t leave highschool as perfectly adequate plumbers or carpenters, but I suppose this is just what you get from a system rooted in a coercive monopoly. =/ [/quote]
Schools used to be about making the best citizen possible. Now the goal is to bring out a child’s full potential… whatever the hell that means.
I’m all for more vocational schools. Hell, after 8th grade, give a kid a choice to go to a college prep school, vocational school, or join the workforce. I think that would do a lot of good. Not everyone is cut out to go to college.
If I had my own school system, these would be mandatory(not in any order of importance)
Life skills course, which would include(but not limited to): CPR, first aid, food handlers course(now everyone is qualified for a job), changing a flat tire, swimming, nutrition, keyboard/computer/internet skills, financial management/basic accounting
Self-defense/martial arts
Sciences, chem, bio, physics, etc
Basic shop/trades, ie some mechanical, carpentry, electrical, plumbing, painting, etc
Law and Politics(I think these two go hand-in-hand, right?)
History, social science, geography, learn about your country and the rest of the world
Phys. Ed., nutrition could also be addressed here if life skills got too big
Foreign languages would be elective(if there’s room) and/or extracurricular
Art would be extracurricular just like sports teams
[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
If I had my own school system, these would be mandatory(not in any order of importance)
Life skills course, which would include(but not limited to): CPR, first aid, food handlers course(now everyone is qualified for a job), changing a flat tire, swimming, nutrition, keyboard/computer/internet skills,
Self-defense/martial arts
Sciences, chem, bio, physics, etc
Basic shop/trades, ie some mechanical, carpentry, electrical, plumbing, painting, etc
Law and Politics(I think these two go hand-in-hand, right?)
History, social science, geography, learn about your country and the rest of the world
Phys. Ed., nutrition could also be addressed here if life skills got too big
Foreign languages would be elective(if there’s room) and/or extracurricular
Art would be extracurricular just like sports teams
Criticisms? alterations?[/quote]
Great idea. Maybe take a college approach and have a major in high school. Your first year or two you can be undeclared, but focus on a particular career path junior and senior year.
[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
If I had my own school system, these would be mandatory(not in any order of importance)
Life skills course, which would include(but not limited to): CPR, first aid, food handlers course(now everyone is qualified for a job), changing a flat tire, swimming, nutrition, keyboard/computer/internet skills,
Self-defense/martial arts
Sciences, chem, bio, physics, etc
Basic shop/trades, ie some mechanical, carpentry, electrical, plumbing, painting, etc
Law and Politics(I think these two go hand-in-hand, right?)
History, social science, geography, learn about your country and the rest of the world
Phys. Ed., nutrition could also be addressed here if life skills got too big
Foreign languages would be elective(if there’s room) and/or extracurricular
Art would be extracurricular just like sports teams
Criticisms? alterations?[/quote]
Great idea. Maybe take a college approach and have a major in high school. Your first year or two you can be undeclared, but focus on a particular career path junior and senior year.[/quote]
Very interesting idea, I think this approach would have alot of merit. I would add to Matty’s list, some education on personal finance and the dangers of personal debt.
[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
If I had my own school system, these would be mandatory(not in any order of importance)
Life skills course, which would include(but not limited to): CPR, first aid, food handlers course(now everyone is qualified for a job), changing a flat tire, swimming, nutrition, keyboard/computer/internet skills,
Self-defense/martial arts
Sciences, chem, bio, physics, etc
Basic shop/trades, ie some mechanical, carpentry, electrical, plumbing, painting, etc
Law and Politics(I think these two go hand-in-hand, right?)
History, social science, geography, learn about your country and the rest of the world
Phys. Ed., nutrition could also be addressed here if life skills got too big
Foreign languages would be elective(if there’s room) and/or extracurricular
Art would be extracurricular just like sports teams
Criticisms? alterations?[/quote]
Great idea. Maybe take a college approach and have a major in high school. Your first year or two you can be undeclared, but focus on a particular career path junior and senior year.[/quote]
Very interesting idea, I think this approach would have alot of merit. I would add to Matty’s list, some education on personal finance and the dangers of personal debt. [/quote]
Dammit!! lol I knew I was missing one. Edited the OP.
[quote]bigflamer wrote:
I would add to Matty’s list, some education on personal finance and the dangers of personal debt. [/quote]
Tell that to pro athletes. Those guys are train wrecks 5 years after the league.
I like richdads view on assets. Like your house isn’t an asset unless it’s providing positive cash flow, otherwise it’s a liability. I think Rich Dad Poor Dad should be a mandatory read in high school.
[quote]bigflamer wrote:
I would add to Matty’s list, some education on personal finance and the dangers of personal debt. [/quote]
Hell yes on that one. The most finance I ever saw in school was how to put numbers in a debit or credit column and make things balance. Funny how the one topic that will affect every single student every single day of his/her entire life is so lacking.
← 2.99% introductory APR? I can’t go wrong with this!
Some friends of mine that went down to Minnesota or North Dakota, they went to buy something, and said ‘do you take interac?’(debit card), and the people didn’t know what it was.
So, to ask a possibly stupid question, do Americans haven’t debit cards or was this just a chance accident?
