Gal Gadot is really the only reason to watch a movie like that.
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I watched a movie a couple of days ago but forgot what I watched the next day. Then I remembered what it was yesterday. Now I’ve forgotten what it was again.
Anyway, @flappinit I tried watching Dune up till the part where Oscar Isaac says, “all I ever needed you to be was my son” and turned it off. It’s NOT a bad movie. It’s pretty well made but it’s the kind of sci-fi I generally avoid because my mind just goes blank when there’s a lot of “world building” with tribes and planets with funny names along with politics involved.
Does it get “better” for casual viewers like me after that? Like big explosions and shit lol?
Probably Unforgettable with Rosario Dawson. It’s as much forgetable as it is Unforgettable.
Oh I won’t be forgetting her.
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I watched it on Netflix this weekend and had a similar reaction. Despite three charismatic actors and a sufficiently interesting plot, the movie was surprisingly dull.
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Watched Halloween kills
It was suprisingly a stark improvement over its predecessor
Was it a great movie? No; it was boring… But the cinematography was on point and they seriously upped the ante on the graphic violence.
Easily the goriest Halloween film aside from the Rob Zombie remakes which imo were gross for the sake of being gross.
Rob Zombies Halloween films, particularly the sequel weren’t tolerable if we take into account mainstream audiences.
It pushed the envelope as far as it could possibly be pushed in terms of “what can be shown in cinemas on a mass scale”.
This new film “Halloween kills” doesn’t push that envelope. Anyone who is okay with horror films should be okay with this, those who aren’t okay with horror films won’t be okay with this.
For Rob Zombies Halloween films you’d have to be okay with films like hostel, Eden lake, High tension and martyrs to be okay with Halloween/Halloween II; thus severely limiting the audience as to who will or won’t watch it.
It wasn’t the traditional “Friday the 13th, TCM, nightmare on elm Street or Halloween film”. It was something else, it was a brutal, bloody, depressing and thematically disturbing film… Esp the sequel.
However the rating descriptor for both of his films serves as enough of a warning to ward most off.
I saw “The Founder” earlier this week. Michael Keaton played Ray Kroc, and the flick traced his beginnings in the building of the McDonalds’ empire. It was filmed here in Georgia, and is one I definitely recommend.
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Watched After Life. Really enjoyed it. Very…calm movie, and the vibe of it was just enjoyable. The concept was interesting - there’s no heaven or hell when you die, you just get a film made recreating your favorite life memory and spend eternity watching that memory play over and over again. (Your other memories disappear.) This sounds like it could become hellish. I’d never be able to pick one memory from my entire life.
Also watched Scream and Halloween last night. I’d never seen either of them before. I was cracking up the whole time, haha.
old halloween (1978)? The film that unfortunately popularised the slasher genre.
There have been a few good slashers (nightmare on elm street, child’s play, Halloween, Scream, original TCM)… that’s about it… there are thousands of TERRIBLE slasher films
Yeah, original. I’m not a fan of gore and violence just for the sake of being shocking, but those old movies are cheesy enough that they’re funny.
The problem is he sucks at filmmaking. BIG TIME. Eden Lake and Martyrs were pretty damn well made despite some really horrific shit in them. If you want to see how easy it would have been to fuck up a movie like Martyrs when the director sucks, go watch the remake. Even Eli Roth managed to pull off Hostel pretty decently.
I’ve not seen one single Rob Zombie film in the last 20 years which indicates he knows how to make a proper movie other than the first Halloween remake and I think there was quite a bit of studio interference or at least a very skilled crew at his disposal for his Halloween movies which is why they didn’t suck that bad. In fact, he seems to be regressing.
Look at his indie movies:
House of 1,000 Corpses (2003):
All right, not bad for a first timer.
The Devil’s Rejects:
Still noobish but the ending kinda saved it although the scene last a little too long to maintain it’s impact.
Lords of Salem (2012):
Experimental noob shit.
3 From Hell (2019):
Noob shit.
I actually liked his first Halloween remake more than the newer ones because of the blood and violence and Danielle Harris (Hatchet 2 and the rest of the series) was in it and Ken Foree (Dawn of the Dead) got killed while taking a dump LMAO. But then, I’ve never liked slashers without any blood and gore. IIRC Danny Trejo was in it somewhere at the start. Part 2 went full retard.
Danielle Harris actually played Jamie Lee Curtis’s character’s daughter in the original series but I can’t even remember what happened in any of them. All I know is that she was HOT AS FUCK in Hatchet 2 and Halloween remake.
And even the first Halloween remake wasn’t the first to retcon all the other sequels since it had it’s OWN retarded sequel which wouldn’t have led to the events after the original movie in the series. H20 was the one that did since the lead was supposed to have died in Halloween 4 which was why Michael was going after her daughter.
Never saw the hatchet films.
Are you sure? Just before dawn wasn’t bad
No gore doesn’t == PG. Most slasher films cover thematic elements that aren’t appropriate for PG/PG-13 dynamics
The town that dreaded sundown (old), black christmas (old)
The original TCM had no graphic, on screen gore… Though it did contain graphic violence.
I prefer when movies leave more to the imagination. I think it’s more effective when Leatherface cuts someone up with a chainsaw entirely off screen, but you can see the movements of the chainsaw and it’s very obvious what is going on.
It’s twisted and unsettling. Leaving it to the imagination leaves you wondering/thinking about what horrors low below the screens view.
They (from Part 2 onwards at least) were full of blood and gore but never went down to the level of level of those self-aware movies that need to keep reminding you that this is all played for laughs like Zombieland. (I’m not saying Zombieland was a bad movie. It worked because of the acting and focus on characters. I’m talking about movies like it which feature over-the-top blood and gore turn into fucking farces like Scouts Guide to the Zombie Apocalypse.)
The Hatchet movies were fucked up to the point where a character gets his lower body torn away and then his entire upper body flayed with one hard pull on the loose skin from his severed torso in one fluid motion while he’s still alive because the killer has super strength LMAO. That scene would NOT be funny to non-gore hounds because it’s done so well you’d be too disgusted to see the hilarity in it due the fact that it would be fucking impossible to do shit like this.
Tony Todd (original Candyman) was actually fucking seriously ACTING his ass off at least in one scene in Hatchet 2. That’s why I love him. Danielle Harris also took the movie seriously and did some good acting in them. This is why Kill Bill part 1 worked during the violent scenes. That’s why they aren’t like those shitty self-aware gore flicks these days. They even got the director of the original Fright Night to play one of the secondary characters LMAO.
I’ve seen clips from hatchet and hatchet 2. From what I could see, the film’s were horror comedies (like scream). Albeit they’re very gory, most wouldn’t enjoy them because they’re gross… But the gross out gore is comedic in the manner dead alive is funny (directed by Peter Jackson btw) despite being one of the goriest films ever made… I’m not going to link that lawnmower scene because it is VERY graphic however from watching it you can see it isn’t meant to be taken seriously.
The same goes for graphic violence in films like the evil dead or bad taste. Bad taste is a movie about aliens inhabiting earth to create a intergalactic fast food chain where humans serve as food… It’s really gross, but quite funny if you can get past all the gross out scenes. It is, quite literally in “bad taste”, and you’ll lose brain cells watching this.
Neither are to be taken seriously. It’s gross out humour to the max, if you’re okay with that… Great! I’m okay with it in the manner that I can watch without feeling sick, but I’m not a fan of it. I have doctors in my immediate and extended family, the surgery videos (sometimes them performing surgery) they’d show me as a kid were far worse.
Look at the genre
“Horror, comedy”
Gore doesn’t phase me, gore never particularly phased me. What does phase me is when a victim (subject to violence, emotional neglect or bullying) is visibly suffering in a manner that is realistic and drawn out. @brickhead mentioned kids a couple weeks back… films like kids, mysterious skin, the heart is deceitful among all things, thirteen, the panic in needle park and Requiem for a dream… These films really got to me despite being relatively free of graphic violence for the most part (actually kids is the exception there).
These are the types of films that will make me feel physically ill while watching. Sometimes I’ll even have to pause, take a break to process what I’m watching then continue watching.
Even then, it doesn’t keep me up at night. If I see something that really upsets me I’ll talk to someone about it who I can trust; they’ll say “why did you watch that movie… Idiot!” And I’ll try to stop thinking about what I’ve just seen.
I don’t watch a lot of movies anymore. During our harsh lockdowns over the majority of the past 18 months TV was a good friend of mine. I saw all sorts of movies and some (as you can see above) were very upsetting/disturbing to watch. Not to say they’re bad films, but the subject matter and content contained within is stomach churning yet simultaneously thought provoking.
Edit: it appears bad taste was also directed by Peter Jackson… So the guy who directed the Lord of the rings trilogy… Also made a film about aliens setting up a fast food restaurant in New Zeland… that serves humans… And arguably the wackiest, bloodiest zombie film ever made
I actually believe that lawnmower scene broke the RECORD for “most fake blood used in a single scene”… And I believe that record stands to this day despite the film having been released in 1992. I could be wrong though… Perhaps the evil dead remake might have broken that record?
I’ve linked the green band trailer for bad taste. The red band one (at the start) shows a guy using another person’s head as a bowl for soup… So I didn’t link that
That’s why the one man starts running away at the start of the trailer, he stumbles upon this. The green band trailer just shows the dude walking, then it abruptly cuts away and the running starts.
As you can see… Quality film making… Oscar calibre material!
Kill Bill’s “Showdown at the House of Blue Leaves” with the Crazy 88 would be a contender, no?
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Haven’t seen Just Before Dawn.
I watched TCM when I was 11. Of course it was scary to me lol. But later I watched it to analyse the film technique like that low camera ass shot that the remake paid tribute to by doing it in the exact same manner.
What I meant was slashers which are made for the sake of being slashers don’t interest me unless there’s lots of violence in the form of creative kills in them or they’re so bad they’re good. Normal ones would need to have really interesting plots and made skilfully enough to retain my attention like Scream 1 and 3. There are very few of them. Inside wasn’t bad but I don’t remember anything about it. I didn’t like High Tension as a movie but I did appreciate how they managed to continuously escalate events organically. At least that’s what I think I did since I can’t recall single thing in the movie today. The Strangers 2 fucked itself up with a stupid plot but I liked a lot of technical stuff in it.
Yes, but kill bill is darker than the film’s I’ve mentioned above
The crazy 88 scene may come across as being oddly comedic, and the film is arguably a black comedy, action thriller… However the scene pays homage to old grindhouse cinema/samarai films in the 70’s and 80’s when the blood and gore started becoming rampant.
You can actually find old, grindhouse era samarai flicks like shogun assassin that were far gorier than kill bill. MPAA/general film censors started cracking down on graphic content in the 1990’s, and they’ve continued to do so ever since. While it may be easier for the young to access R rated titles, R rated titles today aren’t typically quite as graphic relative to what many R rated films could show back in the day, same goes with pg-13… Watch “the wraith” for reference… That’s pg-13, would be slapped with an instant R for many reasons if it were released today.
Kill bill was modelled after the following
- grindhouse cinema
- samarai films of the 70’s/80’s like shogun assassin
- spaghetti westerns
However the idea for kill bill purportedly sprung from “thriller: a cruel picture”.
The film itself (thriller) is laughably bad due to how unrealistic it is/how drawn out some of the action sequences are… Though it’s also a film encompassing very sombre subject matter. Unintentionally bad, but not really a film you can laugh with while watching due to the subject matter.
It’s about a mute/deaf girl (mediated by trauma) who is forcibly hooked on heroin and sold into prostitution… However 1-2 days/wk she has time to herself.
Over a long period of time she saves up the tiny share of her earnings she is allocated. She learns self defence, how to shoot, fight and drive fast… She procures weaponry, a car… And quite a bit of heroin… for the trip she takes and goes after those who have taken everything for her.
The film has an alternate name “they call her one eye”… Because there is one infamous scene wherein the main character has an eye taken from her.
The film is somewhat reminiscent of kill bill, albeit it’s a crap film, it’s low budget and far more graphic (it’s grindhouse). It’s an exploitation film (thriller), its meaningless dreck that serves no purpose.
If anyone is to watch it, which I don’t recommend as it’s an awful movie. I’d suggest watching the US version. US version is cut by 15-20 minutes.
One character literally did lol.
I remember watching Brain Dead and admiring both the copious and effective use of wide angle lenses and thinking this director will go pretty far. That’s how I watch movies sometimes lol. I was such a fan of Peter Jackson I ordered Heavenly Creatures on VHS online back when fuckers would sell them at $34.99USD and shipping costs to where I live were like $10 or more IIRC. They didn’t screen it here because it was such a small movie and we had like one arthouse theater which was screening Meet Joe Black for some fucking reason and no one even wanted to pirate it on vcds. Fuck, The Frighteners actually upset me because it was so mediocre compared to what Peter Jackson can do.
What’s interesting is that I saw one of my favorite movies, Takashi Ishii’s Black Angel in one of those sleazy theaters where you had to check if there was cum on the seats that only screened sex or R-rated flicks lol.
Yeah, it works because the comedy is kept separated from the horror and it’s mostly deadpan stuff. There’s an ongoing joke where the same Chinese actor keeps appearing in all the movies playing a different character. He gets killed in every one of them. In part 3, he plays a paramedic picking up the bodies after the bloodbath in part 2.
Another paramedic sees the body of his character from the previous movie and tells his character in this movie that the victim looks just like him and the dude goes something like, “Oh, I see. We all look the same to you, don’t we?”
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Actually, I think the paramedic may have said 2 of the dead guys look like him since each movie starts immediately after the last one ended and they take place over a period of like 2 days and the characters return to, and get killed at the same location.
I think Kill Bill is kinda like the John Wick movies. The violence in movies like these are a natural progression of slapstick comedy, which is why if you try to make these scenes funny, they end up working against you because slapstick only works when characters actually look like they’re in pain. Which isn’t the same as making them purposefully over-the-top. I watched the unrated version of Kill Bill 1 and lmao-ed at the deleted scene where the translator chick gets her other arm cut off in the trunk right before she’s rolling down the hill towards the hospital.
To further illustrate my point, just watch any old Jackie Chan movie like Project A. They’re comedies but the amount of physical trauma the stuntmen endure is what makes them work. And when Jackie gets punched in the nose, he ALWAYS bleeds. Just like John Wick who always ends up getting severely injured. The elements of pain and real consequences (in the context of cinematic realism) have to be there.
I tapped out after book 2. I actually enjoyed it but Herbert’s writing style is not engaging at all, and I completely lost interest after the ending of book 2. Didn’t even try starting Children of Dune. The first book was pretty awesome though, even despite the terrible (IMO) writing.