[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I’ll give him credit for trying.
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lol. He’s a Socialist. That is anti-liberty by definition. You literally can’t be a Socialist and believe in freedom. They are mutually exclusive thought processes.
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Really??
“In place of the old bourgeois society, with its classes and class antagonisms, we shall have an association, in which the free development of each is the condition for the free development of all.” (Karl Marx. 1848. pg. 27).
Sounds to me like the freedom of the individual was rather important to old Karl. Now offcourse his( and my ) idea of freedom his perhaps different than Yours.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I’ll give him credit for trying.
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lol. He’s a Socialist. That is anti-liberty by definition. You literally can’t be a Socialist and believe in freedom. They are mutually exclusive thought processes.
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Really??
“In place of the old bourgeois society, with its classes and class antagonisms, we shall have an association, in which the free development of each is the condition for the free development of all.” (Karl Marx. 1848. pg. 27).
Sounds to me like the freedom of the individual was rather important to old Karl. Now offcourse his( and my ) idea of freedom his perhaps different than Yours. [/quote]
To be fair Karl Marx made all sorts of predictions, for example he thought LLC’s (limited liability company) would pave the way to socialism by separating ownership from management, thus making it possible to eliminate capitalists who would no longer manage the firm, without jeopardising the material progress capitalism had achieved.
Instead it allowed massive accumulation of personal capital by giving shareholders an easy exit, reducing any given risk in an investment. Marx believed in the dialectic. He might draw completely different conclusions based on the current conditions than he did when he was alive and the society he analysed then.
You never know he might now view capitalism as not at the end of its epoch, but rather still the most revolutionary and not yet obsolete mode of production. Many famous Marxists have come around to this position, most famously Christopher Hitchens.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Well, every main stream media outlet except Fox is attacking Fiorina so she must be doing something right. [/quote]
I must be missing it (which would not be the first time)…but I haven’t seen this at all.
There are a lot of ex-CEO’s and assortment of others with a bone to pick with her who are Blogging and writing negative stuff about her; but I haven’t seen some wholesale attack my the “MSLM”.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Well, every main stream media outlet except Fox is attacking Fiorina so she must be doing something right. [/quote]
I must be missing it (which would not be the first time)…but I haven’t seen this at all.
There are a lot of ex-CEO’s and assortment of others with a bone to pick with her who are Blogging and writing negative stuff about her; but I haven’t seen some wholesale attack my the “MSLM”.
(Again…I may be just missing it…)
Mufasa
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MSNBC and CNN are all over her planned parenthood statement from the debate and I keep seeing articles about her time at HP.
Hearing that Scott Walker is out. Soon to be official.
Didn’t see that one coming, maybe didn’t have enough money to continue? He was the front runner before the summer of Trump. I thought he was going to try and hang around until the Trump noise was over.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I’ll give him credit for trying.
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lol. He’s a Socialist. That is anti-liberty by definition. You literally can’t be a Socialist and believe in freedom. They are mutually exclusive thought processes.
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Really??
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Yes, really. If I can’t own my property, or use it to make a living (ie: mah means of production) I am not free.
Real simple shit here man. A person can not be a collectivist and advocate for freedom at the same time. It literally can’t work. If one doesn’t own her property, her capital or her business, she isn’t free.
[quote]Drew1411 wrote:
Hearing that Scott Walker is out. Soon to be official.
Didn’t see that one coming, maybe didn’t have enough money to continue? He was the front runner before the summer of Trump. I thought he was going to try and hang around until the Trump noise was over.[/quote]
This is an important point.
Bush has a huge War Chest so that he can last a lot longer…but only as long as the PACS and other donors keep shuttling him money.
Another point. While Bush did well in the debate; it just didn’t have the effect of moving him up in the Polls.
[quote]Drew1411 wrote:
Hearing that Scott Walker is out. Soon to be official.
Didn’t see that one coming, maybe didn’t have enough money to continue? He was the front runner before the summer of Trump. I thought he was going to try and hang around until the Trump noise was over.[/quote]
[quote]Drew1411 wrote:
Hearing that Scott Walker is out. Soon to be official.
Didn’t see that one coming, maybe didn’t have enough money to continue? He was the front runner before the summer of Trump. I thought he was going to try and hang around until the Trump noise was over.[/quote]
This is an important point.
Bush has a huge War Chest so that he can last a lot longer…but only as long as the PACS and other donors keep shuttling him money.
Another point. While Bush did well in the debate; it just didn’t have the effect of moving him up in the Polls.
How long he last is a story in and of itself.
Mufasa[/quote]
I caught that lol. Your secret is safe with me. But if we had PM’s I’d have questions!
