The Philosophy of Liberty

[quote]Severiano wrote:
You deny white privilege while living in Japan and acknowledging people double take at you because you are white, and likely exotic to them.
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This is probably not a good example of white privilege.

If I stop and do a double-take every time I see a black person, ogling the exotic creature from the strange hinterland, am I contributing to black privilege, or am I just kind of racist?

I wish I had an arch-nemesis. Why don’t I ever get an arch-nemesis?

[quote]smh_23 wrote:

[quote]Severiano wrote:
You deny white privilege while living in Japan and acknowledging people double take at you because you are white, and likely exotic to them.
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This is probably not a good example of white privilege.

If I stop and do a double-take every time I see a black person, ogling the exotic creature from the strange hinterland, am I contributing to black privilege, or am I just kind of racist?[/quote]

When you think about it, it’s the purest example of it. It makes more sense if you’ve lived in Japan for a while. Not all Japanese but quite a few are racist towards both Ainu and Ryukuan people. I know when I lived in Okinawa there were Japanese who didn’t consider Okinawan’s Japanese, but mixed. They have this thing about pureness of race and homogeneity, as well as their particular race being pure and superior because of it.

As a result those groups have been historically treated as second class. I actually met a student when I was going to school who laughed at me when I said I lived in Japan, then specifically Okinawa and outright stated they are Chinese mutts.

What is interesting is they look at certain racial types with a type of scorn and almost disapproval. You are more likely to find people in actual awe, almost starstruck sometimes by white folks which can be pretty cute and funny, but when you compare it to the way they view and market large black men, like say Bob Sapp back in the day there is a unique type of blaxploitation. Also, you should see how accepting the Japanese family structures tend to be when their daughters marry whites, vs. other foreigners like Blacks or other Asians. They are a lot more accepting. It’s one of the purest forms of white privilege there is. Straight up, culturally it is very shameful to a lot of families if a daughter marries a non Japanese or non white, that is a very exclusive thing to have in sexual availability due to perceived race. You can go ahead and ask some of your buddies who have done a tour or two in Japan. There are tons of stories of men falling in love only to have families reject them because they aren’t Japanese or white.

Liberty?

Colorado’s Masterpiece Cakeshop Must Serve Gay Couples Despite Owner’s Religious Beliefs, Judge Rules

DENVER (AP) ? A Colorado judge says a baker who refused to make a wedding cake for a same-sex ceremony must serve gay couples despite his religious beliefs.

Friday’s order from administrative law judge Robert N. Spencer says Masterpiece Cakeshop in suburban Denver will face fines if it continues to turn away gay couples who want to buy cakes for their wedding celebrations.

An attorney for Masterpiece Cakeshop did not immediately return a call seeking comment. Shop owner Jack Phillips had argued that making cakes for gay wedding ceremonies violates his Christian beliefs.

The American Civil Liberties Union filed a complaint against Phillips with the Colorado Civil Rights Commission last year on behalf of Charlie Craig and David Mullins. The couple was married in Massachusetts and wanted a wedding cake to celebrate in Colorado.

[quote]Severiano wrote:

The back and forths between you and I got personal a while back. You are the one who dragged b.s. that started on PWI to the get a life forum with EmilyQ who seems to be a nice enough lady. Did you ever take the time to ask yourself why a person with mastery in relationships would ask sophomoric questions about relationships that she already knows about to a bunch of meatheads and jocks? You are a bit too dim to realize I saw right through it and was giving her what she wanted, maybe you have a problem with that aspect in your life? But once again you singled me out by pointing out I was giving her what she wanted lol. She’s an intriguing lady, she’s interesting to all of us, have you gathered that yet?
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Um, wow. I just can’t even begin to unravel any of this, and don’t want to, so let me only say that I am a licensed clinical social worker, LICSW, and am credentialed to practice individual, family, and group psychotherapy in my state. That’s very different from a “mastery in relationships.”

I will also say that probably I do have mastery in relationships, as shown by the long term nature of every single one of them. However, sustaining a shitty relationship until the end of time is not my current goal. Figuring out how to identify the non-surface traits I seek (integrity, self-control) in the very brief time I have before I need to either go forward (sex) or cut bait is the issue.

That’s not one of the classes we’re taught in graduate school.

Since I like meatheads and jocks who like expressing their thoughts in writing, and hope to find exactly this combination of traits, this seems a most excellent place to ask questions.

Your response (MBTI) was sophomoric in that Meyers Briggs is taught in Intro Psych, and Chushin knows perfectly well that I have a pretty good grip on my personality type. I think you read my questions and projected your own level of development and education onto them. However, you were trying to be helpful, which is nice, and I appreciate it. Chushin was what I think of as uncharacteristically abrupt with you. Which is interesting as a female observer, so thank you both for THAT piece of my post-graduate study of men in their natural online environment.

[quote]Severiano wrote:
If I’m a kid it’s in heart and fight.
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Here’s the thing. You’re the only one that is fighting. Everybody else is just kinda going “wtf?”.

So you’ve been to Japan. That could be a great platform to build on as shared experience, but you’ve use it as a boxing ring instead.

This whole trying to figure people out thing that you’re doing too- completely futile. You started with CD, and are laughably wrong. Then Chushin, also laughably wrong.

This thread has taken a curve.

I am still looking around for my piece of White Privilege. Anyone know where I can get me some?

Proponents of anarchy are imbecilic idealists. They are also an unfortunate stain upon the philosophy of libertarianism. Good luck thriving, much less surviving, in a world of self constructed autarky.

[quote]Bismark wrote:
Proponents of Progressivism are imbecilic idealists. They are also an unfortunate stain upon the philosophy of Liberty. Good luck thriving, much less surviving, in a world of self constructed government teet suckers.[/quote]

Fixed that for ya.

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]Bismark wrote:
Proponents of Progressivism are imbecilic idealists. They are also an unfortunate stain upon the philosophy of Liberty. Good luck thriving, much less surviving, in a world of self constructed government teet suckers.[/quote]

Fixed that for ya.[/quote]

Thing is, he’s right about anarchism. It’s beyond ridiculous and I think anybody ought to see that right away, but especially anybody with a grounding in, say, Hobbes, ought to see that.

[quote]dmaddox wrote:
This thread has taken a curve.

I am still looking around for my piece of White Privilege. Anyone know where I can get me some?[/quote]

You did go and hog all the height.

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]Bismark wrote:
Proponents of Progressivism are imbecilic idealists. They are also an unfortunate stain upon the philosophy of Liberty. Good luck thriving, much less surviving, in a world of self constructed government teet suckers.[/quote]

Fixed that for ya.[/quote]

Where exactly did I espouse “Progressivism” as my political ideology? Anarchy is for 13 year old boys and apparently some of the adults they grow into.

[quote]Aragorn wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]Bismark wrote:
Proponents of Progressivism are imbecilic idealists. They are also an unfortunate stain upon the philosophy of Liberty. Good luck thriving, much less surviving, in a world of self constructed government teet suckers.[/quote]

Fixed that for ya.[/quote]

Thing is, he’s right about anarchism. It’s beyond ridiculous and I think anybody ought to see that right away, but especially anybody with a grounding in, say, Hobbes, ought to see that.[/quote]

It was a joke and nothing more. I am in no way an anarchist.

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:
This thread has taken a curve.

I am still looking around for my piece of White Privilege. Anyone know where I can get me some?[/quote]

You did go and hog all the height.[/quote]

lol. I still have the white privilege of my Whiteman’s Disease. The inability to jump.

[quote]Bismark wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]Bismark wrote:
Proponents of Progressivism are imbecilic idealists. They are also an unfortunate stain upon the philosophy of Liberty. Good luck thriving, much less surviving, in a world of self constructed government teet suckers.[/quote]

Fixed that for ya.[/quote]

Where exactly did I espouse “Progressivism” as my political ideology? Anarchy is for 13 year old boys and apparently some of the adults they grow into.[/quote]

Do not get your panties in a wad. It was a joke. You have only espoused Iran should have a nuke, and that is pretty much it.

So what is your take on Politics?

[quote]Bismark wrote:
Proponents of anarchy are imbecilic idealists. They are also an unfortunate stain upon the philosophy of libertarianism. Good luck thriving, much less surviving, in a world of self constructed autarky.[/quote]

Please define anarchy, libertarianism, and autarky. Mr. Libertarian(Murray Rothbard) is usually referred to as an anarchist. I really don’t know whether his anarcho-capitalism, which I am a fan of, actually counts as anarchy. However, it is commonly called anarchy. I’m not sure how autarky can be associated with anarcho-capitalism, unless you have a much different definition of the word than I.

The problem with anarco-capitalism is that it’s based upon the assumption that economic prosperity is the principal goal of actors. “If only market forces could be allowed to prevail…” In reality, security is the preeminent concern of individuals and the states that they inhabit. History shows time and time again this to be true.