before then I think it was the Islamic stare of the Mamluks of Egypt (correct me if wrong)
before then Arab Kurdish empire
before that it was the Christian kingdom of Jerusalem and I can keep going back
I believe the kingdom of Jerusalem was set up right after the crusades?
But before the Christian’s you get the Byzantine empire, the Roman’s, the Jews (who at one point really did reside through a significant portion of Isrsel)
And everyone in between
I can actually go all the way back to the 12 tribes of Isrsel and before that the canaanite city kingdoms
Essentially… Arabs have not been indigenous to Israel for 2000+ years
Israel is a special place for Muslims, Christian’s and Jews… as such I’d prefer compatibility amongst the three groups as opposed to fighting however religion is a tough and unforgiving mistress
Therefore fighting will ensue until one side is 100% sure they’ve lost… at which point I expect another mass persecution or even genocide if the Jews lose
And forced displacement if the Muslims lose. A two state solution is only feasible if the “Muslim” countries with secularist/profit driven agendas get their heads in the game (Saudi, UAE etc) as they’ve already signed off on ceasing hostilities and in private they don’t seem to be so anti Isrsel… every now and again they’ll even shoot down rockets or drones fired at Israek that cross their Airspace’s though I believe that’s more a display of good faith as opposed to properly choosing a side
Jihadism and Islamic fundamentalism appears to be something countries like Saudi are looking to quash as it presents a risk to the royal family who is corrupt, engages in TONS of haram practice… the Jihadis probably don’t look at the royal family in such a good light as they do not represent fundamentalist or even secular Islam. apparently it’s sickening, just the most degenerate festivities imaginable…
And every now and then a member of the royal family will be caught out in some ridiculous scandal “caught with ten keys of Coke in Singapore” (why would ANYONE bring drugs into Singapore!!! They’ll KILL you!) etc
I hate the idea of this conflict, I personally have no gripe with Muslims who practice in private. My issue comes when anyone from any religious denomination comes at me with “you NEED to follow my religion or punishment will ensue either here and now or in the afterlife”
My life is difficult as it is… religion won’t help me… but I’m happy for others to find solace in prayer and I do appreciate the sense of community that comes from being a part of a large religion.
The area had still been majority Muslim the longest, 1300 years. What is the argument for Israel? That “Palestine” did not exist so the land can be sold to the highest bidder? In this case Rothschilds.
Arguments just jump to British control as if the history, culture etc. did not exist.
You focus on Muslims as if the Jews/Israel have been innocent angels. I am not even going to say they BUT, the Israeli deep state does not want peace. They want control of the area. They do not want a 2-state solution. I do not see how anyone can argue they do.
Its beyond me how anyone from any ethnicity other than jewish would support Israel, jews see everyone other than them as animals and servants. Israel has done nothing for any of your countries.
Jews spit at christians in isreal, and that happends a lot. Read the talmud and see the truth of judaism!
I never saw that happen and I spent a long time there
I actually worked with Christian’s, Jews and Arabs in the same group without noticing any tension.
I was exposed to violence in thst I had to run away from gunshots once and often entire blocks closed down following a shooting, stabbing, I think one suicide bombing etc
Very strange way to live… certainly not something I’d be comfortable with…
Being American should in itself be a decent enough reason to support Israel because Israel largely keeps certain groups/organizations in check thst would otherwise be at odds with the United States.
Without Israel America would likely have additional wars and global conflicts to worry about… and American troops would die as opposed to Israeli soldiers.
That being said I also believe without Isrsel many of these groups would also fight each other as this has been occurring within Palestine, Yemen etc.
https://youtube.com/shorts/7TwEQX6zwUI?si=mKyqVEjULfJZzZ43 this video is one of tens of others, ranging from assault to much worse. America has around 1000 military bases in the world, they do not need israel for anything. Isreal caused a lot more wars than peace, israel has stolen from the US and used the US. And even possibly killed JFK. They are not a ally, but a manipulator using the US as a vessle to do what they want.