This is an example where you are assuming that I am being subtle. If you search my many posts, you will find that subtlety is not my method of communicating. I am very far from subtle in any in any of my comments. I say exactly what I believe. Please read everything I say as literal, with no hidden or cloaked message.
Please don’t try to assign your values to me. Take my comments at face value.
If not English, then what language? This is a very simple question.
Note: I will be observing if you are speaking with what I would call guile. Here is your opportunity for answering a very simple question.
Here’s the thing, I understood what you meant by international language (another way of saying lingua franca). Of course they didn’t speak any European or Middle Eastern languages in the Americas at the time but again, we all know what you meant.
A slight tweak to your argument. Palestinians are very useful to Arab (and Turkish) governments as a concept (meaning, ugh, we don’t want those people here) to draw attention away from domestic issues whenever is convenient/necessary.
And Netanyahu government has shown that corrupt demagogues who appoint ministers based on the “he’s so retarded, he’ll piss off the libs, can’t wait” criteria and claim that the armed forces are the “hotbed of extreme left” absolutely suck at keeping their country safe from terrorists who’ll they know will strike sooner or later.
And remember all the big picture - in the Muslim world, Sunnis can’t fight, Shiites can.
your lack of reading comprehension shows. stop getting defensive, you are allowed up update your information and what you believe. Being wrong is only retarded if you refuse to consider other facts or viewpoints.
lol you going to tell on him instead of refuting facts or his argument…weak
Ouch.
What I was saying is that I wouldn’t
As with the other examples, I do not think there is really one and only one. English is fair enough I said - it is predominant.
Why not?
Because they happen to live next to it. It wouldn’t matter if Gaza were on the other side of the world, but these people happen to live in Israel, but do not recognize it’s right to exist. I.E. they want to kill all the Jews and take the land for themselves.
When shouting “From the river to the sea” what do they mean if they got what they wanted? What are they planning to do with the Jews? Displace them or kill them? And why should the Jews be displaced or killed just because the palestinians said so? Who are they to be cop, judge, jury and executioner over the Jews?
Why do people even hate Jews in the first place? It all seems ludicrous to me.
I’m not saying they(Palestinains) are right, but I’m trying to look at it from their perspective. I assume they feel like they occupied this land and another entity(British) came in and gave half of it to someone else(Israel) leading to many being displaced. From that perspective I can understand why they want that land back, or feel entitled to it.
Is it that they want to kill the Jews, or they want to cause a lot of discomfort to those they view as occupiers of “their” land that happen to be Jews?
I don’t agree with their perspective, but I can understand why they have it.
They want to kill Jews when Jews are equal to them. In Muslim nations, Jews and Christians were second class citizens. It’s a myth that Muslims tolerated other people of the book if we take tolerate to mean treated as equals. Tolerate really meant allowed to live and work and not be a slave (they did have slaves as well). Free Jews and Christians had limited rights.
Palestinian Arabs and Palestinian Jews lived side by side when Palestine was under Ottoman control. This was because they were both subjects of the Ottoman Empire. And since the Ottomans were Muslims, Jews had less rights than Arabs, unless the Arab was not a Muslim. Remove the Ottomans and any other Muslim rulers and tell Palestinian Arabs that Jews are their equals, after centuries of being superior, well, that’s an issue.
War and PR are not exactly the same thing. PR can and does exist outside of war.
Not a billion, not half, that’s ridiculous.
An Afghan could honestly write that same description of Afghanistan minus the “converted into churches” part.
In my case the reasons to not do so outweigh the hypothetical reasons for doing so. I believe Palestine has the right to exist. I believe Palestine has the right to defend itself.
Releasing hostages all of a sudden might be or have been the best thing to do, but not because of pressure from people or groups. I would fear being held responsible by God for playing part in a PR war against Palestine.
Tolerate inherently carries a meaning of opposition or dislike.
Muslims had limited rights, everyone did. You’ve been vague here.
You say Jews had less rights than Arabs, unless the Arab was not a Muslim.
You could have just said And since the Ottomans were Muslims, Jews had less rights than Muslims.
In other words, were people given different legal rights and responsibilities because of religious identity, or ethnic?
That might have something to do with something, but the larger issue is most definitely Israeli soldiers commiting rape, pillaging, and Israeli expansion.
I have thought about it for a while. The Islamic ideal is for truth to be one’s cause and purpose. Their can be a big difference between what Muslims do and what Islam teaches.
So when I read your statement I can agree that’s a huge problem in the Muslim world. To a sincere Muslim, placing love of the world before Islamic teachings would match what you said, causing sins and calamities until rectified.
But I can’t help but think that can’t be even close to what you meant.
I suspect it would take a looooong time for me to get to what you meant all my myself
I guess if I think about it long enough, I’ll eventually settle on something better than what you meant. Cheers! Happy New Year!!
Israel is in Palestine so the Israelis have the right to defend themselves/Palestine. Palestinian Arabs are not fighting to exist, Israelis are fighting to exist. Palestinians are fighting to wipe out Jews.
No, you’re being deceptive. We all have limited rights. You ignore the part about Jews and Christians, as well as slaves, having fewer rights than Muslims. There are degrees of limitations.
First off, Jews had fewer rights whether the Muslims in power were Turks or Arabs.
Both. Ottomans looked down on Arabs, Muslim or otherwise. At one point, and this happened while Mohammad was still alive, there was a hierarchy among Muslims that was based on whether you were an original convert or a later convert.
Nope. Thats exactly what I meant.
Imho- when somebody or a group of people does that- places their cause or purpose before truth- it has horrible results. It has horrible results because by getting the order of priority mixed up, they are no longer servants to what is true, and can do anything they want to anybody they choose using any rationale that suits their desire.
Thats why we see so many horrible things In The Name Of [insert cause/purpose here].
Good luck! 
Thanks. And happy new year to you too!
Sincerely, thanks for diving into that.
This is why you can’t separate Hamas from Palestinians.
