Well Fellowship had a budget of 93 million dollars, this had a 150 million dollar budget. Also the fire benders couldn’t create their own fire? So they did Kung Fu instead. Once again M. Night fails
I’ll still watch the movie despite its negative reviews and we all still have the series to re-watch again and again. I do want to thank Professor X, it was because he talked about this show in another thread over a year ago that I got into it. I wish that they had done a fourth season, Book 4: Air, but the show was so good from start to end I guess I can’t gripe too much.
[quote]sardines12 wrote:
Well Fellowship had a budget of 93 million dollars, this had a 150 million dollar budget. Also the fire benders couldn’t create their own fire? So they did Kung Fu instead. Once again M. Night fails[/quote]
Not making their own fire wasn’t really an issue. It was a plot device. They had to show something that would indicate a true need for the comet and also to set apart Uncle Iroh from the others. he was able to create fire from nothing…and that scared the shit out of the other fire benders around him.
Let me put it like this…had this movie focused much more on Iroh and Zuko, found some real Asian actors for Katara and and a real comedian to play Sokka…added an hour to the running time and actually did some real character development…then this movie would have won.
Iroh and Zuko win in this. It was very clear what he was doing with those two characters…and Zuko was the only real character developed in this.
The explanation for the comet worked fine in the cartoon why change it? This movie failed everywhere,
I honestly feel the only way this movie wins is if
you let Michael DiMartino Bryan Konietzko co produce and cowrite
never allow M Night to touch this
get a respectable producer to do this
hire better actors
not change the story
make this a longer movie
film this in 2d only
Oh and one last thing what was with the weak ass scar on Zuko? That fucks up the whole dynamic between the firelord and his son which is a Huuge part of the story and Zuko’s motives.
[quote]sardines12 wrote:
Oh and one last thing what was with the weak ass scar on Zuko? That fucks up the whole dynamic between the firelord and his son which is a Huuge part of the story and Zuko’s motives.[/quote]
Is the scar simply not vivid enough on screen? The pictures I’ve seen look like what a burn scar looks like in real life. The TV series, by the virtue of animation, can take liberties with the scar making it more prodigious. Now, if they changed how and why Zuko got burned by his father then that truly would change the entire father/son dynamic. I thought one of the most powerful scenes in the animated series was when Zuko confronted his father and questions what kind of man Ozai is for entering a duel to the death with a child.
[quote]sardines12 wrote:
film this in 2d only[/quote]
That’s just it. It was filmed in 2d only, and the 3d was done in post as a shitty afterthought.
Is it that you think an Asian Katara would come off less whiny?
The main problem, IMO, is that the story was TOO long to do it justice without going in knowing you had to break it into parts. The lack of character development was simply due to not being able to pay attention to subtleties in character growth and development. It basically came across as a greatest highlights, reel to me.
X, said it needed to be at least 3 hours. I agree - if they were only trying to advance things as far as the Northern Water Tribe’s battle with the Fire Nation. M. Night should have gone in, looking at this as a trilogy from the jump and had each Book (season) as an individual movie. That way, he would have made purists and prior fans happy as well as newcomers. Those of us who enjoy the original series know how much he left out that was germane to understanding the characters, their motivations and the story arc and newcomers would have been able to appreciate what was going on as opposed to everything coming off as disjointed scenes with no real continuity.
[quote]Ronsauce wrote:
[quote]sardines12 wrote:
film this in 2d only[/quote]
That’s just it. It was filmed in 2d only, and the 3d was done in post as a shitty afterthought.
Is it that you think an Asian Katara would come off less whiny?[/quote]
Why would you splice together what I wrote like that? I already made this clear why it didn’t work. He stuck 90210 in an igloo with some real Eskimos and called that “The Water Tribe”. It felt rushed, absurd and as if he strictly just threw in some white people just to get more people in the seats. It did NOT help the story, it effectively HURT IT. It wasn’t something minor that you ignore. If you watched the show, the Katara and Sokka they chose just were not it even though the girl at least did a better job than “90210 Sokka”.
Yes, at least sticking to the script in that department would have provided at least some air of authenticity. This just seemed like “Airbender’s Greatest Hits” done like a Kobe Bryant highlights reel only with none of the “true characters”.
Was I clear enough that time?
After reading the green screen/stage comment I’m feeling a limpdicked about going to see it. Not that I care about the $12, but that it’s going to a poorly done film. Guess next I’ll go see Inception and Salt when they come out.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Why would you splice together what I wrote like that?
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Don’t get your panties in a twist.
Editing out the rest of that post to only focus on the one thing I wanted to address in NO WAY changes what you had said. I was merely wondering why an Asian actor playing an Inuit character would make the movie better. Are Asian actors inherently better than white actors? Is authenticity only in danger when white actors are cast to play other races’ roles? I’m pretty sure Zuko wasn’t East Indian in the cartoon, but that’s ok, at least he wasn’t white in the movie.
And if it’s a matter of acting ability, why specify that it should have been an Asian playing her?
[quote]Ronsauce wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Why would you splice together what I wrote like that?
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Don’t get your panties in a twist.
Editing out the rest of that post to only focus on the one thing I wanted to address in NO WAY changes what you had said. I was merely wondering why an Asian actor playing an Inuit character would make the movie better. Are Asian actors inherently better than white actors? Is authenticity only in danger when white actors are cast to play other races’ roles? I’m pretty sure Zuko wasn’t East Indian in the cartoon, but that’s ok, at least he wasn’t white in the movie.
And if it’s a matter of acting ability, why specify that it should have been an Asian playing her?
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Have you even seen the movie? Even the white guy from spill.com agrees with me.
http://my.spill.com/profiles/blogs/the-last-airbender-audio
I do believe I already made this as clear as possible…they stuck a bunch of people who look OUT OF PLACE IN A FUCKING IGLOO in an igloo with REAL Eskimos and tried to pass it off like a real tribal village.
I mean, have you SEEN a tribal village before?
They didn’t just pick “white people”. They picked the whitest old woman short of Mrs Doubtfire to play Katara’s grandmother in this movie…IN A FUCKING IGLOO.
Does this shit really need to be more clear for you to get it?
FUCK!!! The Last Airbender = The Last Time M.Night Bends Us Over.
Maybe…just maybe you can enjoy the movie if you’ve never heard of or seen the animated series. But at least we can still savor the animated series and not have to resort to what-if’s from a written book.
The big wigs at Paramount need to purge all attached to the movie and start over.
Let’s see someone argue that James Cameron’s Avatar is still a hack job after watching this M.Night turd dry before your eyes.
Hold the phone. Did someone just write this movie had a 150 million dollar budget??? WTF
I want to see what the. Creators of Avatar thought.
And I’m going to disagree, if you’ve seen the cartoon you can fill in the blanks and tolerate this. If you have nothing to base this movie on like most of the reviewers it come off as a throw away “F” grade trash movie.
I hope the creators find M.Night and earth bend his Ass.
I was really looking forward to seeing this movie, and now I don’t even know if I should go. It got an 8% on Rotten Tomatoes, I’ve never in my life seen a movie receive such a low rank.
Is it even worth the $10?
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
I was really looking forward to seeing this movie, and now I don’t even know if I should go. It got an 8% on Rotten Tomatoes, I’ve never in my life seen a movie receive such a low rank.
Is it even worth the $10?[/quote]
My opinion is I want people to see it so they don’t give up on the concept. This movie was clearly OVER-edited. It was like scenes were just missing. They skipped around to the "important events, but when those events came, they fell flat because there was no build up.
In the series, Sokka had a whole relationship with “Princess Yue” (the moon spirit). That was his first girlfriend. None of that came across in the movie. They basically said, “I like you”. “I like you too” and then she killed herself.
I swear, this movie would have been ten times better if fucking Michael Bay had directed it. At least then the fight scenes would be interesting and filled with flying doves in slow motion.
^haha or John Woo. I’m down for either to take over.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
I was really looking forward to seeing this movie, and now I don’t even know if I should go. It got an 8% on Rotten Tomatoes, I’ve never in my life seen a movie receive such a low rank.
Is it even worth the $10?[/quote]
My opinion is I want people to see it so they don’t give up on the concept. This movie was clearly OVER-edited. It was like scenes were just missing. They skipped around to the “important events”, but when those events came, they fell flat because there was no build up.
In the series, Sokka had a whole relationship with “Princess Yue” (the moon spirit). That was his first girlfriend, first kiss (he had two girlfriends in the series so the dude was a pimp). None of that came across in the movie. They basically said, “I like you”. “I like you too” and then she killed herself.
I swear, this movie would have been ten times better if fucking Michael Bay had directed it. At least then the fight scenes would be interesting and filled with flying doves in slow motion.[/quote]
I just wish they would have focused more on the minor events instead of summing up the entire season in two hours.
Ang wasn’t playful enough. On the show, he was always light hearted and making jokes. Which is made it scary when he flipped out when he found out all the Airbenders were killed and he started a tornado.
Avatar needs Lord of the Rings/Harry Potter treatment.
I’m getting together with my friends that were a fan of the series and re-watching the 4-part season finale of the Fire Season for the actual cartoon, and then telling everyone we went and saw ‘The Last Airbender’.
Its cheaper.
It’s more fun.
It doesn’t leave you with the feeling you should exact exciting and probably borderline illegal revenge.
Nothing but pluses.
I have a feeling M. Night may be taking a forced “creative hiatus” for a while. He’s made four absolute stinkers in a row.
I heard M. Night Shomamma was assassinated. Is this true?