The Most Impressive, Well-Rounded Athletes?

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[quote]Nards wrote:

[quote]PimpBot5000 wrote:

[quote]02Thief wrote:

LOL! No one in Australia drinks Fosters.

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Want to piss off an Australian? Insist that they drink Fosters.

It’s a scientific fact that they will vehemently deny it, and often even become angry at the assertion.

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Indeed. It’s actually in their taps there, like the kitchen faucet. They just call it water now, so they’re not even aware that when we say they drink Fosters that they do. If an Australian sees water coming out of a tap anywhere else on earth they ask why the water is so clear.

Also, no matter what size knife you pull out, and Australian can automatically pull one out that’s bigger. Even women and children. And even if they weren’t carrying one when you pulled out yours. They don’t even know how it happens either…it’s like some sort of magic.[/quote]

That’s not a noif. This. Is a noif.

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[quote]gangstpmp3 wrote:
I think with the prevalence of PED’s in the NFL contributes to some of the freaks that we see. The reason I bring it up is because I don’t think basketball players use as much as football players. Just something to consider.
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Sorry but these guys are screened more than pilots, does it occur yes, does it occur to what you are alluding to is ludicrous

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[quote]lbraga wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]furo wrote:

On a side note, what is the strength requirement of basketball? I know next to nothing about the sport, and obviously a lot of players are strong looking guys, I’m just interested in how it benefits them.[/quote]

It’s much higher than most would think. The amount of holding, shoving and hitting that goes on in competitive basketball is insane. The difference is, basketball is a contact sport. Football is a collision sport. So, football players need considerably more body armor (muscle) to withstand the sports demands. But, basketball is no joke, especially for someone with an aggressive game, like Iverson or Dwyane Wade. Why do you think so many older guys start to develop and rely on the mid range and outside game? It’s not so much that they’ve lost a step as it’s a measure of self preservation.[/quote]

you’re talking as if football was just sprinting and catching the ball. every position (even the qb at times) has to do some serious blocking. i’d love to see a basketball player try to “out-shove” a football player, even a WR.

most corners would drop any BB player on their ass, let alone LB, OL, FBs.

Football strength >>> Basketball strength.[/quote]

Oh, no question. Didn’t mean for it to sound like I disagreed with that. The op asked about all around athleticism, not combine performance. I’ve played ball with several NBA & NFL players. Hell, during their off-season I play ball with most of the Texans starting defense a couple of times a week. I’m not saying these dudes aren’t athletic. I’m saying that in terms of ALL AROUND ATHLETIC ABILITY, basketball players have 'em beat.

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[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]lbraga wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]furo wrote:

On a side note, what is the strength requirement of basketball? I know next to nothing about the sport, and obviously a lot of players are strong looking guys, I’m just interested in how it benefits them.[/quote]

It’s much higher than most would think. The amount of holding, shoving and hitting that goes on in competitive basketball is insane. The difference is, basketball is a contact sport. Football is a collision sport. So, football players need considerably more body armor (muscle) to withstand the sports demands. But, basketball is no joke, especially for someone with an aggressive game, like Iverson or Dwyane Wade. Why do you think so many older guys start to develop and rely on the mid range and outside game? It’s not so much that they’ve lost a step as it’s a measure of self preservation.[/quote]

you’re talking as if football was just sprinting and catching the ball. every position (even the qb at times) has to do some serious blocking. i’d love to see a basketball player try to “out-shove” a football player, even a WR.

most corners would drop any BB player on their ass, let alone LB, OL, FBs.

Football strength >>> Basketball strength.[/quote]

Oh, no question. Didn’t mean for it to sound like I disagreed with that. The op asked about all around athleticism, not combine performance. I’ve played ball with several NBA & NFL players. Hell, during their off-season I play ball with most of the Texans starting defense a couple of times a week. I’m not saying these dudes aren’t athletic. I’m saying that in terms of ALL AROUND ATHLETIC ABILITY, basketball players have 'em beat.
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Okay WF names man or I am calling BS.

Still dont agree, but still respect your opinion.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]gangstpmp3 wrote:
I think with the prevalence of PED’s in the NFL contributes to some of the freaks that we see. The reason I bring it up is because I don’t think basketball players use as much as football players. Just something to consider.
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Sorry but these guys are screened more than pilots, does it occur yes, does it occur to what you are alluding to is ludicrous [/quote]

D, you’re being a li’l naive, brother. I’d bet over 90% of these dudes are juiced to the gills. 6’4", 270lb dudes don’t run 4.6 40’s without some “assistance”.

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[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]gangstpmp3 wrote:
I think with the prevalence of PED’s in the NFL contributes to some of the freaks that we see. The reason I bring it up is because I don’t think basketball players use as much as football players. Just something to consider.
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Sorry but these guys are screened more than pilots, does it occur yes, does it occur to what you are alluding to is ludicrous [/quote]

D, you’re being a li’l naive, brother. I’d bet over 90% of these dudes are juiced to the gills. 6’4", 270lb dudes don’t run 4.6 40’s without some “assistance”. [/quote]

WF you forget what I do for a living, I run drug screening for many fortune 500 companies in the US. Yes can it happen, yes can these guys try to cheat it. But sorry I just do not think it happens to the level people want to accuse. These are the elite athletes in the country for a whole nation these are the cream of the crop for 32 teams. Sorry as a guy on the inside I just do not see it as possible.

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I will add, to me this is guys like you and me who are gym rats and are jelly of the ability of these guys.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]lbraga wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]furo wrote:

On a side note, what is the strength requirement of basketball? I know next to nothing about the sport, and obviously a lot of players are strong looking guys, I’m just interested in how it benefits them.[/quote]

It’s much higher than most would think. The amount of holding, shoving and hitting that goes on in competitive basketball is insane. The difference is, basketball is a contact sport. Football is a collision sport. So, football players need considerably more body armor (muscle) to withstand the sports demands. But, basketball is no joke, especially for someone with an aggressive game, like Iverson or Dwyane Wade. Why do you think so many older guys start to develop and rely on the mid range and outside game? It’s not so much that they’ve lost a step as it’s a measure of self preservation.[/quote]

you’re talking as if football was just sprinting and catching the ball. every position (even the qb at times) has to do some serious blocking. i’d love to see a basketball player try to “out-shove” a football player, even a WR.

most corners would drop any BB player on their ass, let alone LB, OL, FBs.

Football strength >>> Basketball strength.[/quote]

Oh, no question. Didn’t mean for it to sound like I disagreed with that. The op asked about all around athleticism, not combine performance. I’ve played ball with several NBA & NFL players. Hell, during their off-season I play ball with most of the Texans starting defense a couple of times a week. I’m not saying these dudes aren’t athletic. I’m saying that in terms of ALL AROUND ATHLETIC ABILITY, basketball players have 'em beat.
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Okay WF names man or I am calling BS.

Still dont agree, but still respect your opinion.[/quote]

Why would I lie? You’re in Houston. Go to the 24 on Chimney Rock and Westheimer between noon-2 Monday-Thursday. Never seen Cushing or Watts there, but just about everyone else you can think of goes. I’ve seen Slaton and some other offensive guys there, too.

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[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]lbraga wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]furo wrote:

On a side note, what is the strength requirement of basketball? I know next to nothing about the sport, and obviously a lot of players are strong looking guys, I’m just interested in how it benefits them.[/quote]

It’s much higher than most would think. The amount of holding, shoving and hitting that goes on in competitive basketball is insane. The difference is, basketball is a contact sport. Football is a collision sport. So, football players need considerably more body armor (muscle) to withstand the sports demands. But, basketball is no joke, especially for someone with an aggressive game, like Iverson or Dwyane Wade. Why do you think so many older guys start to develop and rely on the mid range and outside game? It’s not so much that they’ve lost a step as it’s a measure of self preservation.[/quote]

you’re talking as if football was just sprinting and catching the ball. every position (even the qb at times) has to do some serious blocking. i’d love to see a basketball player try to “out-shove” a football player, even a WR.

most corners would drop any BB player on their ass, let alone LB, OL, FBs.

Football strength >>> Basketball strength.[/quote]

Oh, no question. Didn’t mean for it to sound like I disagreed with that. The op asked about all around athleticism, not combine performance. I’ve played ball with several NBA & NFL players. Hell, during their off-season I play ball with most of the Texans starting defense a couple of times a week. I’m not saying these dudes aren’t athletic. I’m saying that in terms of ALL AROUND ATHLETIC ABILITY, basketball players have 'em beat.
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Okay WF names man or I am calling BS.

Still dont agree, but still respect your opinion.[/quote]

Why would I lie? You’re in Houston. Go to the 24 on Chimney Rock and Westheimer between noon-2 Monday-Thursday. Never seen Cushing or Watts there, but just about everyone else you can think of goes. I’ve seen Slaton and some other offensive guys there, too. [/quote]
WF not calling you a liar man, more just jelly on my part and fucking with you.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:
I will add, to me this is guys like you and me who are gym rats and are jelly of the ability of these guys.[/quote]

I’m not jealous of anyone. 2 major knee injuries deep and I can still out jump all those dudes. Check Genesis-ap website. Several of the Texans train there in the off-season and I still hold the gyms vert record. I didn’t make it 'cause I was a punk ass kid who was unwilling to make the necessary sacrifices, but I can still more than hold my own with these dudes athletically.

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[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
I will add, to me this is guys like you and me who are gym rats and are jelly of the ability of these guys.[/quote]

I’m not jealous of anyone. 2 major knee injuries deep and I can still out jump all those dudes. Check Genesis-ap website. Several of the Texans train there in the off-season and I still hold the gyms vert record. I didn’t make it 'cause I was a punk ass kid who was unwilling to make the necessary sacrifices, but I can still more than hold my own with these dudes athletically.[/quote]

Well I am and did you see the video of JJ Watt at his height and weight with a 55 inch box jump? Sorry man but that is elite.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]lbraga wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]furo wrote:

On a side note, what is the strength requirement of basketball? I know next to nothing about the sport, and obviously a lot of players are strong looking guys, I’m just interested in how it benefits them.[/quote]

It’s much higher than most would think. The amount of holding, shoving and hitting that goes on in competitive basketball is insane. The difference is, basketball is a contact sport. Football is a collision sport. So, football players need considerably more body armor (muscle) to withstand the sports demands. But, basketball is no joke, especially for someone with an aggressive game, like Iverson or Dwyane Wade. Why do you think so many older guys start to develop and rely on the mid range and outside game? It’s not so much that they’ve lost a step as it’s a measure of self preservation.[/quote]

you’re talking as if football was just sprinting and catching the ball. every position (even the qb at times) has to do some serious blocking. i’d love to see a basketball player try to “out-shove” a football player, even a WR.

most corners would drop any BB player on their ass, let alone LB, OL, FBs.

Football strength >>> Basketball strength.[/quote]

Oh, no question. Didn’t mean for it to sound like I disagreed with that. The op asked about all around athleticism, not combine performance. I’ve played ball with several NBA & NFL players. Hell, during their off-season I play ball with most of the Texans starting defense a couple of times a week. I’m not saying these dudes aren’t athletic. I’m saying that in terms of ALL AROUND ATHLETIC ABILITY, basketball players have 'em beat.
[/quote]
Okay WF names man or I am calling BS.

Still dont agree, but still respect your opinion.[/quote]

Why would I lie? You’re in Houston. Go to the 24 on Chimney Rock and Westheimer between noon-2 Monday-Thursday. Never seen Cushing or Watts there, but just about everyone else you can think of goes. I’ve seen Slaton and some other offensive guys there, too. [/quote]
WF not calling you a liar man, more just jelly on my part and fucking with you. [/quote]

Haha, right on. That’s probably why they play at those times, so they don’t draw too big of a crowd.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
I will add, to me this is guys like you and me who are gym rats and are jelly of the ability of these guys.[/quote]

I’m not jealous of anyone. 2 major knee injuries deep and I can still out jump all those dudes. Check Genesis-ap website. Several of the Texans train there in the off-season and I still hold the gyms vert record. I didn’t make it 'cause I was a punk ass kid who was unwilling to make the necessary sacrifices, but I can still more than hold my own with these dudes athletically.[/quote]

Well I am and did you see the video of JJ Watt at his height and weight with a 55 inch box jump? Sorry man but that is elite.
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I didn’t, but for a guy his size that’s impressive. I think Watts is actually bigger than listed. I’ve never meet him, but he trains at the gym I just referenced. Google it and look asst the images. There’s a pic of him standing next to the owner (who’s 6’1" or so) and Watts is a full head taller. He might be a legit 6’8". Dude is a fucking beast.

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[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
I will add, to me this is guys like you and me who are gym rats and are jelly of the ability of these guys.[/quote]

I’m not jealous of anyone. 2 major knee injuries deep and I can still out jump all those dudes. Check Genesis-ap website. Several of the Texans train there in the off-season and I still hold the gyms vert record. I didn’t make it 'cause I was a punk ass kid who was unwilling to make the necessary sacrifices, but I can still more than hold my own with these dudes athletically.[/quote]

Well I am and did you see the video of JJ Watt at his height and weight with a 55 inch box jump? Sorry man but that is elite.
[/quote]

I didn’t, but for a guy his size that’s impressive. I think Watts is actually bigger than listed. I’ve never meet him, but he trains at the gym I just referenced. Google it and look asst the images. There’s a pic of him standing next to the owner (who’s 6’1" or so) and Watts is a full head taller. He might be a legit 6’8". Dude is a fucking beast.[/quote]

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^^^ on my phone, man, and for some reason I can’t watch YouTube vids posted on T-Nation? If anyone knows what’s up with that, help a brother out. I’ll go to YouTube and watch it though.

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You need to WF its fucking impressive

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:
You need to WF its fucking impressive[/quote]

That was impressive for a dude his size. Check the YouTube page of the gym I named. Somewhere in there there’s a vid with a few of the Texans doing an upper body workout, and Watt and Cushing are there. Watt makes Cushing look small. Dude is an ogre.

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Here are Watt’s stats. Yes he is a Beast. Watching him play right now

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For comparison, here are Jimmy Grahams combine stats

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[quote]02Thief wrote:
Wallabies all the way mate. All blacks are pussies.

There’s an outback steakhouse near where I live. Nowhere near the outback. Those bastards

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my condolences buddy, you guys just got whalloped by the french.
We didn’t do much better but like you we have a nut sack for a coach (probably worse)

In terms of overall skill i still think it’s sevens rugby, nothing requires as much fitness, agility and skill. Way more than football. I don’t mean to diss football but football is very task specific and not overall skill full.