[quote]kevinm1 wrote:
Interesting read it links to the directors interview about “racism” in the movie[/quote]
I don’t get it. The Indian director is racist for casting Indians?
And the main fire nation character is a complete anti-hero, not a villain.
Someone clue me in here?
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]kevinm1 wrote:
Interesting read it links to the directors interview about “racism” in the movie[/quote]
I don’t get it. The Indian director is racist for casting Indians?
And the main fire nation character is a complete anti-hero, not a villain.
Someone clue me in here?[/quote]
My guess is the interviewer assumed the gripe was that the villians were cast as dark, as opposed to the cast being whitewashed. Both fall under the general category of ‘racism’, but the interviewer forgot to do their homework WRT the details of ‘racist’ gripe.
Or maybe that was just what was on Shamalayana’s mind at the time.
[quote]Otep wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]kevinm1 wrote:
Interesting read it links to the directors interview about “racism” in the movie[/quote]
I don’t get it. The Indian director is racist for casting Indians?
And the main fire nation character is a complete anti-hero, not a villain.
Someone clue me in here?[/quote]
My guess is the interviewer assumed the gripe was that the villians were cast as dark, as opposed to the cast being whitewashed. Both fall under the general category of ‘racism’, but the interviewer forgot to do their homework WRT the details of ‘racist’ gripe.
Or maybe that was just what was on Shamalayana’s mind at the time.[/quote]
Anybody describing M.Night as ‘racist’ by casting Indians as the villains are going to be rightly exposed as the ignorant, politically correct fools that they are: the guy playing Firelord Ozai (Cliff Curtis) is Maori.
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]Otep wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]kevinm1 wrote:
Interesting read it links to the directors interview about “racism” in the movie[/quote]
I don’t get it. The Indian director is racist for casting Indians?
And the main fire nation character is a complete anti-hero, not a villain.
Someone clue me in here?[/quote]
My guess is the interviewer assumed the gripe was that the villians were cast as dark, as opposed to the cast being whitewashed. Both fall under the general category of ‘racism’, but the interviewer forgot to do their homework WRT the details of ‘racist’ gripe.
Or maybe that was just what was on Shamalayana’s mind at the time.[/quote]
Anybody describing M.Night as ‘racist’ by casting Indians as the villains are going to be rightly exposed as the ignorant, politically correct fools that they are: the guy playing Firelord Ozai (Cliff Curtis) is Maori.[/quote]
To my knowledge, the debate has been that what was originally an Asian concept now has cast whites in those spots as is usual Hollywood fashion. They are simply pointing out that having most of the white characters as the main GOOD GUYS makes it worse since the real Asians are now cast as “everyone else but the heroes”.
It does NOT seem to be about simply casting Indians as the Fire Nation.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]Otep wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]kevinm1 wrote:
Interesting read it links to the directors interview about “racism” in the movie[/quote]
I don’t get it. The Indian director is racist for casting Indians?
And the main fire nation character is a complete anti-hero, not a villain.
Someone clue me in here?[/quote]
My guess is the interviewer assumed the gripe was that the villians were cast as dark, as opposed to the cast being whitewashed. Both fall under the general category of ‘racism’, but the interviewer forgot to do their homework WRT the details of ‘racist’ gripe.
Or maybe that was just what was on Shamalayana’s mind at the time.[/quote]
Anybody describing M.Night as ‘racist’ by casting Indians as the villains are going to be rightly exposed as the ignorant, politically correct fools that they are: the guy playing Firelord Ozai (Cliff Curtis) is Maori.[/quote]
To my knowledge, the debate has been that what was originally an Asian concept now has cast whites in those spots as is usual Hollywood fashion. They are simply pointing out that having most of the white characters as the main GOOD GUYS makes it worse since the real Asians are now cast as “everyone else but the heroes”.
It does NOT seem to be about simply casting Indians as the Fire Nation.[/quote]
Right. That’s been the main argument since the kid chosen to play Aang was first revealed. But…the above link ignores that in favor of making an issue out of the fact that all the bad guys are Indians, when they aren’t. IMO, it’s better not to write an article playing up the racism angle if you can’t tell the difference between an Indian and a Maori. But then, some journalists never let the facts get in the way of a juicy story.
Here is M.Night’s full defense of his casting decisions:
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]Otep wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]kevinm1 wrote:
Interesting read it links to the directors interview about “racism” in the movie[/quote]
I don’t get it. The Indian director is racist for casting Indians?
And the main fire nation character is a complete anti-hero, not a villain.
Someone clue me in here?[/quote]
My guess is the interviewer assumed the gripe was that the villians were cast as dark, as opposed to the cast being whitewashed. Both fall under the general category of ‘racism’, but the interviewer forgot to do their homework WRT the details of ‘racist’ gripe.
Or maybe that was just what was on Shamalayana’s mind at the time.[/quote]
Anybody describing M.Night as ‘racist’ by casting Indians as the villains are going to be rightly exposed as the ignorant, politically correct fools that they are: the guy playing Firelord Ozai (Cliff Curtis) is Maori.[/quote]
To my knowledge, the debate has been that what was originally an Asian concept now has cast whites in those spots as is usual Hollywood fashion. They are simply pointing out that having most of the white characters as the main GOOD GUYS makes it worse since the real Asians are now cast as “everyone else but the heroes”.
It does NOT seem to be about simply casting Indians as the Fire Nation.[/quote]
Right. That’s been the main argument since the kid chosen to play Aang was first revealed. But…the above link ignores that in favor of making an issue out of the fact that all the bad guys are Indians, when they aren’t. IMO, it’s better not to write an article playing up the racism angle if you can’t tell the difference between an Indian and a Maori. But then, some journalists never let the facts get in the way of a juicy story.
Here is is M.Night’s full defense of his casting decisions:
I would say he gives a pretty good defense of his decisions.
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]Otep wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]kevinm1 wrote:
Interesting read it links to the directors interview about “racism” in the movie[/quote]
I don’t get it. The Indian director is racist for casting Indians?
And the main fire nation character is a complete anti-hero, not a villain.
Someone clue me in here?[/quote]
My guess is the interviewer assumed the gripe was that the villians were cast as dark, as opposed to the cast being whitewashed. Both fall under the general category of ‘racism’, but the interviewer forgot to do their homework WRT the details of ‘racist’ gripe.
Or maybe that was just what was on Shamalayana’s mind at the time.[/quote]
Anybody describing M.Night as ‘racist’ by casting Indians as the villains are going to be rightly exposed as the ignorant, politically correct fools that they are: the guy playing Firelord Ozai (Cliff Curtis) is Maori.[/quote]
To my knowledge, the debate has been that what was originally an Asian concept now has cast whites in those spots as is usual Hollywood fashion. They are simply pointing out that having most of the white characters as the main GOOD GUYS makes it worse since the real Asians are now cast as “everyone else but the heroes”.
It does NOT seem to be about simply casting Indians as the Fire Nation.[/quote]
Right. That’s been the main argument since the kid chosen to play Aang was first revealed. But…the above link ignores that in favor of making an issue out of the fact that all the bad guys are Indians, when they aren’t. IMO, it’s better not to write an article playing up the racism angle if you can’t tell the difference between an Indian and a Maori. But then, some journalists never let the facts get in the way of a juicy story.
Here is is M.Night’s full defense of his casting decisions:
He did a very good job of explaining the decisions he made…but he also leaves himself open to more criticism because if he is going to go that far at making it culturally diverse…then why not include every major race on the planet? He will simply not be able to please all people with this.
I like his decision to make the Air Nomads look racially mixed. I am actually even more hyped to see this now just to observe how he put this together.
As far as Uncle Iroh…at least he seems to get the gyst of the character. Iroh is the baddest mutherfucker of the group…aside from Ang.
Damn good article. This Thursday will tell the tale.
I’m off Friday. If anyone spoils this movie before then, I will drive to your house and force feed hamburgers to you until your insides burst…and then I will do push ups on the remains.
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]Otep wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]kevinm1 wrote:
Interesting read it links to the directors interview about “racism” in the movie[/quote]
I don’t get it. The Indian director is racist for casting Indians?
And the main fire nation character is a complete anti-hero, not a villain.
Someone clue me in here?[/quote]
My guess is the interviewer assumed the gripe was that the villians were cast as dark, as opposed to the cast being whitewashed. Both fall under the general category of ‘racism’, but the interviewer forgot to do their homework WRT the details of ‘racist’ gripe.
Or maybe that was just what was on Shamalayana’s mind at the time.[/quote]
Anybody describing M.Night as ‘racist’ by casting Indians as the villains are going to be rightly exposed as the ignorant, politically correct fools that they are: the guy playing Firelord Ozai (Cliff Curtis) is Maori.[/quote]
To my knowledge, the debate has been that what was originally an Asian concept now has cast whites in those spots as is usual Hollywood fashion. They are simply pointing out that having most of the white characters as the main GOOD GUYS makes it worse since the real Asians are now cast as “everyone else but the heroes”.
It does NOT seem to be about simply casting Indians as the Fire Nation.[/quote]
Right. That’s been the main argument since the kid chosen to play Aang was first revealed. But…the above link ignores that in favor of making an issue out of the fact that all the bad guys are Indians, when they aren’t. IMO, it’s better not to write an article playing up the racism angle if you can’t tell the difference between an Indian and a Maori. But then, some journalists never let the facts get in the way of a juicy story.
Here is M.Night’s full defense of his casting decisions:
That was an interesting read. They also have the first peek at Momo in that video.
“Fans of the Nickelodeon cartoon will be pleased to see how similar to the anime incarnations both Momo and Appa are, as well as noticing familiar scenes (for example, Kataraâ??s less than perfect water-bending backfiring on her brother, Sokka). With any luck the entire film will stay as true to the cartoon series as the clips and trailers indicate. Watch it now.”
So it will have the humor of the show.
^until the push up part, that did not sound like a threat
I’m going to the Midnight showing, and honestly Kitara is probably the most powerful character in the series because of her ability to “Blood Bend” even without the full moon. So basically she could probably make all the water in your body turn to ice destroying your tissue and on the cellular level.
/Geek moment
[quote]Professor X wrote:
As far as Uncle Iroh…at least he seems to get the gyst of the character. Iroh is the baddest mutherfucker of the group…aside from Ang.[/quote]
The guy cast as Iroh has my vote of confidence: he played Yinsen in Iron Man (the scientist who helped Stark build the MK 1 armour and escape from the Ten Rings encampment)…very solid character actor.
[quote]Pootie Tang wrote:
I’m going to the Midnight showing, and honestly Kitara is probably the most powerful character in the series because of her ability to “Blood Bend” even without the full moon. So basically she could probably make all the water in your body turn to ice destroying your tissue and on the cellular level.
/Geek moment[/quote]
I wanted to say toph was the strongest outside of ang her or the earth king. But you make a valid point withe blood bending, also one of the creapiest cartoon episodes of a kids show of all times! Hope they find a way to add the story in the movie.
[quote]Pootie Tang wrote:
I’m going to the Midnight showing, and honestly Kitara is probably the most powerful character in the series because of her ability to “Blood Bend” even without the full moon. So basically she could probably make all the water in your body turn to ice destroying your tissue and on the cellular level.
/Geek moment[/quote]
hax, thats what blood bending is.
Fire Bending FTW
From the indiemoviesonline.com interview:
Huh? What Asian roles are going to Whitey? Sokka and Katara seem more Inuit in the cartoon, and Aang very well could be caucasian. There’s enough actual racism in the world to warrant not trying to find some where it doesn’t exist.
Since Toph can metal bend, would it be possible that she could blood bend as well…what with all the iron present in blood?
[quote]Ronsauce wrote:
Since Toph can metal bend, would it be possible that she could blood bend as well…what with all the iron present in blood? [/quote]
Like Magneto
[quote]Ronsauce wrote:
From the indiemoviesonline.com interview:
Huh? What Asian roles are going to Whitey? Sokka and Katara seem more Inuit in the cartoon, and Aang very well could be caucasian. There’s enough actual racism in the world to warrant not trying to find some where it doesn’t exist.
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There isn’t one character on that whole show that was portrayed as “white”. “black” or “hispanic”. I do agree that Katara and the water tribe came across as eskimo more than anything else. However, he also made the choice to create a more culturally diverse movie…which for some reason only included certain races.
I think any cries of him being racist are over the top…but I also think one should expect the kind of criticism he is getting since he decided to neither stay true to the source material NOR choose to simply include all races if that was his goal.
I’m not saying Aang was white, but it’s not out of the realm of possibility that he was. He certainly looked white to me. Him being a monk doesn’t mean he was definitely not portrayed as white.
He seems to be doing a fair job.
The concept of the original show was Asian Mythology Based, but not a show made in an asian country. It is a make believe world such as “Conan” or The “Lord of the Ring” books. So when looking at the characters some look darker than others some seem more Asian based than others.
And even though there are some Characters with evil traits the fire lord and many of his Generals. I never seen the Fire Nation as a purly evil people. I’m curious to see how the movie pans out since he decided to make the movie a multicultural showcase (kinda wished he had not mentioned that because it will just give rise to people who want to nit pic at what they see or wont see in the movie).
Now did I miss something or did he write that the Earth kingdom was the biggest and he was going to have it filled with mixed races thru out. OK now I’m looking to much into it.
I’ll find out thrusday when it comes out. I think Toph should be played by one of the Kardashians sisters.