My first reaction is to say go for it. Then my common sense kicks in and says don’t screw up the knee, there will be other meets. How about a compromise? Just take a minimum squat and go all out on the other lifts. Won’t give you a great total but it’ll get you back in the game.
Ditto what hel says. Better to be in some of the game than none at all.
I noticed you did not have a suit or knee wraps.That will add some support and give you some carry over.You have a few days to heal and feel it out.I booked the room and the teenagers are ready to go.
I was talking to a old school powerlifter about my lifts and my back still tweaked.He had a good point when he said,everyone is a little banged up after a power cyle going into a meet.If you recall DZ was having some shoulder pain and achs he was concerned about and he came out just fine.I hope you can make it.But if not, there are more meets later in the year.I’m going to jump off into the meet cause I gotta do what I gotta do! I know that makes no sense,but master lifters can do that stuff.Hang in there PN. Jimmy T
[quote]hel320 wrote:
How about a compromise? Just take a minimum squat and go all out on the other lifts. Won’t give you a great total but it’ll get you back in the game. [/quote]
Sounds like Hel320 is speaking words of wisdom to me, and maybe like Quartertonner says the squat might turn out better than you anticipate now. Good luck in your decision – you have put in the hard work already.
Just when you thought it was safe (sorry about the novel to follow but it’s been a while)…
Well, I decided not to go to the meet. I was really let down that I didn’t at least get to go cheer on Jimmy and his crew but I didn’t think it was good for me to lift and if i wasn’t lifting, I couldn’t really convince my wife to go. And if my wife wasn’t going… well… we only have one care. 
Back in 2000, I hurt my shoulder in my first ever meet. I worked really hard to recover from that before my second meet in 200 and even though my shoulder was still hurting, I went ahead and competed.
I tried to lift through the pain and ended up wrecking my shoulder to the point where I couldn’t touch the top of my head for about a year and I couldn’t lift anything over my head for about 2 years. I didn’t want a replay of that.
In that video on 6/8, I actually ended up hurting myself even worse. My knee got much worse and I also wrecked my left hip on that squat. I took a week off. I’ve been slowly getting myself ready for lifting again. I was reduced to bodyweight squats for a week and I’ve just been trying to get everything working again.
In the meantime, I’ve had WAY too much time to think about this stuff and I ended up buying Schuler and Cosgrove’s New Rules of Lifting. We’ll see how long this lasts but I decided to go through his system… I’ll probably stop and go back to my old stuff at some point but… wth. I can’t squat heavy right now anyway.
So besides The Rules (which for the most part aren’t particularly new to most of us), they have basically 4 different types of lifters: The Eternal Beginner (not me), The Skinny Guy (not me), The Time Strapped (not me), and Serious Lifter who is Seriously Fat (uh… not quite me).
The #4 lifter is probably the closest thing to me but it’s got some assumptions that are way wrong: light bulb who only trains upper body, strong guy who looks like crap, blah blah blah. Anyway, I’m going to give it a shot.
weight: 199.4 (gained 5 pounds over July 4th)
Warmups: Lunge twists, Lunge touches, Russian twists
Warmup squats: 45x5; 95x2
1a. Squats - 135x15, 135x15
1b. Static BB Lunges - 95x15, 95x15
2a. DB Rows (Out) - 25x15, 25x15
2b. Pushups - 0x15, 0x15
- Swiss Ball Crunches: 25x20, 25x20
I kept the weights on the squats low because my knee is still wonky and these are more reps than I’m used to. I’ve never done barbell lunges like this before, I’ve only done db lunges. So I wasn’t sure of the weight to use. I also wasn’t sure how the supersetting was going to impact me. I was WIPED after these.
I knew that the rows and pushups were going to be too easy. It only calls for 15 pushups and my last workout before this (just doing my own stuff), I did a set of 35 diamond pushups – which was a PR for me btw.
Then after that… intervals. I hates intervals.
Hates them, I do.
Good to have you back PN!
weight: 198.4
Warmup Deadlift: 45x5
1A Deadlifts: 135x15, 135x15
1B Short Stepups with DBs: 25x15, 25x15
2A One Arm DB Press: 25x15, 25x15
2B Close Grip Lat Pulls: 90x15, 90x15
Reverse Crunches: 0x20, 0x20
I forgot to do all the warm up stuff I was supposed to do. Bleh.
I was originally going to go heavier on the DLs but considering how sore I am from just doing squats at 135, I decided to stay with the light DLs. I prolly should have gone heavier. But I used an overhand grip for this and it was probably a decent grip workout. The stepups were a problem. Normally, I do high stepups by stepping up onto my bench. But I did these to about mid-shin and that was too low. Next time, I’m going to ditch the weights and do the high stepups.
I haven’t done a one arm press before like this and I kept it light. Not a problem there, I can add more weight. Gotta be careful with my shoulder, though. I also hadn’t done close grip lat pulls before and these were actually a little heavy. They made me work a bit so I guessed the weights right.
The reverse crunches were hard enough but I’m wondering how I’m going to add weight to those. Maybe holding a ball between my knees or something.
Anyway, then I did intervals for 19 minutes. I hates me some intervals.
Oh yes, they are an SOB but by God they are effective 
Nice log, PN, keep it up
[quote]The Pencil Neck wrote:
weight: 198.4
Warmup Deadlift: 45x5
1A Deadlifts: 135x15, 135x15
1B Short Stepups with DBs: 25x15, 25x15
2A One Arm DB Press: 25x15, 25x15
2B Close Grip Lat Pulls: 90x15, 90x15
Reverse Crunches: 0x20, 0x20
I forgot to do all the warm up stuff I was supposed to do. Bleh.
I was originally going to go heavier on the DLs but considering how sore I am from just doing squats at 135, I decided to stay with the light DLs. I prolly should have gone heavier. But I used an overhand grip for this and it was probably a decent grip workout. The stepups were a problem. Normally, I do high stepups by stepping up onto my bench. But I did these to about mid-shin and that was too low. Next time, I’m going to ditch the weights and do the high stepups.
I haven’t done a one arm press before like this and I kept it light. Not a problem there, I can add more weight. Gotta be careful with my shoulder, though. I also hadn’t done close grip lat pulls before and these were actually a little heavy. They made me work a bit so I guessed the weights right.
The reverse crunches were hard enough but I’m wondering how I’m going to add weight to those. Maybe holding a ball between my knees or something.
Anyway, then I did intervals for 19 minutes. I hates me some intervals.[/quote]
That looks like a gasper session! 15’s at any weight get tough.
Nice to see you back posting PN.
This is from yesterday: 07/10/08
weight: 198.4
Warmup Squats: 45x5, 95x2
1A Squats: 145x15, 145x15
1B Static BB Lunges: 100x15, 100x15
2A DB Rows (out): 30x15, 30x15
2B Pushups: 0x20, 0x20
Crunches: 30x20, 30x20
The squats were OK. But the lunges were killing me. I was gassed after them. I was really concentrating on getting low. My knee didn’t hurt during the exercises but between them, it was aching bad. My feet hurt afterwards, too.
They hurt the first time I tried this workout and I tried different shoes today; I switched from my Chucky Taylors to some Nikes. Didn’t matter. Still hurt.
The rows, pushups, and crunches weren’t any big problem except for the whole being wiped out from the squat/lunge superset. Guess I need to add more weight.
Also, I didn’t say this earlier, but I normally rest for 2 minutes between sets but with this workout, I’m cutting back to 1 minute. That’s not helping.
And after all that, 19 minutes of intervals. I hates them.
[quote]The Pencil Neck wrote:
And after all that, 19 minutes of intervals. I hates them.[/quote]
Yeah - but you’re still doing them! I think you secretely love them…
Nice session!
Weight: 197.6
Warmup Deadlifts: 45x5,135x1
1A Deadlifts: 185x15, 185x15
1B Step Ups: 20x15, 20x15
2A 1 arm press: 30x15, 30x15
2B Close Grip Pulldowns: 100x15, 100x15
Reverse Crunches: 0x22, 0x22
I did the first set of deadlifts with overhand grip but my grip (which is the weakest link in the dead) started feeling weak so I shifted to mixed grip for the second set.
The stepups were hard. The first workout I had done with these, I had done short stepups because I thought the bench was higher than what they wanted… but it wasn’t. So this workout, I stepped up onto my bench.
I was gassed after each set of these. On the second set, second leg, I had to pause for a few seconds after the 10th rep. My bad knee actually feels fine during these although still weaker than my left leg.
The 1 arm presses were fine. But the close grip pulldowns were hard because my grip was wiped out.
Even though my workout room is in my house, the AC is mostly shut off in that room and it’s HOT. I was soaked with sweat and totally gassed when I got to the reverse crunches. The second set, I did 15 and then paused for a couple of seconds before finishing the set.
I r wimp.
AND, I didn’t do the intervals after this workout. I’m not sure if I COULD have but I had a phone conference and I wasn’t sure I’d have myself together before the conference. So I skipped the Intervals. I’m going to do them a little later today.
Keep hammering away brother!
You’re not a wimp PN, it’ll come around for you. Sorry about the meet, and the injuries that prevented you from lifting. Good to see you back under the bar Buddy.
Thanks, guys. It’s good to be back.
weight: 196.4
Warmup Squats: 45x5, 95x2
1A Squats: 155x15, 155x15
1B Static BB Lunges: 105x15, 105x15
2A DB Rows (out): 35x15, 35x15
2B Pushups: 0x25, 0x25
Crunches: 32.5x20, 32.5x20
The program calls for a 60 second rest on these things and I’ve been doing it. But after my second set of squats, I took 120 seconds. And then I took 90 seconds after every set after that. I just don’t think my recovery is ready for 60 seconds after years of 2+ minutes. I mean, there just wasn’t enough air in the room if I was only resting for 60 seconds. I don’t understand how guys like Streamline and Old Navy do these kinds of workouts.
All the weights were fine. Had to concentrate and force myself to finish the lunges. Everything else was within my limits as long as I had enough rest.
And after all that, 19 minutes of intervals. Dunno if anybody knows this but… I hates them.
So I was curious: how exactly do you feel about intervals?
[quote]skidmark wrote:
So I was curious: how exactly do you feel about intervals?[/quote]
I lurv me some intervals.
But only when other people are doing them.
weight: 196.2
Warmup Deadlifts: 45x5, 135x1
1A Deadlifts: 195x15, 195x15
1B Step Ups: 20x15, 20x15
2A 1 arm press: 35x15, 35x15
2B Close Grip Pulldowns: 102.5x15, 102.5x15
Reverse Crunches: 0x24, 0x24
After my last workout, I moved this to a 90 second rest between sets.
I did the first set of deadlifts with an overhand grip. I basically did 9 reps, reset, 3, reset, 2, reset, 1. Then I did my step ups. Then I used a mixed grip and still started losing it: 10 reps, 3, 2. Then on my last set of stepups, I did the first 15, rested for about 60 seconds, and did my last 15.
I was gassed and dripping sweat by that point.
The 1 arm presses are getting close to max. I’ll start going up only 2.5# per. The close grip pulldowns… I might have to look for my straps for those guys. I had to reset my grip several times on both sets.
And then after that, I really didn’t have the juice to do intervals. There was no way I was running. I walked for 10 minutes and went back to work.
Tonight, we go looking at a new house with enough acreage so we can put a barn on it. And then we get to move our horses onto our own property instead of having to board them.
Make the barn a little bigger for the gym!!Keep hammering at it brother.
[quote]Jimmy T wrote:
Make the barn a little bigger for the gym!![/quote]
Oh, hell no! I want some AC.
This heat would kill me.
If we buy the place then my gym room will be a little bit smaller than my current setup. I’ll have enough room for my power cage and my weights. But I’ll probably have to ditch the roman chair and figure something else out. And the treadmill is going to have to somewhere else.
BUT… I’ll be downstairs instead of upstairs so I won’t be worrying about dropping the weights and falling into the garage anymore.
But… we’ll see. We’re going to make an offer on it but we’re still going to have to sell ours. That could be hard.