The Face of Poverty in America

Off Topic Politics, World Issues
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Poor Ohio Family Forced to Scrimp on Food

Angelica Hernandez (left) and her mother, Gloria Nunez, struggle to make ends meet on a very limited budget. (NPR)

NPR aired a sad piece on the Nunez family in Ohio who can no longer afford meat. It’s a good thing they’re a radio channel.

Gloria Nunez has never worked. She says that since her car broke down (imagine that?) her daughter can’t look for a job either. And, they’re scrimping on food:

The rising cost of food means their money gets them about a third fewer bags of groceries �?? $100 used to buy about 12 bags of groceries, but now it’s more like seven or eight.

They could probably do just fine with a few bags less of groceries, but that’s just me. A little walking probably wouldn’t hurt either.

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Cheap food is full of fat and carbs but not much protien. Cheap cuts of meat have lots of fat. It is easy to get fat off of cheap food. It costs to eat clean and lean.

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[quote]Sifu wrote:
Cheap food is full of fat and carbs but not much protien. Cheap cuts of meat have lots of fat. It is easy to get fat off of cheap food. It costs to eat clean and lean. [/quote]

It only costs to eat clean and lean if you’re a freaken bodybuilder.

If I suddenly went broke and had no immediate prospects, I sure as hell wouldn’t start stuffing myself with cheezits and ho-hos. I’d just eat a lot less.

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It is easy to get fat off of cheap food. You can get five packs of Ramman noodles for a dollar. Ground chuck is cheaper than ground sirloin.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1531487/The-greater-your-weight,-the-lower-your-IQ,-say-scientists.html

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[quote]Sifu wrote:
It is easy to get fat off of cheap food. You can get five packs of Ramman noodles for a dollar. Ground chuck is cheaper than ground sirloin. [/quote]

Then don’t eat 50 packs of noodles every day. There, money saved. Double bonus.

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[quote]lixy wrote:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1531487/The-greater-your-weight,-the-lower-your-IQ,-say-scientists.html[/quote]

http://www.humorscore.com/videos/Family_Guy_Videos/Family_Guy_-_Jake_The_Fat_Man

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[quote]NateOrade wrote:
lixy wrote:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1531487/The-greater-your-weight,-the-lower-your-IQ,-say-scientists.html

http://www.humorscore.com/videos/Family_Guy_Videos/Family_Guy_-_Jake_The_Fat_Man [/quote]

Someone should drink their milkshake.

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Is there no public transportation in Ohio? No bus? Nothing? Why exactly has she never worked? Is she not in walking distance of ANY job?

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NE Ohio went to hell in the middle of the 80s and has never recovered

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I grew up poor and I can tell from first-hand experience, that most people who are poor in America deserve it. They don’t bother to graduate from high school, get pregnant at 17 (or younger), or smoke dope…then bitch because life is so ‘unfair’. Is it? Is it really?

NE Ohio has a lot of people who’d rather sit and collect welfare than move to where jobs are. “I can’t relocate! I’d miss my mom!!” Okay, then be unemployed and quit complaining about it.

A lot of inner city kids here never graduate from high school. Cleveland has a rate of 33%. Some of the girls have 2 babies by the time they are 18. The boys hold a job for 2 weeks and then complain because they didn’t get promoted.

Life’s unfair? Yeah…

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
I grew up poor and I can tell from first-hand experience, that most people who are poor in America deserve it. They don’t bother to graduate from high school, get pregnant at 17 (or younger), or smoke dope…then bitch because life is so ‘unfair’. Is it? Is it really?

NE Ohio has a lot of people who’d rather sit and collect welfare than move to where jobs are. “I can’t relocate! I’d miss my mom!!” Okay, then be unemployed and quit complaining about it.

A lot of inner city kids here never graduate from high school. Cleveland has a rate of 33%. Some of the girls have 2 babies by the time they are 18. The boys hold a job for 2 weeks and then complain because they didn’t get promoted.

Life’s unfair? Yeah…[/quote]

Gotta agree with you here…

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
I grew up poor and I can tell from first-hand experience, that most people who are poor in America deserve it. They don’t bother to graduate from high school, get pregnant at 17 (or younger), or smoke dope…then bitch because life is so ‘unfair’. Is it? Is it really?

NE Ohio has a lot of people who’d rather sit and collect welfare than move to where jobs are. “I can’t relocate! I’d miss my mom!!” Okay, then be unemployed and quit complaining about it.

A lot of inner city kids here never graduate from high school. Cleveland has a rate of 33%. Some of the girls have 2 babies by the time they are 18. The boys hold a job for 2 weeks and then complain because they didn’t get promoted.

Life’s unfair? Yeah…[/quote]

I would not totally agree with you on NE Ohio, Reagan F–ked all the unions in the 80�??s. Most of the steel mills went out of business because Reagan opened the door to steel imports. Other Countries were dumping steel on America�??s shore cheaper than we could make it.

But the whole steel valley never recovered, it reminds me of Eastern Europe. When I read the likes of Beowulf, I understand they have never been in an economy that is so depressed that there are no jobs.

All of the most employable workers are working at Wal-Mart and the likes. Before Reagan you had thousands of high paying jobs that supported everybody to the middle class life style.

All the high school kids had good paying jobs because there was no one other than high school kids to work retail, fast food and service jobs. Now all of the best workers are doing those menial jobs . And you have a whole generation growing up, not knowing how to work.

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
I grew up poor and I can tell from first-hand experience, that most people who are poor in America deserve it. They don’t bother to graduate from high school, get pregnant at 17 (or younger), or smoke dope…then bitch because life is so ‘unfair’. Is it? Is it really?

NE Ohio has a lot of people who’d rather sit and collect welfare than move to where jobs are. “I can’t relocate! I’d miss my mom!!” Okay, then be unemployed and quit complaining about it.

A lot of inner city kids here never graduate from high school. Cleveland has a rate of 33%. Some of the girls have 2 babies by the time they are 18. The boys hold a job for 2 weeks and then complain because they didn’t get promoted.

Life’s unfair? Yeah…

I would not totally agree with you on NE Ohio, Reagan F–ked all the unions in the 80�??s. Most of the steel mills went out of business because Reagan opened the door to steel imports. Other Countries were dumping steel on America�??s shore cheaper than we could make it.

But the whole steel valley never recovered, it reminds me of Eastern Europe. When I read the likes of Beowulf, I understand they have never been in an economy that is so depressed that there are no jobs. All of the most employable workers are working at Wal-Mart and the likes.

Before Reagan you had thousands of high paying jobs that supported everybody to the middle class life style. All the high school kids had good paying jobs because there was no one other than high school kids to work retail, fast food and service jobs. Now all of the best workers are doing those menial jobs . And you have a whole generation growing up, not knowing how to work.

[/quote]

It’s sad when politicians get involved with the economy. But it’s one thing that should be factored into the equation.

Barack is probably going to be President. He will harm capital spending in favor of the ‘poor and deserving’, which will wind up making more people poor. The thing to do then is: how can we make ourselves immune to that personally?

Since there will be more poverty and crime, move to places where those with money will flee to escape the accompanying crime and violence. Small resort towns like Traverse City, MI (one of my favorite vacation haunts) would be ideal. A gradual increase in population will cause mini-booms in those areas.

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
I grew up poor and I can tell from first-hand experience, that most people who are poor in America deserve it. They don’t bother to graduate from high school, get pregnant at 17 (or younger), or smoke dope…then bitch because life is so ‘unfair’. Is it? Is it really?

NE Ohio has a lot of people who’d rather sit and collect welfare than move to where jobs are. “I can’t relocate! I’d miss my mom!!” Okay, then be unemployed and quit complaining about it.

A lot of inner city kids here never graduate from high school. Cleveland has a rate of 33%. Some of the girls have 2 babies by the time they are 18. The boys hold a job for 2 weeks and then complain because they didn’t get promoted.

Life’s unfair? Yeah…

I would not totally agree with you on NE Ohio, Reagan F–ked all the unions in the 80�??s. Most of the steel mills went out of business because Reagan opened the door to steel imports. Other Countries were dumping steel on America�??s shore cheaper than we could make it.

But the whole steel valley never recovered, it reminds me of Eastern Europe. When I read the likes of Beowulf, I understand they have never been in an economy that is so depressed that there are no jobs.

All of the most employable workers are working at Wal-Mart and the likes. Before Reagan you had thousands of high paying jobs that supported everybody to the middle class life style.

All the high school kids had good paying jobs because there was no one other than high school kids to work retail, fast food and service jobs. Now all of the best workers are doing those menial jobs . And you have a whole generation growing up, not knowing how to work.

[/quote]

The unions have screwed themselves in this country.

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
I grew up poor and I can tell from first-hand experience, that most people who are poor in America deserve it. They don’t bother to graduate from high school, get pregnant at 17 (or younger), or smoke dope…then bitch because life is so ‘unfair’. Is it? Is it really?

NE Ohio has a lot of people who’d rather sit and collect welfare than move to where jobs are. “I can’t relocate! I’d miss my mom!!” Okay, then be unemployed and quit complaining about it.

A lot of inner city kids here never graduate from high school. Cleveland has a rate of 33%. Some of the girls have 2 babies by the time they are 18. The boys hold a job for 2 weeks and then complain because they didn’t get promoted.

Life’s unfair? Yeah…[/quote]

Exactly - Most poverty in America is self inflicted. If you finish high school and wait until you are married before having kids then the chances of poverty are drastically reduced. Even among black families.

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There is plenty of opportunity in this country. While there are a few unlucky sods who just get dealt a shit hand, most people choose to be lazy and uneducated.

Those fat bitches in the picture aren’t fat because they can’t afford good food…They’re fat because they eat to damn much and sit on there lazy fucking asses waiting for the next hand out. From the looks of it they look like fence jumpers who are sponging off of a system that doesn’t even belong to them. They obviously jumped that fence a loooong time ago.

You want poverty, go to Darfur where there is no hope, the women get raped regularly. Where there is a wacky, psycho, islamofacist nut job president of Sudan competing with the militias on who gets to genocide those people. That is real poverty. Those fat ho’s can live off their stores for a while…No sympathy from me.

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People come into my store, cash an unemployment check, and use the money to buy alcohol and lottery tickets. It makes me sad when I see their kids out in their car dressed in rags too.

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
pittbulll wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
I grew up poor and I can tell from first-hand experience, that most people who are poor in America deserve it. They don’t bother to graduate from high school, get pregnant at 17 (or younger), or smoke dope…then bitch because life is so ‘unfair’. Is it? Is it really?

NE Ohio has a lot of people who’d rather sit and collect welfare than move to where jobs are. “I can’t relocate! I’d miss my mom!!” Okay, then be unemployed and quit complaining about it.

A lot of inner city kids here never graduate from high school. Cleveland has a rate of 33%. Some of the girls have 2 babies by the time they are 18. The boys hold a job for 2 weeks and then complain because they didn’t get promoted.

Life’s unfair? Yeah…

I would not totally agree with you on NE Ohio, Reagan F–ked all the unions in the 80�??s. Most of the steel mills went out of business because Reagan opened the door to steel imports. Other Countries were dumping steel on America�??s shore cheaper than we could make it.

But the whole steel valley never recovered, it reminds me of Eastern Europe. When I read the likes of Beowulf, I understand they have never been in an economy that is so depressed that there are no jobs. All of the most employable workers are working at Wal-Mart and the likes.

Before Reagan you had thousands of high paying jobs that supported everybody to the middle class life style. All the high school kids had good paying jobs because there was no one other than high school kids to work retail, fast food and service jobs. Now all of the best workers are doing those menial jobs . And you have a whole generation growing up, not knowing how to work.

It’s sad when politicians get involved with the economy. But it’s one thing that should be factored into the equation.

Barack is probably going to be President. He will harm capital spending in favor of the ‘poor and deserving’, which will wind up making more people poor. The thing to do then is: how can we make ourselves immune to that personally?

Since there will be more poverty and crime, move to places where those with money will flee to escape the accompanying crime and violence. Small resort towns like Traverse City, MI (one of my favorite vacation haunts) would be ideal. A gradual increase in population will cause mini-booms in those areas.

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I hate to admit it because I truly believe that education is one of the best things a person can do to better themselves, but I think the best thing a person can do from an economically depressed area is flee.

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[quote]pat wrote:
There is plenty of opportunity in this country. While there are a few unlucky sods who just get dealt a shit hand, most people choose to be lazy and uneducated.

Those fat bitches in the picture aren’t fat because they can’t afford good food…They’re fat because they eat to damn much and sit on there lazy fucking asses waiting for the next hand out. From the looks of it they look like fence jumpers who are sponging off of a system that doesn’t even belong to them. They obviously jumped that fence a loooong time ago.

You want poverty, go to Darfur where there is no hope, the women get raped regularly. Where there is a wacky, psycho, islamofacist nut job president of Sudan competing with the militias on who gets to genocide those people. That is real poverty. Those fat ho’s can live off their stores for a while…No sympathy from me.[/quote]

You are probably right to a degree that the people in that picture do lack motivation, they probably watch too much TV and eat too much of the wrong food. But they probably do not know better. What do you do in a town of 10,000 workers when there are 9,000 jobs we are not even talking about school kids working after school and week ends. Then the next town is just like that but worst and so on and on you go until you are out of the geographical location.