The Next President of the United States: II

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
A new CNN Poll has Hillary underwater for the first time.

Interesting numbers Max.

The most telling is the question "who represents the past/future. And we find Marco Rubio with the best numbers of who represents the future and Hillary Clinton with the best numbers on who represents the past. If those numbers stay consistent and Rubio is the nominee he will bury Hillary Clinton in a general election. But, not just for that one reason. Scandal will also play a part in Hillary’s defeat along with her age (and looking every year of it) and a few other things. Rubio is one of those candidates that Hillary cannot beat. There are others of course.

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]magick wrote:
ZEB wrote:

Job Creation: Getting Americans Back to Work
Small Business and Entrepreneurship
Tax Relief to Grow the Economy and Create Jobs
American Competitiveness in a Global Economy
Reining in Out-of-Control Spending, Balancing the Budget, and Ensuring Sound Monetary Policy
Balancing the Budget
Inflation and the Federal Reserve
Ending the Housing Crisis and Expanding Opportunities for Homeownership
Rebuilding Homeownership
Infrastructure: Building the Future
More American Jobs, Higher Wages, and A Better Standard of Living
Supporting our foreign friends like Israel
anti abortion

There are other things.

Eh, the only one that is actually concrete among that list is anti-abortion. The rest read like sound-bites.[/quote]

Not true! There has only been one republican President that has raised taxes in modern times all the others lowered taxes. On the other side of the isle every democrat President has raised taxes in modern times. See…that is one big difference that you fail to acknowledge. Possibly because you are unaware. I don’t know your age but I’ve probably been mega paying taxes longer than you have been alive and I fully understand the ramifications of electing democrats to the oval office. Forgive me if I assumed you to be younger than you are. But, everyone, even those who are staunchly democrat are aware that democrats never met a tax they didn’t like or one they didn’t want to hike.

[quote]ZEB wrote:
Granted they are not always successful and that’s where the cry “they’re all the same” comes from. But in reality the two parties are in fact very different. But various circumstances play out to where occasionally they look very much alike. For example, when a good republican President has to deal with the House and Senate being controlled by democrats. There are other circumstances as well. But rest assured the two parties are very much different almost polar opposites on most things.

Then why did Bush II and the Republican House/Senate enact No Child Left Behind, created the TSA and Dept. of Homeland Security, and the Patriot Act?

Why did Mitch Mcconnell and a bunch of Republican senators try to get the Patriot Act refunded?[/quote]

This is a matter of your false perception, not reality. Republicans are well known to be strong on national security affairs. They like to build up the military etc. Therefore, the Patriot Act is almost in lock step with what republicans would do in the face of terror attacks. Remember strong defense has always been a republican issue.

The question that you should be asking instead is this: “Why did Obama go along with the Patriot Act and other such things enacted by a republican President?”

In other words how come democrats are acting like republicans? Not the other way around…

By the way I don’t like the Patriot Act either.
[/quote]

Republicans are for any national security in general. Dems are only for security of internal threats, you can’t have a nice collective society if some people don’t follow your rules.

Huge surprise here:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Huge surprise here:

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As I have said Carson is dead in the water. He will not win blacks to the republican party as many have been feeding off the democrats lie for generations. In fact, since 1964 when LBJ began the war on poverty by handing billions of dollars to those who (in the end) refused to work. Those who bought into this both black and white are now convinced that the government owes them something. Entitlement cannot be broken by a promise of jobs, how silly. And this goes for every race and nationality that has been handed something for doing nothing. Who would want to give that up? Most won’t. Ben Carson has no hope of winning the nomination he’s simply sucking up air time from those who are most likely to carry the republican banner to victory.

Carson’s skills are so specialized, he should stay as a gifted neurosurgeon. He has even less political experience as Obama.

Hilary for sure.
And then, with a bit off luck, Michelle.

[quote]Wreckless wrote:
Hilary for sure.
And then, with a bit off luck, Michelle. [/quote]

Yes, we need more corruption (Clintons) and more inexperienced left wing nuts like Obama and his woman.

Seriously, no matter how much of a died in the wool democrat that you might be you have to know that we can do better than this.

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Carson’s skills are so specialized, he should stay as a gifted neurosurgeon. He has even less political experience as Obama.[/quote]

I agree with you. He has much to offer in terms of truth telling to the black community. They’ve been lied to for so very long that what Carson has to say can at least give them a different view on things. While they might not buy into it for now it does give them food for thought. And also plants seeds in the minds of their children who have not yet been fully indoctrinated into the something for nothing lifestyle.

Carson needs to do speaking tours and stay away from Presidential politics.

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Wreckless wrote:
Hilary for sure.
And then, with a bit off luck, Michelle. [/quote]

Yes, we need more corruption (Clintons) and more inexperienced left wing nuts like Obama and his woman.

Seriously, no matter how much of a died in the wool democrat that you might be you have to know that we can do better than this.[/quote]

We still remember your chimp.

[quote]Wreckless wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Wreckless wrote:
Hilary for sure.
And then, with a bit off luck, Michelle. [/quote]

Yes, we need more corruption (Clintons) and more inexperienced left wing nuts like Obama and his woman.

Seriously, no matter how much of a died in the wool democrat that you might be you have to know that we can do better than this.[/quote]

We still remember your chimp.[/quote]

Ya, you tell em!

[quote]Wreckless wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Wreckless wrote:
Hilary for sure.
And then, with a bit off luck, Michelle. [/quote]

Yes, we need more corruption (Clintons) and more inexperienced left wing nuts like Obama and his woman.

Seriously, no matter how much of a died in the wool democrat that you might be you have to know that we can do better than this.[/quote]

We still remember your chimp.[/quote]

LOL…change your screen name to “mindless”

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Wreckless wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Wreckless wrote:
Hilary for sure.
And then, with a bit off luck, Michelle. [/quote]

Yes, we need more corruption (Clintons) and more inexperienced left wing nuts like Obama and his woman.

Seriously, no matter how much of a died in the wool democrat that you might be you have to know that we can do better than this.[/quote]

We still remember your chimp.[/quote]

LOL…change your screen name to “mindless”[/quote]

No.
You can’t tell us “we can do better” when we still remember your chimp.
You want us to forget your best, he was the chimp. We remember him, and I will keep throwing him in your face.
Over and over again.
The chimp.
The liar.
He lied your country into a war. He wasted millions and got thousands killed.
Obama stopped the madness.
Even if Obama was the 2nd worst president in US history (and he isn’t), at least he stopped the madness of the worst president in US history.

The Chimp.
That one is on you.
You want us to forget.
We will never forget.

Never forget the madness.

Never.

[quote]Wreckless wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Wreckless wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Wreckless wrote:
Hilary for sure.
And then, with a bit off luck, Michelle. [/quote]

Yes, we need more corruption (Clintons) and more inexperienced left wing nuts like Obama and his woman.

Seriously, no matter how much of a died in the wool democrat that you might be you have to know that we can do better than this.[/quote]

We still remember your chimp.[/quote]

LOL…change your screen name to “mindless”[/quote]

No.
You can’t tell us “we can do better” when we still remember your chimp.
You want us to forget your best, he was the chimp. We remember him, and I will keep throwing him in your face.
Over and over again.
The chimp.
The liar.
He lied your country into a war. He wasted millions and got thousands killed.
Obama stopped the madness.
Even if Obama was the 2nd worst president in US history (and he isn’t), at least he stopped the madness of the worst president in US history.

The Chimp.
That one is on you.
You want us to forget.
We will never forget.

Never forget the madness.

Never.
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But the chimp did not act alone.

"Handing Bush a major victory, the Democratic-led Senate voted 77-23 for a war powers resolution negotiated between the White House and congressional leaders backing a possible use of force to rid Iraq of suspected weapons of mass destruction and possibly oust Iraqi President Saddam Hussein.

The Republican-led House earlier on Thursday passed it 296-133."

58% of Democratic Senators voted for the resolution. Some notable yes votes included Harry Reid, Dianne Feinstein, Hillary Clinton, Chuck Shumer, and John Kerry

Were Democrats chimps too ?

[quote]Wreckless wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Wreckless wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Wreckless wrote:
Hilary for sure.
And then, with a bit off luck, Michelle. [/quote]

Yes, we need more corruption (Clintons) and more inexperienced left wing nuts like Obama and his woman.

Seriously, no matter how much of a died in the wool democrat that you might be you have to know that we can do better than this.[/quote]

We still remember your chimp.[/quote]

LOL…change your screen name to “mindless”[/quote]

No.
You can’t tell us “we can do better” when we still remember your chimp.
You want us to forget your best, he was the chimp. We remember him, and I will keep throwing him in your face.
Over and over again.
The chimp.
The liar.
He lied your country into a war. He wasted millions and got thousands killed.
Obama stopped the madness.
Even if Obama was the 2nd worst president in US history (and he isn’t), at least he stopped the madness of the worst president in US history.

The Chimp.
That one is on you.
You want us to forget.
We will never forget.

Never forget the madness.

Never.
[/quote]

Jesus you’re an idiot.

http://obamalies.net/list-of-obamas-failures

If nothing else everyone please drop down to the video.

Some of those are kinda silly ZEB…

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Wreckless wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Wreckless wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Wreckless wrote:
Hilary for sure.
And then, with a bit off luck, Michelle. [/quote]

Yes, we need more corruption (Clintons) and more inexperienced left wing nuts like Obama and his woman.

Seriously, no matter how much of a died in the wool democrat that you might be you have to know that we can do better than this.[/quote]

We still remember your chimp.[/quote]

LOL…change your screen name to “mindless”[/quote]

No.
You can’t tell us “we can do better” when we still remember your chimp.
You want us to forget your best, he was the chimp. We remember him, and I will keep throwing him in your face.
Over and over again.
The chimp.
The liar.
He lied your country into a war. He wasted millions and got thousands killed.
Obama stopped the madness.
Even if Obama was the 2nd worst president in US history (and he isn’t), at least he stopped the madness of the worst president in US history.

The Chimp.
That one is on you.
You want us to forget.
We will never forget.

Never forget the madness.

Never.
[/quote]

Jesus you’re an idiot. [/quote]

Yes.
While criticizing the guy who is still cleaning up your guys mess, is very smart.

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Some of those are kinda silly ZEB…[/quote]

I agree just like the ones that they hung on GW back in the day. The difference is the media was out to bring down GW and in Obama’s case the media cannot stick their noses any further up his asshole. He is a left wing nut who happens to be black. That is the perfect scenario for the liberal media. If he were a white republican he would have been impeached by now.

[quote]Wreckless wrote:

While criticizing the guy who is still cleaning up your guys mess, is very smart.[/quote]

Cleaning up his mess? By first pulling all the troops out of Iraq watching it fall piece by piece and now sending them back in? By turning his back on Israel? By negotiating with Iran to give them the bomb? By calling Isis a “JV team” ignoring them and now they’ve taken over lager amounts of territory? Calling global warming the worst threat to the US? This would actually be funny if I were watching it as a movie instead of reality playing itself out day after day.

Even many on the left are picking their chins up off the floor on how bad this guy is.

Obama is creating a catastrophe that the next President will have to deal with.

Obama literally gets nothing right.

I have to admit that I was wrong about him. I thought he was going to he horrible but he’s actually far worse than even I thought he’d be. He is a unique blend of inexperience, indecision and left wing nuttery that is unparalleled in Presidential history. In fact, that is a good place for you to begin if you really want to learn how bad Obama is. Pick up an unbiased history book and read how real Presidents have dealt with enemies of our country.

Please tell me what has he done correctly in the 6 1/2 years that he’s been on the job, or are you simply in love with him because of his lefty status?