Deliberateā¦ like youāre a failed grunt or something
I think an issue is that itās a business. Gym owners need members, or at least memberships, so they need to attract as many people as they can. If they just focused on hardcore trainers, that limited market might not provide enough members to stay in business. I mean, it seems like Planet Fitness makes an effort to keep the hardcore from wanting to join so it doesnāt see that demographic as particularly valuable.
I do understand the conundrum here, but these geeks are out of control. I swear every new member at our gym has stated the phone shit is exactly why they left their last gym
Good lord no.
I thought you were calling me a cunt.
For the record working in, discussing sets, being generally respectful of others in a shared space et cetera is the polite thing to do, and has been the norm until very recently.
Conversely hogging equipment, getting lost on social media wormholes, videos and games and generally being selfishly unaware of others is rude.
Gently asking how many sets are left, or even to work in during rests (especially on pin selectors not requiring plate change-ups) is polite conversation, and inclusive. Even if they run off and cry about it. Theyāre not the victim.
Oh and people who use equipment as shelves. If theyāre obviously nearby Iāll ask once to be nice for them to please move their stuff so I can use the equipment. If I canāt tell whose it is, itās on the ground. Am I being the bully?
FTR my current gym doesnāt have these problems. But commercial gyms prior were wild.
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I already do, but I do it because the world needs more Batmanās.
Youāve seen my post history. Iāve openly admitted to being the ābad guyā if it helps motivate them. Not everyone responds to this, which is why Iām not like this all the time.
Gyms only make money because the majority of their members dont use it frequently.
Talk to me on Jan 15th about how wrong it is to expedite the exit of those who were going to quit anyways.
I have a handful of clients that ive helped lose weight. Between 5 of them - 140lbs total.
Nice bait, Z boi
Itās true. A buddy of mine owns a few gyms and somewhere around 90% of his revenue come from people who check in fewer than 10x per year. Maybe 70%, itās been a while since he told me but it was a wild number.
He also cultivates culture through management. His approach is commercial vs specialized so itās not exactly an old school Mecca, but designated racks and platforms are for squats and pulls with posted rules and enforcement, and locker use is required with one bottle allowed on the floor.
He gets flack for not allowing gym bags but more people in his market donāt use them than do.
If anything, people learn what gym etiquette is. And how gay curling in squat racks is. Nobody actively enforces cell phones or working in, and members are left to self manage here, but the overall tone is set.
Be respectful, share the space and grow together.
Outright bullying to my knowledge isnāt acceptable but nudging someone off a rack who isnāt squatting will be supported by management.
Guy does really well, so itās working.
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I bullied a broccoli head when he didnt put his weights back after curing in the squat rack.
I can confirm that this person was lesser than me, and there were no consequences.
@EmilyQ question asked and answered.
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We, again, sort of agree but also donāt. And we also are in the psychology thread so Iām going to take stab.
We both dislike the lack of manners and decorum that create gym etiquette for obvious reasons.
My approach is practical. Sharing is caring and if someone doesnāt want to I see booting them as the high road. And a teachable moment, especially in the case of young lifters. Itās teachable either way, too. Look at us lifting together and trading off during rests! We can both get in and out, and maybe be better for it sharing tips and tricks. And motivation.
You see bullying as the go-to, and seem to see it from a superiority complex point of view more so than sharing the equipment and space appropriately.
I grew up playing sports, was not fat et cetera.
You self-admittedly are a former fatty and āreformedā nice guy.
There is a happy medium. And itās assertive with a constructive point to the assertion. I encourage you to find that.
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I think you just really relish playing the bad guy.
Youāre actually just a sweet 'lil pudding pop. 
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Playing is the operative word. If Brock Lesnar was taking a nap on a piece of equipment, he wouldnāt wake him up.
Not really, itās more like i said first:
- I ask how many sets they have left
2a. If more than 1, I ask to work in.
Theyre either cool with it, and i gained a buddy, or theyāre not but they say yes anyways, then they leave early.
2b. If 1, I tell them not to rush, and tell them Iām just going to hang out.
They literally always rush.
So ābullyingā is usually a strong term for what i do, but Iāve been told by a number of people i look like an asshole and come off intimidating.
I did actually bully the squat rack curler who left his weights behind, though.
I wasnt going to use itā¦ I was politely informing him he was a fuck knuckle and his mommy wasnt there to clean up after him.
Itās worth noting that these are all Californiansā¦ they need a little bullying. If harsh tone and being impositioned is as bad enough to be considered āmeanā, then whatever.
Iām thinking you are confusing bullying with being a Karen.
Neither would I. Id go into the locker room and rob him. Wallet, car keys, everything.
Then use his gps patterns to get to his house and rob that too.
All actors agree that the bad guy is more fun to play.
Like i said, im okay with being someoneās bad guy if it gets them where they need to go.
I needed a number of bad guys to get me there.
Iām also regularly the good guy 
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Well, I stand corrected. And itās a reformed version of past sentiment, which is great. IMO. As long as the goal is working in, and not bouncing out. Again, IMO.
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Youāre literally the most karen member of this board, lol.
If āwell ahcktualleeā was a person, itd be you.
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And we do agree without a but.
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So its not like when I baited the guy behind me into a chase by brake checking him, knowing full well that if he followed me far enough Iād murder him.
(Disclaimer: no, I wasnāt going to murder him. 
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