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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Quick Ben wrote:
You constantly make that claim that you weren’t going to “chime in,” and hide behind what “many people” think. Yet here you are as always, posting away in just about every thread he’s in, with the standard disclaimer that you’re not REALLY interested. Have the balls to speak plainly. If discussion with the dentist is meaningless, then I can only conclude you’re in here to bolster your own perceived authority on the site. PX is an odd duck for sure, and has turned this forum thing is to some kind of religion, but he’s not wrong about people ganging up on him lately.

The vast majority of posters and readers on this site are not higher caliber than they ever were. It’s the same thing, only now there are a few more “coaches” around trying to make a buck off of the clueless masses. I’m not too concerned with anyone in that business losing respect for me.

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Once again, good post.

Stu responded several times in this thread each time to say how much he doesn’t care.

The first time was to say he wouldn’t respond again.

He seems to be upset that an actual discussion took place.

I appreciate TC responding.

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What discussion took place? This whole thread was you telling people to eat more to gain muscle. Wow, that’s really revolutionary, doctor. I grow tired of you constantly stating that you never insult anyone followed by insulting everyone.

So, let me get this straight? If anyone tells you that they don’t feel as if you’ve mad much progress in the past few years (which is a fair assumption, considering that you don’t look much different) they are insulting you. To hell with their honest opinions. However, if you flat-out state that you consider Whiteflash “really average” and not a serious lifter, that’s just giving your opinion, which apparently is now fact. That sounds fair.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
I will drop weight for Spring for sure, but with a goal of getting leaner than I was before…no care at all about ‘contest shape’.[/quote]

Are you going to keep a log on here? What kind of approach are you planning on taking?

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[quote]super saiyan wrote:

You forgot to address the part about you being an asshole. Asking people if they need you to write it out in crayon or repeat what you said has nothing to do with your education. You are always sarcastic, condescending, and dismissive. Nobody dislikes you for for having a medical/dental background.[/quote]

Oh, then let me clear that up for you.

I am an asshole. I am sarcastic. I am not trying to be your friend and personally haven’t seen anything written by you that deserves more attention than a light fart in open air.

I will tell you what I think if asked.

Make no mistake about it, being super polite to you for the sake of making you feel more flowery is not my concern or goal.

I am here to discuss weight lifting with other serious lifters.

Posters like bluecollartrain and mattyxl are serious lifters.

Therefore, I do not care what non-serious lifters or people who have not made much progress in several years think about my training or my delivery.

Hope that clears it all up for you.

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[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I will drop weight for Spring for sure, but with a goal of getting leaner than I was before…no care at all about ‘contest shape’.[/quote]

Are you going to keep a log on here? What kind of approach are you planning on taking?[/quote]

I probably will. I will do what I did last time, no cardio but move to twice a day training with lighter rest periods between sets.

Drinking something like MAG-10 throughout with a large decrease in carbs and even meal frequency. I was eating twice a day last time on average with no special attention to diet aside from not eating to “being full”. My metabolism is pretty fast especially with the decreased rest.

That added conditioning made all of the difference last time.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]super saiyan wrote:

You forgot to address the part about you being an asshole. Asking people if they need you to write it out in crayon or repeat what you said has nothing to do with your education. You are always sarcastic, condescending, and dismissive. Nobody dislikes you for for having a medical/dental background.[/quote]

Oh, then let me clear that up for you.

I am an asshole. I am sarcastic. I am not trying to be your friend and personally haven’t seen anything written by you that deserves more attention than a light fart in open air.

I will tell you what I think if asked.

Make no mistake about it, being super polite to you for the sake of making you feel more flowery is not my concern or goal.

I am here to discuss weight lifting with other serious lifters.

Posters like bluecollartrain and mattyxl are serious lifters.

Therefore, I do not care what non-serious lifters or people who have not made much progress in several years think about my training or my delivery.

Hope that clears it all up for you.[/quote]

Oh well forgive me for being confused because sometimes you pretend you are not an asshole and then proceed to blame everyone else for the shit-storm threads.

Thanks for finally admitting the truth.

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[quote]super saiyan wrote:

Oh well forgive me for being confused because sometimes you pretend you are not an asshole and then proceed to blame everyone else for the shit-storm threads.

Thanks for finally admitting the truth.
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Oh, the truth is that guys like you spend HOURS following me around to threads I created to do the same routine…insults and nonsense.

This thread is useful and has decent information in it…that is now clouded by the same people with the same goal…trolling.

It is what you do and who you are.

You agree with guys like Whiteflash who no one would mistake for a huge weight lifter…ever. Keep it up. I am sure you can keep all newbs from being infected with what I write if you keep trying.

Don’t give up. You know as well as I do that if you stop following me around, all of the bullshit will stop and people might learn something or feel more comfortable discussing how to get really big without the cries of “all roids”.

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[quote]super saiyan wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]super saiyan wrote:

You forgot to address the part about you being an asshole. Asking people if they need you to write it out in crayon or repeat what you said has nothing to do with your education. You are always sarcastic, condescending, and dismissive. Nobody dislikes you for for having a medical/dental background.[/quote]

Oh, then let me clear that up for you.

I am an asshole. I am sarcastic. I am not trying to be your friend and personally haven’t seen anything written by you that deserves more attention than a light fart in open air.

I will tell you what I think if asked.

Make no mistake about it, being super polite to you for the sake of making you feel more flowery is not my concern or goal.

I am here to discuss weight lifting with other serious lifters.

Posters like bluecollartrain and mattyxl are serious lifters.

Therefore, I do not care what non-serious lifters or people who have not made much progress in several years think about my training or my delivery.

Hope that clears it all up for you.[/quote]

Oh well forgive me for being confused because sometimes you pretend you are not an asshole and then proceed to blame everyone else for the shit-storm threads.

Thanks for finally admitting the truth.
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It only took him ten years.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

Once again, good post.

Stu responded several times in this thread each time to say how much he doesn’t care.

The first time was to say he wouldn’t respond again.

He seems to be upset that an actual discussion took place.

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yeah, my bad,… I did try really hard not to care though, but I guess my loyalty to this site(while I admittedly frequent other ones daily), just makes me a bit more invested in how the forums here are going. I’ll try harder not to get involved next time.

I must have missed the discussion that took place somehow. I saw you waffle a bit when people couldn’t tell what you were actually saying for a few pages, despite your newfound ability to attach an image to each reply, and then 30+ pages later you tried saying that it wasn’t really a thread about eating frequency at all, but about commitment, or something like that, I got a little confused. Certainly cutting edge stuff doc.

But please, go back to making plays on my name, or quoting previous replies with “please respond” while you continue ignoring other people’s similar requests on a daily basis.

And for Quick Ben’s comment about my hiding behind “many people”,… I guess it’s me just trying not to come out and wholeheartedly dismiss one single guy. True I’ve formulated my opinion of him over a good number of years, but I really do think he’s had some great experiences to share from. As a teacher, I always try to find some redeeming value in everyone, or hold hope that a student can somehow turnaround certain patterns of behavior or performance. It never erases previous events, but still, the future is always unwritten.

As to the caliber of posters on here; when I came on this site over a decade ago, I don’t recall too many RDs, CSCSs, or competitors sharing right along with newbs and average gym rats. Sure some of my personal favs have departed, but for a while there, I really felt like we had the original “intelligent pursuit of muscle” tagline dead on.

I don’t hide the fact that I go to another site to discuss training with serious competitors, but I like to think that my continued presence here isn’t viewed as an attempt to “make a buck off of the clueless masses.” Was I supposed to leave the site once I started making a name for myself as a competitor? As a judge? As a coach?

S

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Super Saiyan will never get very big or strong ever. In fact, I know he will quit lifting once life gets tough and he has to deal with raising a family, going through financial troubles, getting a high level of graduate education, and running a successful business. He also is not funny.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]super saiyan wrote:

Oh well forgive me for being confused because sometimes you pretend you are not an asshole and then proceed to blame everyone else for the shit-storm threads.

Thanks for finally admitting the truth.
[/quote]

Oh, the truth is that guys like you spend HOURS following me around to threads I created to do the same routine…insults and nonsense.

This thread is useful and has decent information in it…that is now clouded by the same people with the same goal…trolling.

It is what you do and who you are.

You agree with guys like Whiteflash who no one would mistake for a huge weight lifter…ever. Keep it up. I am sure you can keep all newbs from being infected with what I write if you keep trying.

Don’t give up. You know as well as I do that if you stop following me around, all of the bullshit will stop and people might learn something or feel more comfortable discussing how to get really big without the cries of “all roids”.[/quote]

LOL. I’m not the one with 50,000 posts. You spend way more time on here than I do in your sad attempt to maintain this pathetic e-persona. You’re like one of the dedicated World of Warcraft guys, except you don’t even have a super duper cool character to show off for all your wasted hours. You’re just a dick known as Professor X.

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[quote]browndisaster wrote:
Super Saiyan will never get very big or strong ever. In fact, I know he will quit lifting once life gets tough and he has to deal with raising a family, going through financial troubles, getting a high level of graduate education, and running a successful business. He also is not funny.[/quote]

There is only one man on the internet who has ever had the dedication to continue lifting while going to school or working in a serious profession - our beloved Professor X.

May his days be many and his lunges few. May all “progress” descend upon him. May the post-workout drink in his nalgene bottle be potent. May he find hammer strength machines wherever he roams.

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Prof u seem so unhappy that these boards dont have enough serious lifters to talk to. why dont you post else where? lol

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Wow

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So much negative energy…

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[quote]super saiyan wrote:

[quote]browndisaster wrote:
Super Saiyan will never get very big or strong ever. In fact, I know he will quit lifting once life gets tough and he has to deal with raising a family, going through financial troubles, getting a high level of graduate education, and running a successful business. He also is not funny.[/quote]

There is only one man on the internet who has ever had the dedication to continue lifting while going to school or working in a serious profession - our beloved Professor X.

May his days be many and his lunges few. May all “progress” descend upon him. May the post-workout drink in his nalgene bottle be potent. May he find hammer strength machines wherever he roams.[/quote]

You’re a funny dude, saiyan, good physique too. Why does it bother you so much that this guy in particular is an asshole? To me that is pretty irrelevant. I see retarded claims on these forums all the time, like the 495 inclines for 6-15 lollacoster, but I don’t get UPSET about it. Much like the skinny 45 year old dude in the gym a few weeks ago that was telling me about how he used to bench 405, I just think “sure you did”, and get on with my day.

I read PX’s posts because whether he succeeds or fails at what he is trying to do, looking at how he’s doing is useful to me. He has a good knowledge base and a dedicated approach, and I can draw conclusions from watching how he does. His personality doesn’t really enter into it. This is what grown men do, you understand, they take what’s useful and leave the rest for the crows. Children argue… “no uh, yeah so, bla bla”… like someone came in here and claimed Spiderman could beat up the Hulk or something. PX argues like a 5 year old too, I would never bother debating him. I watched Bonez chew him up and spit him out, only to have PX declare himself the winner and go on posting. So what? Take what’s useful, apply it to your training, move on. PX is also very helpful one on one, and get this: when I PM’d him a couple years back for advice, he told me to check the fat gain. There was no mention of cheeseburgers at all, to my recollection.

The thread started of kind of vague, like the OP just wanted to blog about his experiences, which was probably a bad idea seeing as how he has so little good will on the forums these days. However it quickly DID turn into that insulin debate, and TC did post, so it turned out pretty well anyhow. The personal grudge matches didn’t add much though, did they…

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X, I think you’ll be far better served by taking more calculated approach with your cut this Spring rather than an arbitrary, non-specific approach like “eating more” or “eating less” of something. I put those in quotes because although those approaches can for sure work, they are still somewhat haphazard and as hardcore as you are with gaining, I think it would be in your best interest to take a hardcore approach with fat loss. I mean, you’ve invested serious time, emotion, and physical and mental energy into this.

Ever think of just trying a baseline sort of thing and see where it goes, say to start off a cut, being you don’t have much of a baseline because you don’t count macros or kcals, you could lose for quite sometime with a simple approach involving 1.25 to 1.5 grams of protein per pound, 1 gram of carbs per pound, and 0.25 grams of fat per pound and doing some near daily cardio. You can really see some rapid and continuous progress with that sort of approach rather than doubling your weight training sessions and sipping on protein powder all day and just winging other nutrition related stuff.

What are you doing for legs now? I know you’re concerned with gaining more mass. I think you can actually do that if you tap into the growth possibly reserved in your lower body. Judging from the Colorado vids, I think if you loosened up your lower body with some mobility and glute activation drills and really hammered stuff like leg presses or squats or hack squats, stiff legged deadlifts, and hyperextensions you’d see some serious changes. When did you stop doing squats? I’m not saying they’re for everybody’s bodybuilding endeavors (quite a few bodybuilders made freaky progress after dropping squats), but I remember you saying, if I have it correctly, that you dropped them after a certain poundage.

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Quick Ben:

I don’t have malicious intent towards anyone except for… oh… say… five people who have thoroughly ----ed me over in life, far worse than internet shenanigans, and for whom retaliation is impossible because I wish to remain a free man.

I think what happens with me is that I enjoy not only lifting but the entire subculture of fitness and all the shenanigans that go along with it: internet gossip, grown men acting like kids, and the odd habits. It can be quite entertaining, stories of men consuming 8,000 to 10,000 calories per day; men mortgaging their whole lives and health on an endeavor that gives practically nothing in return; people doing all sorts of unsavory things to pay the bills (G4P), and so on.

Can me being entertained by all of this be considered infantile? I think so. But look, at the end of the day, this is a damn hobby or a passion for us, or whatever you want to call it. So if I ask X, “What be your macro breakdown?”, yeah, perhaps I’m guilty of horsing around, but as I said, it’s not like I have malicious intent or am not open to having serious conversation about nutrition or training with anyone on here, X included. I actually do not dislike anyone here, including him, because I don’t know anyone (aside from two real life friends I have from here) and, once again, this is a hobby that involves lifting and eating, not exactly something I can take so seriously that I have it out for some guy because he does things with his food intake that I wouldn’t do.

I actually think X came across as a likable guy in the Colorado videos, which largely surprised me considering he can be so callous on here sometimes. I’ve gotten wrongfully snappy on here and nearly all the time felt very stupid and sorry afterwards.

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PX: Re: Whiteflash’s seriousness as a weight lifter.

315 x 2 and 405 for reps at 185 pounds bodyweight IS serious.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Simply put, if you can’t tell if any progress has been made in any of my pictures over the years, your opinion does not matter to me.[/quote]

That “any” crap which I never said… According the pics: 2001 damage control pic in the backyard, then big and fat powerlifter for a decade, then damage control in that last pic. That’s how I see it. And maybe I’m wrong. But looking at how you fear any loss of size for so long, I’d wager that I’m probably right. How much muscle you’ve gained since, say, 2007 is a complete mystery to anyone looking at those shots. Blame yourself for not having decent pics. I’ve got nothing to do with it.

If you keep saying you’re making progress, but the pics look too similar to tell, what do you expect to hear? Take better pics or stop boasting about the 3lbs(or whatever) per year. Which, btw, if you did gain at that rate would only become visible in better condition anyway. With your bf, you wouldn’t even be able to tell yourself how much of that is muscle. That’s a huge part of why people who gain muscle for aesthetic purposes prefer to keep it aesthetic.

Don’t like it? Stop trying to “educate” people who’s goals are drastically different from yours. Push an agenda, and you open the gates to being criticized. That’s just how it works.

Of course you can always just get lean. But since you want to reserve that until your 40’s, I hope you take proper pics of this new ‘progress’ you’re currently embarking on. Don’t expect praise or applause two years from now, for another “tanktop with extended arms holding the camera” mirror shot.