The Next President of the United States: II

[quote]Wreckless wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Wreckless wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Wreckless wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Wreckless wrote:
Hilary for sure.
And then, with a bit off luck, Michelle. [/quote]

Yes, we need more corruption (Clintons) and more inexperienced left wing nuts like Obama and his woman.

Seriously, no matter how much of a died in the wool democrat that you might be you have to know that we can do better than this.[/quote]

We still remember your chimp.[/quote]

LOL…change your screen name to “mindless”[/quote]

No.
You can’t tell us “we can do better” when we still remember your chimp.
You want us to forget your best, he was the chimp. We remember him, and I will keep throwing him in your face.
Over and over again.
The chimp.
The liar.
He lied your country into a war. He wasted millions and got thousands killed.
Obama stopped the madness.
Even if Obama was the 2nd worst president in US history (and he isn’t), at least he stopped the madness of the worst president in US history.

The Chimp.
That one is on you.
You want us to forget.
We will never forget.

Never forget the madness.

Never.
[/quote]

Jesus you’re an idiot. [/quote]

Yes.
While criticizing the guy who is still cleaning up your guys mess, is very smart.[/quote]

I didn’t know when a person criticized a sitting President he also had to criticize his predecessor. News to me…

My statement still stands. You’re an idiot.

[quote]Wreckless wrote:

No.
You can’t tell us “we can do better” when we still remember your chimp.
You want us to forget your best, he was the chimp. We remember him, and I will keep throwing him in your face.
Over and over again.
The chimp.
The liar.
He lied your country into a war. He wasted millions and got thousands killed.
Obama stopped the madness.
Even if Obama was the 2nd worst president in US history (and he isn’t), at least he stopped the madness of the worst president in US history.

The Chimp.
That one is on you.
You want us to forget.
We will never forget.

Never forget the madness.

Never.
[/quote]

Are you 12 or one of those paid OFA types that go on otherwise adult and productive message boards to fling dumb irrelevant talking points around like they are either meaningful or applicable to the discussion?

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Wreckless wrote:

No.
You can’t tell us “we can do better” when we still remember your chimp.
You want us to forget your best, he was the chimp. We remember him, and I will keep throwing him in your face.
Over and over again.
The chimp.
The liar.
He lied your country into a war. He wasted millions and got thousands killed.
Obama stopped the madness.
Even if Obama was the 2nd worst president in US history (and he isn’t), at least he stopped the madness of the worst president in US history.

The Chimp.
That one is on you.
You want us to forget.
We will never forget.

Never forget the madness.

Never.
[/quote]

Are you 12 or one of those paid OFA types that go on otherwise adult and productive message boards to fling dumb irrelevant talking points around like they are either meaningful or applicable to the discussion?[/quote]

Option C: He or she is a European that just loves to talk out of his or her ass.

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Wreckless wrote:

No.
You can’t tell us “we can do better” when we still remember your chimp.
You want us to forget your best, he was the chimp. We remember him, and I will keep throwing him in your face.
Over and over again.
The chimp.
The liar.
He lied your country into a war. He wasted millions and got thousands killed.
Obama stopped the madness.
Even if Obama was the 2nd worst president in US history (and he isn’t), at least he stopped the madness of the worst president in US history.

The Chimp.
That one is on you.
You want us to forget.
We will never forget.

Never forget the madness.

Never.
[/quote]

Are you 12 or one of those paid OFA types that go on otherwise adult and productive message boards to fling dumb irrelevant talking points around like they are either meaningful or applicable to the discussion?[/quote]

Option C: He or she is a European that just loves to talk out of his or her ass. [/quote]

Boy that is so very true isn’t it?

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Wreckless wrote:

While criticizing the guy who is still cleaning up your guys mess, is very smart.[/quote]

Cleaning up his mess? By first pulling all the troops out of Iraq watching it fall piece by piece and now sending them back in? By turning his back on Israel? By negotiating with Iran to give them the bomb? By calling Isis a “JV team” ignoring them and now they’ve taken over lager amounts of territory? Calling global warming the worst threat to the US? This would actually be funny if I were watching it as a movie instead of reality playing itself out day after day.

Even many on the left are picking their chins up off the floor on how bad this guy is.

Obama is creating a catastrophe that the next President will have to deal with.

Obama literally gets nothing right.

I have to admit that I was wrong about him. I thought he was going to he horrible but he’s actually far worse than even I thought he’d be. He is a unique blend of inexperience, indecision and left wing nuttery that is unparalleled in Presidential history. In fact, that is a good place for you to begin if you really want to learn how bad Obama is. Pick up an unbiased history book and read how real Presidents have dealt with enemies of our country.

Please tell me what has he done correctly in the 6 1/2 years that he’s been on the job, or are you simply in love with him because of his lefty status?

[/quote]

Indeed, cleaning up his mess.
The chimp squandered Clintons surplus and left the economy in ruins.
And he started a war he couldn’t win.
That’s another fine mess he got you into.

Oh, and Obama did not only put an end to this madness.
He nailed Osama and affordable health care.
Only on your planet of the loons is that not good.

[quote]Wreckless wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Wreckless wrote:

While criticizing the guy who is still cleaning up your guys mess, is very smart.[/quote]

Cleaning up his mess? By first pulling all the troops out of Iraq watching it fall piece by piece and now sending them back in? By turning his back on Israel? By negotiating with Iran to give them the bomb? By calling Isis a “JV team” ignoring them and now they’ve taken over lager amounts of territory? Calling global warming the worst threat to the US? This would actually be funny if I were watching it as a movie instead of reality playing itself out day after day.

Even many on the left are picking their chins up off the floor on how bad this guy is.

Obama is creating a catastrophe that the next President will have to deal with.

Obama literally gets nothing right.

I have to admit that I was wrong about him. I thought he was going to he horrible but he’s actually far worse than even I thought he’d be. He is a unique blend of inexperience, indecision and left wing nuttery that is unparalleled in Presidential history. In fact, that is a good place for you to begin if you really want to learn how bad Obama is. Pick up an unbiased history book and read how real Presidents have dealt with enemies of our country.

Please tell me what has he done correctly in the 6 1/2 years that he’s been on the job, or are you simply in love with him because of his lefty status?

[/quote]

Indeed, cleaning up his mess.
The chimp squandered Clintons surplus and left the economy in ruins.
And he started a war he couldn’t win.
That’s another fine mess he got you into.

Oh, and Obama did not only put an end to this madness.
He nailed Osama and affordable health care.
Only on your planet of the loons is that not good.[/quote]

  1. The war he “started” was won until Obama took over and withdrew the troops. You should at least be able to keep up with recent history. You do realize that ISIS and other terror groups have grown under Obama because of his weak foreign policy.

  2. I agree he did one thing right in 6 1/2 years. He killed Osama Bin Laden. But, keep in mind that plan was underway during the Bush administration. Nonetheless, I give Obama credit that is one thing, the only thing, he has done correctly.

  3. Affordable health care? Ha ha…you call that good? A government take over of health care? It’s only good if you’re from a country that believes in socialism…like you. By the way about 68% of the country did not want, and still does not want Obama care. And I would not be surprised if it disappeared once a good republican President takes over.

Someone has a great sense of humor over here.

[quote]Wreckless wrote:
affordable health care.
[/quote]

Affordable health care?! AFFORDABLE health care?!?! HA! You’re a loon! The Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) didn’t do a GOD-DAMN THING to make health care affordable! It made insurance mandatory while also HEAVILY regulating the health insurance industry. It is mandatory health insurance, which does absolutely nothing to bring down the actual cost of health care. In fact, the experience of most of my patients is that health care now “feels” more expensive. Many (most really) pay more for their premiums, almost all pay higher deductibles, and most pay higher co-pays. Those are the lucky ones who can get an appointment with a doctor who accepts the crap that is now called insurance. Many doctors are going more cash-based and just don’t fool with this nonsense.

No, Obama certainly didn’t “nail” affordable health care, not by a long shot.

[quote]Dr J wrote:

[quote]Wreckless wrote:
affordable health care.
[/quote]

Affordable health care?! AFFORDABLE health care?!?! HA! You’re a loon! The Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) didn’t do a GOD-DAMN THING to make health care affordable! It made insurance mandatory while also HEAVILY regulating the health insurance industry. It is mandatory health insurance, which does absolutely nothing to bring down the actual cost of health care. In fact, the experience of most of my patients is that health care now “feels” more expensive. Many (most really) pay more for their premiums, almost all pay higher deductibles, and most pay higher co-pays. Those are the lucky ones who can get an appointment with a doctor who accepts the crap that is now called insurance. Many doctors are going more cash-based and just don’t fool with this nonsense.

No, Obama certainly didn’t “nail” affordable health care, not by a long shot.[/quote]

Ok, this is your opinion.
And on the opposite side, we have “the facts”.
But don’t let that bother you. After all, an opinion is like an ass. Everybody has one. I’m sure you are off that, being a doctor and all that.

[quote]Wreckless wrote:

[quote]Dr J wrote:

[quote]Wreckless wrote:
affordable health care.
[/quote]

Affordable health care?! AFFORDABLE health care?!?! HA! You’re a loon! The Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) didn’t do a GOD-DAMN THING to make health care affordable! It made insurance mandatory while also HEAVILY regulating the health insurance industry. It is mandatory health insurance, which does absolutely nothing to bring down the actual cost of health care. In fact, the experience of most of my patients is that health care now “feels” more expensive. Many (most really) pay more for their premiums, almost all pay higher deductibles, and most pay higher co-pays. Those are the lucky ones who can get an appointment with a doctor who accepts the crap that is now called insurance. Many doctors are going more cash-based and just don’t fool with this nonsense.

No, Obama certainly didn’t “nail” affordable health care, not by a long shot.[/quote]

Ok, this is your opinion.
And on the opposite side, we have “the facts”.
But don’t let that bother you. After all, an opinion is like an ass. Everybody has one. I’m sure you are off that, being a doctor and all that.[/quote]

The facts are, you can’t keep your doctor, you can’t keep your plan, and with all the exemptions and waivers, this does not resemble what was passed at all.

You have already been proven to be wrong when claiming the chimp sent us into Iraq, and you are proven to be wrong on this too.

The only thing you are proving, is the mileage on those Democratic kneepads.

Caught some of Fox’s Outnumbered today with Former NY Governor George Pataki. He’s one of the 99 Republican candidates. I really liked some of his ideas and the way he addressed questions on the couch. Especially opposed to Marco Rubio the other day who was clearly in “candidate” mode.

Some ideas that sparked my interest: His lifetime ban on lobbying. If you serve in a Gov’t position for at minimum 1 day you’re banned from being a lobbyist, his desire to dismantle common core, he also said he felt very confident that SS could be addressed without creating chaos.

Just wondering others opinions on him, TBH I know very little about him.

[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:
Caught some of Fox’s Outnumbered today with Former NY Governor George Pataki. He’s one of the 99 Republican candidates. I really liked some of his ideas and the way he addressed questions on the couch. Especially opposed to Marco Rubio the other day who was clearly in “candidate” mode.

Some ideas that sparked my interest: His lifetime ban on lobbying. If you serve in a Gov’t position for at minimum 1 day you’re banned from being a lobbyist, his desire to dismantle common core, he also said he felt very confident that SS could be addressed without creating chaos.

Just wondering others opinions on him, TBH I know very little about him.[/quote]

He was a good Governor a very nice guy and has very close to zero chance of capturing the nomination. Keep in mind who votes in the primaries. The far left in the democratic party and the far right in the republican party. A moderate like Pataki stands no chance. Maybe he’s running to get chosen as VP. Then again why would anyone choose him for VP? New York has not voted for a republican Presidential candidate since 1984 when Ronald Reagan swept every state except Minnesota and the District of Columbia.

But…I do like George Pataki and had the privilege of meeting and speaking with him back in the 90’s when he was a Governor.

This is why you don’t want automatic voter registration.

Any thoughts on John Kasich from Ohio ?

[quote]Wreckless wrote:

[quote]Dr J wrote:

[quote]Wreckless wrote:
affordable health care.
[/quote]

Affordable health care?! AFFORDABLE health care?!?! HA! You’re a loon! The Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) didn’t do a GOD-DAMN THING to make health care affordable! It made insurance mandatory while also HEAVILY regulating the health insurance industry. It is mandatory health insurance, which does absolutely nothing to bring down the actual cost of health care. In fact, the experience of most of my patients is that health care now “feels” more expensive. Many (most really) pay more for their premiums, almost all pay higher deductibles, and most pay higher co-pays. Those are the lucky ones who can get an appointment with a doctor who accepts the crap that is now called insurance. Many doctors are going more cash-based and just don’t fool with this nonsense.

No, Obama certainly didn’t “nail” affordable health care, not by a long shot.[/quote]

Ok, this is your opinion.
And on the opposite side, we have “the facts”.
But don’t let that bother you. After all, an opinion is like an ass. Everybody has one. I’m sure you are off that, being a doctor and all that.[/quote]

LOL at the irony of some guy in Europe with zero clue as to the inner workings of our insurance system telling a doctor that lives with it day in, day out, year in, year out about “facts” that he has, of which the doctor is unaware.

You don’t understand the first thing about it. Hell, you can support the damn thing and still understand the problems at hand. But to comment knowledgeably about it requires some deeper thinking than random insults.

I guess O’Malley hasn’t been to MD lately:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/06/22/omalley-single-life-worth-more-than-all-guns-in-united-states/

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Any thoughts on John Kasich from Ohio ?[/quote]

First thought, good Governor, very good man and he should be on the ticket if the republicans want to win big.

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Any thoughts on John Kasich from Ohio ?[/quote]

I like him best out of all the current (and possible) Republican candidates. I know of him from his days as an OH Rep and liked him then as well.

I think he’s better qualified than any other R candidate, but unfortunately, occupies the same space on the R ticket as Jeb and people seem to like Jeb more.