Hey Bros,
Does this look like a good first cycle?
Weeks 1 - 12, Testosterone Enanthate, 300mgs E4D
Weeks 1 - 12, Arimidex, .5mg EOD
Weeks 13 - 15, HCG, 250iu ED
Weeks 13 - 16, Aromasin, 20mgs ED
Weeks 14 - 20, Nolvadex, 20mgs ED
Thx.
Nope.
Any suggestions? I researched this for awhile, and thought I incorporated all the advice I found online into this cycle. Thx.
I like your idea of starting out simple.
I don’t think you’ll need HCG with this cycle. A-dex could be .25 mg instead of .5mg. I’d add some D-bol in at 30mg a day for the first 4 weeks. That stuff is a lot of fun:D You’ll be happy you did. I’d take some Liv 52 with the D-bol for liver support.
It might not be a bad idea to add in some cardio to keep your blood pressure in check.
[quote]warden wrote:
Hey Bros,
Does this look like a good first cycle?
Weeks 1 - 12, Testosterone Enanthate, 300mgs E4D
Weeks 1 - 12, Arimidex, .5mg EOD
Weeks 13 - 15, HCG, 250iu ED
Weeks 13 - 16, Aromasin, 20mgs ED
Weeks 14 - 20, Nolvadex, 20mgs ED
Thx.
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it isn’t that bad…I think you guys are being a little critical.
your test dose is OK but I would make it a 200-250mg shot every 3 days if you are shooting enth
12-14 weeks (inlcuding clearance) is a good length for enth so that’s fine
if you wanna really avoid estrogen i guess the adex is fine but it is a little high…if you go .25mg eod you have nolva on hand so if you are getting problems you can always pop some nolva until you are in the clear
I haven’t used aromasin so I can’t really tell you the dose on that but if you have kept estrogen in check during the cycle with the Adex you shouldn’t need much to combat estrogen post cycle besides nolva…just remember to continue the adex as you test is clearing (enth last for 2-3 weeks after your last shot) so continue, then taper, the adex duing this time to get a gradual transition back to normal. If you do that right i don’t think you’ll need the aromasin.
I haven’t used HCG either but 250iu is a maintenance level (you would take 250iu eod or e3d during your cycle to keep your nuts up) once they are shrunk you need to use a higher dose to get them back. If you are taking it as PCT you’d shoot it during the last week of your test shots and for the next 2 while the enth ester is clearing (ie when you are still technically on the gear),
then you’d take the nolva after that for an equal or longer period (such as 4 weeks) because HCG is suppressive, meaning even though your nuts look nice and big they aren’t fully recovered yet because you are doing it with exogenous compounds which is desensitizing the lydig cells. I can’t remember ideal dose of HCG but it’s much higher and you don’t do it every day.
your nolva dose should start at 40mg ed for the 1st week and then drop to 20mg ed for the next few weeks. i think 2 weeks after your last shot is fine but some wait 3. 6 weeks of nolva is a lot though…too much in my opinion. 4 weeks should be enough.
personally i would skip the dbol on the maiden voyage so you really understand how you respond to test. I found I got too bloated, stomach issues, and got terrible back pumps on even a low dose of dbol (30mg/d)…you may not experience this but unless you add one compound at a time it’s tough to figure out.
best of luck.
FG
Also, you should wait about another week longer from when you finish the Test injections to when you start HCG. I would frankly leave out Aromasin at the point you’re suggesting (you shouldn’t worry about any testosterone aromatising, since there won’t be any to aromatise in the first place). And yes, as has been stated… it should be more like Test E E3D as opposed to E4D.
[quote]Hagar wrote:
I like your idea of starting out simple.
I don’t think you’ll need HCG with this cycle. A-dex could be .25 mg instead of .5mg. I’d add some D-bol in at 30mg a day for the first 4 weeks. That stuff is a lot of fun:D You’ll be happy you did. I’d take some Liv 52 with the D-bol for liver support.
It might not be a bad idea to add in some cardio to keep your blood pressure in check.[/quote]
I don’t think it’s necessary but I’ll agree with Hagar that I am certainly enjoying the dbol in my cycle right now. It just blows you right up damn near immediately.
It sure does, but I think I’m going to stick with Anadrol for the kick-start from now on.
On a side note, I’ll kill the next man to call Anadrol “a bombs.”
Cool, I’ll cut out the Aromasin and inject the test E3D.
Is there a problem with injecting the HCG less frequently during PCT? Could I get away with injecting 500iu EOD or 750iu E3D?
If I run HCG from week 14 to 16 (last shot of test at week 12), should I start the Nolva at week 17? Or start the Nolva at week 14, alongside the HCG?
I think I’ll hold off on the Dbol/Anadrol kick start for now. It’s my first cycle, so I don’t want to complicate things with multiple compounds. I may front load the test though.
Thanks for the help.
[quote]warden wrote:
Cool, I’ll cut out the Aromasin and inject the test E3D.
Is there a problem with injecting the HCG less frequently during PCT? Could I get away with injecting 500iu EOD or 750iu E3D?
If I run HCG from week 14 to 16 (last shot of test at week 12), should I start the Nolva at week 17? Or start the Nolva at week 14, alongside the HCG?
I think I’ll hold off on the Dbol/Anadrol kick start for now. It’s my first cycle, so I don’t want to complicate things with multiple compounds. I may front load the test though.
Thanks for the help.
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A lot of folks around here don’t have a lot of faith in the frontload.
Why do you prefer anadrol over dbol?
[quote]Contrl wrote:
It sure does, but I think I’m going to stick with Anadrol for the kick-start from now on.
On a side note, I’ll kill the next man to call Anadrol “a bombs.”[/quote]
Don’t get me wrong, Dianabol is great and all, but from the one and only time I’ve tried Anadrol, I’d have to say that the drastic strength increases are considerably better. This contributes to my ego, and thus my general well-being and mood. Therefore, my work-outs are more intense and productive than when on Dianabol.
Plus, Dianabol makes me break out like a 15 year-old working fast food.