Feeling a way does not make it so. Being minority in a situation, does not automatically give you any “moral points” for being lesser than the majority.
The fact is this for anybody who has done any more than 5 minutes of research on the topic, we know, for a fact what the palestinian leadership is and has been about. They are about war, strife and conflict, particularly with, though not limited to, anything that can be called “Jewish”.
They have had chance after chance, basically the west gave in to all the demands the PLO/ hamas save for 2 minor conditions.
Renounce violence and acknowledge Israel’s right to exist. They won’t cross that really low bar. Basically, you can make them all lottery winners and if you put condition that they cannot kill Jews and have to acknowledge Israel’s right to exist, they would refuse it.
That is what is keep Gaza from becoming a paradise on the sea.
I don’t want to see people get hurt. And conflict and war are always bad things. But what are you supposed to do, when you have a neighbor who will not accept anything less than your utter destruction?
What is Israel supposed to do? What is the solution to this issue? What would you have Israel do.
Let’s say your Israel and you were attacked on Oct 7, what’s your play?
Funny, I thought the same thing about Europeans. I have spent a lot of time in Europe and I noticed very unsubtly, that everybody hates everybody else.
Europe is one of the most racist places on the face of the earth. And while the people’s of most countries hate the peoples in other countries; they all collectively hate gypsies. While lecturing the world about morality.
Europe as a collective, is an asshole. How many massive wars and toils has Europe dragged the world into not so long ago?
It’s so refreshing to see European capitals being overrun with millions of people calling for the genocide of the Jews, while calling everyone else, nazis. It’s especially titillating when you see that shit in Germany. And why is the head of the EU in Germany? Have you moron’s learned nothing?
How about Europe, for once in their existence, shut their fucking face holes and quit bringing the world to the brink of war. It seems nobody want’s to destroy Europe’s rich history, more than Europeans.
That appears accurate to me as well. It also appears to be an accurate description of many Christians, fwiw.
A more extremely logical approach would be to not see departures from precision as the exact same as departures from accuracy, or truth
I wonder if a quick scan of your memory can’t return an instance of an honorable person within the Bible using vaguesness, deceit or guile, not even once. I think someone could, even if you can’t. (just my opinion, not a challenge)
… nevermind … reading on a bit…
It does seem that you have contradicted yourself. Have I misread you in this regard?
If I recall correctly, you said that the beginning of Mathew 7 doesn’t read the way I read it because of the end of Mathew 6. I would have thought that Mathew 7 fits together so that the middle and end of Mathew 7 is connected to its beginning, more so than a separate chapter, Mathew 6, even if it is closer in terms of physical writing, word count, in a physical book.
Specifically
7 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
12 So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
24 “Therefore everyone who hears these words of mine and puts them into practice is like a wise man who built his house on the rock. 25 The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house; yet it did not fall, because it had its foundation on the rock. 26 But everyone who hears these words of mine and does not put them into practice is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. 27 The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell with a great crash.”
How could one implement 7:12 without developing a kind and soft eye, in view of 7:2? How could the warnings of 7:21 to 7:27 be for anyone other than whoever would use it as fuel to take more seriously 7:2 and 7:12 in view of each other? Which match the second highest Christian virtue if I recall correctly - to love one’s neighbor as they love themselves
From the other thread which I am referring to:
I didn’t mean it as completely escaping judgement in an absolute sense, more like giving and getting a kinder judgement.
As in Matthew 6:14-15 (I just read Matthew 6 and 7 right now)
14 For if you forgive other people when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. 15 But if you do not forgive others their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.
Then Matthew 6:22-23
22 “The eye is the lamp of the body. If your eyes are healthy,[c] your whole body will be full of light. 23 But if your eyes are unhealthy,[d] your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light within you is darkness, how great is that darkness!
the footnotes of the website I was on say that [c] [d] healthy/unhealthy can indicate generosity and stinginess
A generous eye vs stingy eye would match with Matthew 7:2
While I do see how Matt 6:34 is a pragmatic fact of living in this world, it also seems like advice in preparing for an afterlife.
I also thought that the old saying, “What goes around, comes around” is describing the Hindu concept of Karma, which I agree, does bear resemblance
I agree with this I guess, I just think there is more - like remembering that God is The Other that is All Knowing and applying it specifically in that way
Thank you for the feedback and answering almost all of my questions. I had to give feedback to your feedback eventually, after giving it a rest first.
No disrespect intended. I stopped saying that somewhere along the way, and then some disrespect may have snuck it’s way in I guess. I blame demonic possession and recognize that I should not have let my guard down.
If you have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, it is impossible to be possessed by a devil.
This is very lengthy thread, with many completely different conversations. “Eventually” buries the context of my comments under many posts. Following train of thought with great gaps of time, and trying to precisely determine what you are responding to all that I mentioned in a discussion is difficult. I am not going to search this thread to try and figure out what you are asking, and how it fits the context of my comments.
If you wish to continue our discussion, you will need to start a specific thread. I will be glad to discuss anything in the Bible with you. But I will do it no longer on this thread.
tldr
“we don’t know where the hostages are and/or those who we still have captive have been subject to such horrendous abuse so we can’t let them out or else they’ll make us look bad. That or we have killed all of them”.
I honest to god can’t see how a terrorist organisation could be so stupid. If Hamas cared about Palestinian civilians (which they’ve openly stated they don’t) they’d have kept the hostages as the release of said hostages could broker a deal that doesn’t involve the IDF storming Rafah and wiping out every single militant they can find… with huge civilian casualties ensuing as Hamas deliberately hides behind civilians and violates international laws on war by storing weapons and munitions in schools, hospitals, mosques and civilian homes
I honestly believe Hamas fighters and leaders believe they are fighting a jihad… that god will protect them against a vastly more powerful army… Otherwise I can’t fathom how or why they’d lose track of the one thing that’d get them out of this situation.
Typically, criminals aren’t the brightest. They aren’t really any worse intellectually than suicide bombers as a comparison. Lot’s of stupidity involved with terrorism.
There are also quite a few useful idiots (at least here in the US) that deny established facts about hamas’ actions. There are feminists that deny the fact that hamas militants have raped Israeli women. That these women shouldn’t be believed, and in some cases saying that if it did occur they deserved it. It is tough for me to understand the abilities that some people possess to have such inconsistent beliefs.
