The Next President of the United States: II

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Any thoughts on John Kasich from Ohio ?[/quote]

I like him best out of all the current (and possible) Republican candidates. I know of him from his days as an OH Rep and liked him then as well.

I think he’s better qualified than any other R candidate, but unfortunately, occupies the same space on the R ticket as Jeb and people seem to like Jeb more.

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Two things, he’s just right of Jeb which will make him popular during the primaries. Secondly, I’m not so sure people like Jeb more. But, the big money in the republican party loves Jeb and that dates back to promises to his father most likely brother as well.

With that said I think Jeb can be beaten. Money is important in politics but there other things in play as well.

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Carly Fiorina is saying some pretty good stuff on Hanity tonight.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Carly Fiorina is saying some pretty good stuff on Hanity tonight. [/quote]

I agree she is a very interesting candidate. I doubt she will gain the nomination but perhaps a spot on the ticket?

Who knows?

Personally, I’d love to see her debate Hillary head to head. She’d mop up the floor with her no doubt. Very, very bright woman.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Carly Fiorina is saying some pretty good stuff on Hanity tonight. [/quote]

I agree she is a very interesting candidate. I doubt she will gain the nomination but perhaps a spot on the ticket?

Who knows?

Personally, I’d love to see her debate Hillary head to head. She’d mop up the floor with her no doubt. Very, very bright woman.[/quote]

Agreed.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Carly Fiorina is saying some pretty good stuff on Hanity tonight. [/quote]

I agree she is a very interesting candidate. I doubt she will gain the nomination but perhaps a spot on the ticket?

Who knows?

Personally, I’d love to see her debate Hillary head to head. She’d mop up the floor with her no doubt. Very, very bright woman.[/quote]

Agreed. [/quote]

But I do wonder if placing her at the bottom of the ticket might look like pandering which can only get us into trouble especially with the media working against the republican party (read multiple negative stories). And out of the minority of women who are voting for Clinton just because she’s a woman how many would change their mind because the republicans placed a women on the ticket - I think not many.

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Carly would get hammered for outsourcing thousands of jobs at HP, this is how she lost when challenging Barbara Boxer for her senate seat.

Granted this happened here, which is bluer than blue, but the point remains that it worked and would be used again.

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[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Carly would get hammered for outsourcing thousands of jobs at HP, this is how she lost when challenging Barbara Boxer for her senate seat.

Granted this happened here, which is bluer than blue, but the point remains that it worked and would be used again.[/quote]

She’d be targeted for the outsourcing, but I’m not sure it’d destroy her chances of winning.

I don’t think she has much of a shot though.

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[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Carly would get hammered for outsourcing thousands of jobs at HP, this is how she lost when challenging Barbara Boxer for her senate seat.

Granted this happened here, which is bluer than blue, but the point remains that it worked and would be used again.[/quote]

Strange times we live in. Carly outsources some jobs and that might keep her from winning the nomination. But, Hillary Clinton allows one of our embassies to go down with an ambassador and three others killed…takes illegal donations for the Clinton foundation while holding high office…and a number of other scandals. and the press is still relatively quiet about it. Oh…that’s right the media is in the hip pocket of the democratic party.

I almost forgot for a second.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Carly would get hammered for outsourcing thousands of jobs at HP, this is how she lost when challenging Barbara Boxer for her senate seat.

Granted this happened here, which is bluer than blue, but the point remains that it worked and would be used again.[/quote]

Strange times we live in. Carly outsources some jobs and that might keep her from winning the nomination. But, Hillary Clinton allows one of our embassies to go down with an ambassador and three others killed…takes illegal donations for the Clinton foundation while holding high office…and a number of other scandals. and the press is still relatively quiet about it. Oh…that’s right the media is in the hip pocket of the democratic party.

I almost forgot for a second.

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Outsourcing affects people more directly though. Its not hard to find someone who is not just a little concerned their job could be outsourced one of these days. Personally I care more about my job than who gets killed in Libya or who donates to the Clinton foundation.

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[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Carly would get hammered for outsourcing thousands of jobs at HP, this is how she lost when challenging Barbara Boxer for her senate seat.

Granted this happened here, which is bluer than blue, but the point remains that it worked and would be used again.[/quote]

Strange times we live in. Carly outsources some jobs and that might keep her from winning the nomination. But, Hillary Clinton allows one of our embassies to go down with an ambassador and three others killed…takes illegal donations for the Clinton foundation while holding high office…and a number of other scandals. and the press is still relatively quiet about it. Oh…that’s right the media is in the hip pocket of the democratic party.

I almost forgot for a second.

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Outsourcing affects people more directly though. Its not hard to find someone who is not just a little concerned their job could be outsourced one of these days. Personally I care more about my job than who gets killed in Libya or who donates to the Clinton foundation.
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Of course you do!

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]phatso wrote:
Paul won’t progress unless he is willing to sell out to the corporate machine.

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Can you be specific. Who would he be “selling out” to? How would this “selling out” manifest itself? I’m not sure I understand exactly what you’re talking about.

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What do they say you need like $150 million to run for president?
That means you have a lot of people to pay back once you make it in to office :slight_smile:

I have always liked Old Man Paul, even though I didn’t agree with everything he said, I just liked his genuine nature. Someone who would say what he believes in even knowing the whole room will boo him. Everyone else in politics is just there for a career. [/quote]

Kind of important what they say though. Ron Paul says crazy stuff all the time and he’s so anti-American he’s become a celebrity in parts of the world where hating America is national past time. He regularly appears on Iranian state TV(PressTV) and denounces America’s “war crimes” and “illegal wars”. And the Russians love him too. He’s on RTV all the time airing his latest conspiracy theories about how the evil US government is provoking the Russians. Yes, Ron Paul certainly is a favourite with the Death to America crowd. Not sure he’d make a very good American politician though. Actually, I’m certain he’d be a disaster. Fortunately, people can see what a kook he is.[/quote]

Because he denounces American militarism, he’s a kook. Not surprising that it comes from a person who believes that the U.S. should be able to take anything they want as long as it benefits them. You’re the kook.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]magick wrote:
I HAVE NO IDEA WTF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS ABOUT AND I REALLY WANNA KNOW.[/quote]

Job Creation: Getting Americans Back to Work
Small Business and Entrepreneurship
Tax Relief to Grow the Economy and Create Jobs
American Competitiveness in a Global Economy
Reining in Out-of-Control Spending, Balancing the Budget, and Ensuring Sound Monetary Policy
Balancing the Budget
Inflation and the Federal Reserve
Ending the Housing Crisis and Expanding Opportunities for Homeownership
Rebuilding Homeownership
Infrastructure: Building the Future
More American Jobs, Higher Wages, and A Better Standard of Living
Supporting our foreign friends like Israel
anti abortion

There are other things.

Basically doing the opposite of what Obummer has been doing.

Granted they are not always successful and that’s where the cry “they’re all the same” comes from. But in reality the two parties are in fact very different. But various circumstances play out to where occasionally they look very much alike. For example, when a good republican President has to deal with the House and Senate being controlled by democrats. There are other circumstances as well. But rest assured the two parties are very much different almost polar opposites on most things.

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Was the continuation of the Bush tax cuts an opposite policy?
How about no prosecution of the big banksters who almost brought down the entire economy?
Out of control spending? Can’t wait till they cut the military budget.
And tax cuts Do Not create jobs. If that were true were are all the jobs?
How does one rebuild the infrastructure when those who benefit from it(corporations)don’t even pay taxes?
balancing the budget is a ruse. A nation’s economy doesn’t function the same as a households. A basic misunderstanding of economics.

And above all this is not an issue between Dems and Reps but one between classes. Both the Dems and Reps are essentially controlled by corporate interests for their benefit not the publics. Seriously wake up!

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[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
ZEB wrote:

Job Creation: Getting Americans Back to Work
Small Business and Entrepreneurship
Tax Relief to Grow the Economy and Create Jobs
American Competitiveness in a Global Economy
Reining in Out-of-Control Spending, Balancing the Budget, and Ensuring Sound Monetary Policy
Balancing the Budget
Inflation and the Federal Reserve
Ending the Housing Crisis and Expanding Opportunities for Homeownership
Rebuilding Homeownership
Infrastructure: Building the Future
More American Jobs, Higher Wages, and A Better Standard of Living
Supporting our foreign friends like Israel
anti abortion

There are other things.

Basically doing the opposite of what Obummer has been doing.

Granted they are not always successful and that’s where the cry “they’re all the same” comes from. But in reality the two parties are in fact very different. But various circumstances play out to where occasionally they look very much alike. For example, when a good republican President has to deal with the House and Senate being controlled by democrats. There are other circumstances as well. But rest assured the two parties are very much different almost polar opposites on most things.

Was the continuation of the Bush tax cuts an opposite policy?[/quote]

I want you to sit down for this one because it’s going to be a real shocker.
Ready? Obama raised taxes! I know this so very painfully well. So yeah he is doing the opposite of what he’s supposed to do.

Ha ha I always like it when folks say that one. How freakin silly.

Yes, I agree under Obama (and others) the US govt has spiraled out of control.

Again, Obummer raised taxes on the very folks who are responsible for creating jobs. Every time a small business person pays an extra 100-k (or more) in taxes that money is no longer there to give raises to their employees, or to hire more people.

It’s not a difficult concept to understand if you would let go of your core socialist beliefs that the only way someone gets ahead is if money is stolen from someone who earned it.

You probably took psychology 101 right? Remember this part: When a behavior is rewarded it is often repeated. Well, that means that when we pay someone for doing nothing guess what? Yeah…no incentive to find a job, or start a business. Why should he the Government is taking care of him. Then what happens to the economy?

You see this stuff isn’t rocket science. It’s more like the A B C’s. But, sadly some people still don’t get it. And those people are filled with crazy thoughts handed to them by the left who are pandering for votes.

We have one of the highest corporate tax systems in the world. But…you knew that didn’t you? Sure you did.

Tis not I who needs to awaken to the realities of our economic structure. You seem to hate capitalism. I could guess why but it only be a guess.

Anyway, it must be frustrating to get out of bed each morning knowing in your heart of hearts that no matter how much you rant and rave…capitalism isn’t going anywhere. Obummer’s term will soon be up and the assault on those who succeed in this country will be over. We will have a new republican President and if he, or she, is a good republican President will start to unwind the terrible mess created by Obama, certainly our worst modern day President.

Granted, it will take some time to unwind both the foreign and domestic mess that Obama created but I’m an optimist and I believe it can be done…if the right republican man or woman is elected.

So, smile you have the same opportunity that anyone else does in this great country of ours (I’m full of patriotism today for some reason:).

I will give you something for free:

(Only) 4 of Zeb’s rules for success (there are more):

  1. Try to look at things with positive expectations (I’ve noticed through the years that the farther someone is to the left the more negative that they are. Not always but usually).

  2. Work not only hard, but smart as well

  3. Create a positive goal for yourself and not just career wise but in ever part of your life.

  4. Create good work, and life habits through discipline (at first). But once achieved a habit is the final stop before success…or defeat depending on what habits you’ve created in your life.

Okay there’s more but my wife is bugging me to get off the computer and get back to our barbecue.

And happy 4th of July! And smile if you are living in the United States of America you are living in the greatest country on earth (in fact so great try as he might Obama can’t even ruin it…permanently.)

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First month Republican nominee poll from Breitbart.

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[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

Both the Dems and Reps are essentially controlled by corporate interests for their benefit not the publics. Seriously wake up![/quote]

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Zep’s back, hurrah…

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Gives a whole new meaning to “keeping the media on a leash.” The Clinton campaign ropes off the media into a virtual walking animal pen.

This is a good indication of how she will treat the media should she win the election, and it’s fucking disgusting. Any reporter who went along with this shit should be forced to wear a Kotex on their head.

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[quote]MaximusB wrote:

Gives a whole new meaning to “keeping the media on a leash.” The Clinton campaign ropes off the media into a virtual walking animal pen.

This is a good indication of how she will treat the media should she win the election, and it’s fucking disgusting. Any reporter who went along with this shit should be forced to wear a Kotex on their head. [/quote]

I’m guessing They did this for two reasons. The first and most important is her handlers do not want her fielding questions on illegal contributions, the Clinton “charity” Benghazi etc. The second is they know she does not do well when fired upon with a litany of questions from the press. She freezes up gets nervous and says things she shouldn’t, as she did at the Benghazi hearings “What difference does it make now” regarding the death of the Ambassador and three others.

In short, she is not only a lousy candidate, I will go on record as saying she is the worst democrat to win the nomination (if she does get it) and run for President since Michael Dukakis (1988).

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Any of you guys seen this site

Basically shows that most Republican representatives fail when it comes to voting conservative.

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[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
Any of you guys seen this site

Basically shows that most Republican representatives fail when it comes to voting conservative.[/quote]

But democrats fail even worse.