The Many Sides to T-Nation

Bigger Stronger Leaner Competitive Bodybuilding
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[quote]scottiscool wrote:
I can’t really voice what I meant without going into a very long post about this so I’ll try to make it concise as possible.

I’ll just leave it at for relatively short periods of time, 6-8 weeks, I train all out looking for improvements each time in weight or reps. If I don’t improve I’ve lost that exercise and have to begin building on a new one. After the 6-8 weeks I relax a bit, and get back at it. The numbers DO NOT start where they ended at the end of the all out period, but they do end up progressing past them.

I’m doing everything in my power, eating recovery lowish volume etc to gain each time for my purpose of bodybuilding. And can we assume(please do so as to not get sidetracked here) that I’m using the same form from the start to finish.

Obviously the same thing will not likely work for a powerlifter or olympic lifter but lifting in the 7-10 range on compoound lifts allows me to progress(even if it’s just slightly) each time during those short periods. For example one lift that has been going up and up over a long period of time is dead lifts out of the rack, from about 365 to 500 for similar reps.

I do not do this movement every week, it cycles back through every two weeks. So can I make progress nearly every time it comes up, you bet. Was it totally linear? No not really, went from maybe 365 to 405, then started at 380 and got to 435, 405 up to 455 etc.

I’m about tapped out of this movement for now and will likely have to change it out for a row or deads from the floor. If I was doing five movements for back I’d likely not be able to improve so much but just doing 1 thickness movement allows me to continually make progress.

So my training(DC if you can’t tell) is totally based around progression over time. If I’m not going to improve or am run down I simply don’t go to the gym that day.

If you read all that thanks ha, I think it’s hard on a message board to really get opinions across when you don’t exactly know where someone is coming from or what they are refering to. [/quote]

           great thread gentlemen.

        I'm on the DC Train too now, as Scotti knows, and it's going to be a long productive and fun ride...

             not to mention a bit painful at times too...MWAHAHAHAHAHAH...

                good reading guys!
                   ToneBone
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[quote]scottiscool wrote:
I can’t really voice what I meant without going into a very long post about this so I’ll try to make it concise as possible.

I’ll just leave it at for relatively short periods of time, 6-8 weeks, I train all out looking for improvements each time in weight or reps. If I don’t improve I’ve lost that exercise and have to begin building on a new one. After the 6-8 weeks I relax a bit, and get back at it. The numbers DO NOT start where they ended at the end of the all out period, but they do end up progressing past them.

I’m doing everything in my power, eating recovery lowish volume etc to gain each time for my purpose of bodybuilding. And can we assume(please do so as to not get sidetracked here) that I’m using the same form from the start to finish.

Obviously the same thing will not likely work for a powerlifter or olympic lifter but lifting in the 7-10 range on compoound lifts allows me to progress(even if it’s just slightly) each time during those short periods. For example one lift that has been going up and up over a long period of time is dead lifts out of the rack, from about 365 to 500 for similar reps.

I do not do this movement every week, it cycles back through every two weeks. So can I make progress nearly every time it comes up, you bet. Was it totally linear? No not really, went from maybe 365 to 405, then started at 380 and got to 435, 405 up to 455 etc.

I’m about tapped out of this movement for now and will likely have to change it out for a row or deads from the floor. If I was doing five movements for back I’d likely not be able to improve so much but just doing 1 thickness movement allows me to continually make progress.

So my training(DC if you can’t tell) is totally based around progression over time. If I’m not going to improve or am run down I simply don’t go to the gym that day.

If you read all that thanks ha, I think it’s hard on a message board to really get opinions across when you don’t exactly know where someone is coming from or what they are refering to. [/quote]

I thought it sounded familiar when you mentioned dropping exercises.

Although the intensity of DC sounds interesting it sounds like it would make training sessions feel like a test, too much pressure and no fun. That said as I haven’t tried it I could be wrong, if your progressing then congratulations and keep it up.