At the beginning of the 70th week there will be a two-state solution
It’s the Middle East, deceit is an accepted cultural trait.
Submission to what?
I cannot speak for anything in the Talmud. As to the book of Esther, sure she didn’t reveal that she was Jewish. Yes, it is a form of deceit. But the examples of Abraham and Jacob also used deceit. It is no big deal. They are all fallen men. They sin. They deceive. We all do. That includes the Muslims. Through out the Old Testament all men show themselves as sinners, with very few exceptions (Daniel stands out, for one). God works with sinners (or He works with no one.)
1 John 1:8, “If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.”
The difference is that the Muslims have developed deceit into an acceptable art form.
Not a chance. If the Christian knows which kingdom he is living, he knows that the Church is not taking the kingdom by force. The Church is building the kingdom of God. Zero violence.
2 Timothy 2:15, “Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.”
I will grant that many religions believe that they are called to bring in the kingdom, one way or the other. You can make a case that both the Zionist Jews and Muslims wish to take the kingdom by force.
They place cause or purpose before truth.
Kinda like the rainbow brigade leftists.
Alot like them.
I don’t think I have actually said that - the way I remember what I said was that intentionally vague is underrated. I also remember twojarslave calling myself as being intentionally vague, which I took no issue with and pointed out that he shouldn’t take any issue with me on that basis either as he had described himself in the same way earlier. Since he had described himself in the same term, I don’t think he meant anything negative by it. My word choice toward the beginning was caution and erring on the other side of caution, which I consider to be different ways of trying to describe the same thing.
That is not the same as me calling myself intentionally vague.
I have gone out of my way to be quite specific at times. Is their anything in particular that you would like me to be more specific about?
Thank you for the advice.
I guess I should have said that I would support a decision to release all the hostages if Hamas did that, but that I had no interest in putting any kind of pressure on them to do so.
Moreso, I should have specifically pointed out that I would go out of my way to not appear to do so, even though I actually would support such a decision if they reached it.
Had I simply said yes it would have been deceitful. Had I simply said no, it would have also been deceitful. I hadn’t put in enough energy and specificity for anyone to honestly take away anything definitive from it. People did say they took away definitive things from it - that’s fine, I have patience, I can forgive. I expect that it would take a lot of patience to get down to the bottom of things.
I may or may not have enough, no guarantees.
Well first, I consider Jesus (as) to be better than any Muslim on the Earth today.
Second, have you found guile in my mouth?
Third, you mentioned some time ago someone you once knew. The way I remember it, you said that person kept on slipping in his own … premise (I think) … and you had to test his premises and they didn’t hold up. I might not remember your description of it very well, but now let me ask. Was that person yourself before “being saved”?
Fourth, you have quoted a portion of a conversation between me and zecarlo here. He said “the bullying”, and I asked “all of it?”, to which he brought up hypothetically sending a gay man to two different places. You seemed to think you found guile in my response, but with more thorough consideration I think you would find it was really in his question.
I can agree that I should not have answered. That however would have been taken as confirmation of peoples’ claims and suspicions all along. I still should have not answered, you are right.
You said that and I didn’t reply. I suppose I could have just asked if you’d studied the Bible in any of its original languages, rather than telling you specifically why I thought it might matter.
You’ve not addressed me since then until this post. A very similar issue lined up somewhat similarly, except this time you found guile with me when someone else brought confusion between the and a, in the English language.
Thanks again for the advice. I think I have been internally owning what I believe when I answer questions that are targeted at issues that lie outside of my beliefs. Taking your advice might mean answering less questions.
IMO, it does appear that guile and deceit are acceptable PR strategies of many Christians. I don’t even hold anything against random Christians.
Which deal do you think was the best deal which Palestinians rejected?
I agree “open air prison” is a terrible phrase to use, for different reasons. Because prison is where someone goes for committing a crime and there is usually an idea that they might get to leave. Gaza is a concentration camp.
You are saying that the PLO went to the table to claim that Jews have no right to exist, at all, anywhere, and then left the table after making the claim?
That would make me wonder the whole point of going to the table just to say what could have been said without a table?
I doubt that.
I haven’t said anything good about Hamas or the PLO. Nobody has challenged what I said about the Likud party. The fact is that the decision makers haven’t decided on or agreed upon peace, there is room enough to blame either side if one is so inclined.
I don’t think your specific claims would stand up to scrutiny if you’d like to back them up, but then you could just make new claims that are similar. Process might repeat. May or may not be worth seeing if I’m right or not.
Nope.
I can agree that I would expect much more bullying of gays in Gaza than Israel. I can agree that I would expect that to relate to mortality rates moreso in Gaza than in Israel.
Oddly enough, you still haven’t answered. More deflection. Should I be surprised? I actually am a little, but that’s probably from too much kindness on my part, oddly enough.
Wow. The Arabs started all of the problems? Huh. I guess you actually are antisemitic. I shouldn’t be surprised.
What do you mean by this?
Think about it for a while.
Where were they originally from? Not Palestine. There you go.
But it’s a cultural value among Arabs and a religious value in Islam.
I’m more Arab than you, who is zero Arab. So there goes your race card.
IMO, that is blasphemy. There is no human who was ever born of a woman that can be compared with Jesus. Jesus is God. 1 Timothy 3:16, “And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.”
I will get to your other comments. I just could go to sleep without commenting on the one above. You did say, “Well first.” And this was first.
All those words to attempt to avoid agreeing that you are intentionally vague. I suppose not, but it is very complex word salad to fall back on a technicality. Your explanation is intentionally vague.
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It was nothing concerning me. It pertains simply to logic. The person I was referring was extremely good at making a logical argument. His argument was as close to flawless as I have heard. The problem was always in his premises. The foundation of his conclusion was based on questionable premises.
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Where were the Zionists originally from? Not Israel. That’s a weird way to not answer my questions.
To me, any and all people are originally from God, not any place on Earth.
You claim to know more than me about Arab culture, I don’t specifically agree, but you might be right.
I am aware of deceit as an Islamic value only in the instance of war, not PR
What makes you so sure that you’re more Arab than me?
Clearly, that is a Jewish disinformation page written by Christian Zionists to deceive you about the true nature of the Mossad.
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I think our boy has been reading some espionage mystery thrillers.
By Way of Deception - Wikipedia).
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0f course, if you believe that Jews are liars, then a book written by a Jew about their lies would be a lie, wouldn’t it?
And there is your duplicitous nature revealing itself again.
PR is part of war.
You are questioning how I know, which is not something I need to reveal in order to be correct. If you were more Arab, or some part Arab, you would have just said so and ended it.