[quote]mmatt wrote:
Ah, that’s neat. So you were like pete, but actually good lololololol. I’m really digging The Faceless, Insomnium, and Upon a Burning Body right now.[/quote]
Haha, nah, from the few times we screwed around Pete’s a good player.
I’m working on my double thumb technique on guitar like so.
Jesus. H. Christ. I was literally laughing it is so ridiculous. You may have to start another log for your lifting though. This has become “DetAzathoth’s shred your face off” log.
hahaha, well I was a bass player before I was a guitarist, so the first time I heard AAL, I was like “this is so my band” because I never heard anyone else approach the guitar like that.
I look at my musicianship and my powerlifting with the same approach. I think there are deep parallels between the two, and I enjoy them both the same. A few of my powerlifting ideas actually came from my approach to music.
[quote]detazathoth wrote:
A few of my powerlifting ideas actually came from my approach to music.[/quote]
Care to elaborate on which ideas and why? That’s really interesting actually, and I would love to hear your response to that. Maybe I could get my brother into powerlifting, haha
[quote]inkaddict wrote:
Currently jamming some Revocation, and wow man…thanks for throwing that in here. [/quote]
Yeah, my old band and back when they were called Cryptic Warning use to be open for each other, so I crack open a smile whenever I see them in any of the Metal Magazines or Guitar Mags since I knew how good the guy was since I was like 14/15 years old and they were still seniors in high school.
[quote]detazathoth wrote:
A few of my powerlifting ideas actually came from my approach to music.[/quote]
Care to elaborate on which ideas and why? That’s really interesting actually, and I would love to hear your response to that. Maybe I could get my brother into powerlifting, haha[/quote]
Ha, well not necessarily anything related to training theory. I see music practice and practical training knowledge as the same. They both require a lot of technique, and where say a guitar has to practice their bar path on the big 3, it’s the equivalent to my alternate picking, finger picking, economy picking, sweep picking work. I learn that I should constantly practice technique on the big 3, and I got that idea from practicing technique on guitar because you can adequately express yourself better when you have more tools to be able so. Similarly with Powerlifting, I view meets as a showcase of strength, whereas with training, it’s fine tuning technique and building strength. The meet is just the vehicle of expression to show where your strength is, similar to a song or guitar solo.
I hope that was communicated well enough. It’s very ethereal and hard to explain haha
[quote]detazathoth wrote:
I hope that was communicated well enough. It’s very ethereal and hard to explain haha[/quote]
Makes perfect sense man, I gotcha. Thanks for explaining it like like that. It’s like anything (powerlifting), practice makes perfect, and I’m sure you could see parallels between it and anything else
[quote]detazathoth wrote:
I hope that was communicated well enough. It’s very ethereal and hard to explain haha[/quote]
Makes perfect sense man, I gotcha. Thanks for explaining it like like that. It’s like anything (powerlifting), practice makes perfect, and I’m sure you could see parallels between it and anything else[/quote]
Well that was the conceptual reason why I prefer doing Shieko and my personal style of training to be based on the periodization of the big lifts instead of doing special exercises to fix them. I think skill specificity is crucial to being a master of sport in powerlifting, and that goes likewise to being a virtuoso of an instrument, perfect practice makes perfect.
A lot of my guitar training routines are very dry, and mind numbing, but a simplified approach that’s based on technique, scales, chord inversions/voicings/ ear training, and metronome speed practice is my philosophy to becoming a great guitarist.
[quote]detazathoth wrote:
A lot of my guitar training routines are very dry, and mind numbing, but a simplified approach that’s based on technique, scales, chord inversions/voicings/ ear training, and metronome speed practice is my philosophy to becoming a great guitarist.[/quote]
So yes, your guitar training is identical to Sheiko then, great analogy.
[quote]detazathoth wrote:
A lot of my guitar training routines are very dry, and mind numbing, but a simplified approach that’s based on technique, scales, chord inversions/voicings/ ear training, and metronome speed practice is my philosophy to becoming a great guitarist.[/quote]
So yes, your guitar training is identical to Sheiko then, great analogy.[/quote]
Precisely. I’m sorry if that was annoying, but that I’m going to use that analogy to explain my approach from now on.
Thank you.
crosses fingers and hopes inkaadict still likes me
[quote]detazathoth wrote:
A lot of my guitar training routines are very dry, and mind numbing, but a simplified approach that’s based on technique, scales, chord inversions/voicings/ ear training, and metronome speed practice is my philosophy to becoming a great guitarist.[/quote]
So yes, your guitar training is identical to Sheiko then, great analogy.[/quote]
Precisely. I’m sorry if that was annoying, but that I’m going to use that analogy to explain my approach from now on.
Thank you.
crosses fingers and hopes inkaadict still likes me[/quote]
LOL, dude, no homo or anything but I <3 you right now, haha. I’ve been following Sheiko for a few months and love everything about it. Look forward to me bugging the shit out of you about it in the coming months.
I don’t play guitar, but my brother does which is where I’ve learned a lot about it and some amazing musicians, so I could discuss it all day.
Please write a song that would perfectly exemplify “Sheiko Metal”
[quote]detazathoth wrote:
A lot of my guitar training routines are very dry, and mind numbing, but a simplified approach that’s based on technique, scales, chord inversions/voicings/ ear training, and metronome speed practice is my philosophy to becoming a great guitarist.[/quote]
So yes, your guitar training is identical to Sheiko then, great analogy.[/quote]
Precisely. I’m sorry if that was annoying, but that I’m going to use that analogy to explain my approach from now on.
Thank you.
crosses fingers and hopes inkaadict still likes me[/quote]
LOL, dude, no homo or anything but I <3 you right now, haha. I’ve been following Sheiko for a few months and love everything about it. Look forward to me bugging the shit out of you about it in the coming months.
I don’t play guitar, but my brother does which is where I’ve learned a lot about it and some amazing musicians, so I could discuss it all day.
Please write a song that would perfectly exemplify “Sheiko Metal”
kthx[/quote]
Haha, I appreciate the bro love. Although I don’t think I’ll be using Sheiko for much longer as Stronghold and I have been talking about the next meet training cycle for my USAPL debut in March. I’ll definitely will answer questions about Sheiko since I think I know the system pretty well.
As for Sheiko Metal, I think these two songs are perfect examples of it.
Meshuggah was playing on the “Snickers” Stage. For some reason that made me laugh. I like the Sheiko/Guitar analogy. In the end, it was the lack of practice in the big 3 that made me stop Westside. My box squat & floor press were getting much better, but when i went back to the full ROM lifts, they felt ackward and my numbers sucked (they were never great though).
Also, lifting beltless is very humbling. You sir, are a monster.
[quote]BlueLineCretin wrote:
Meshuggah was playing on the “Snickers” Stage. For some reason that made me laugh. I like the Sheiko/Guitar analogy. In the end, it was the lack of practice in the big 3 that made me stop Westside. My box squat & floor press were getting much better, but when i went back to the full ROM lifts, they felt ackward and my numbers sucked (they were never great though).
Also, lifting beltless is very humbling. You sir, are a monster. [/quote]
Well, I’m not calling you out or anything, this is a general statement, but 99% of people that I see box squat fuck it up.
That’s literally one of the few videos I’ve seen of a properly executed box squat. Special lifts like that have to be coached and cued all the time because there’s more things a lifter has to do right in a box squat than they would have to do in a free squat. Also, I do think the mechanics of a box squat is like lifting in a monolift/multi ply squat combo. I can see how it could work for a raw squatter, squatting out of a monolift, but for most guys that don’t use it, the box squat won’t help out their squat period.
I believe in doing a lot of ab work, but because Sheiko doesn’t have a lot of direct ab work, I try to make up for it by doing all my lifts beltless, and only use it minimally. Unless I state otherwise, every lift is beltless.
I don’t know if I’m a monster yet haha. I consider guys like StormTheBeach and Ajweins to be superior than me. They are the true monsters, I’m just trying to catch up.
Lol at putting me and STB in the same sentence. Thanks though. I got a kid who might give you a run at raw nationals for the junior 220. Freakshow deadlifter. Has pulled 700 in a meet.
Detaz - How would you set up a block routine using Prelipen’s guide to add some mass while preserving or improving strength?
Also - I think that box squats can destroy your raw squat. I was at 415 1RM for squat before my training group started a 6 week box squat regimen. Most of us lost 30 - 35 lbs. of strength. We noticed that most of us would really slow down at the bottom while “fishing” for the box with our asses. We switched to pauses at the bottom (no box) and all of us are picking up strength quickly.
[quote]ajweins wrote:
Lol at putting me and STB in the same sentence. Thanks though. I got a kid who might give you a run at raw nationals for the junior 220. Freakshow deadlifter. Has pulled 700 in a meet. [/quote]
lol at calling me a monster.
I say bring it to any competition, I hope to be well rounded in all 3 lifts, I’m motivated to ascend to the next level.
[quote]70sSurvivor wrote:
Detaz - How would you set up a block routine using Prelipen’s guide to add some mass while preserving or improving strength?
Also - I think that box squats can destroy your raw squat. I was at 415 1RM for squat before my training group started a 6 week box squat regimen. Most of us lost 30 - 35 lbs. of strength. We noticed that most of us would really slow down at the bottom while “fishing” for the box with our asses. We switched to pauses at the bottom (no box) and all of us are picking up strength quickly.
Thanks man ![/quote]
uhh, adding mass is more of a diet thing. I never eat to gain mass or improve strength. I don’t look at my physique or numbers in that paradigm. I eat to support my training. Whatever my body looks like is a side effect of what my training has done to it.
Will the higher volume from an accumulation block help put on muscle mass? And will transmutation improve strength and specialize strength gains to the powerlifts from the supercompensation of the prior accumulation? Yes, but it would be wrong to say that it’s that straightforward. If you want a basic rundown of Block Ideas I’d check out the elitefts articles as a primer.
I don’t necessarily think box squats are necessarily bad for raw squatting, but in my opinion, how must people box squat in terms of programming and execution is done wrong.
