That’s a myth.
I was under the impression that judgement could, for some, be as brief as the twinkling of an eye - while for others it could be dreadful
Might a person who was less judgemental of others in life get an easier judgement from God?
I see three ways to interpret the beginning of Matthew 7
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Life advice for an easier life
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Life advice for an easier afterlife
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Being put on notice by Jesus (as) that it all cuts both ways so that however lowly I might have liked to think of any or all of you, I’ve come to realize that lowness would have been something for me to carry around inside of myself all the damn time anyways - so why don’t I just skip all of that work and ask everybody’s help in thinking of them as highly as I can muster, or something like that
Isn’t God Almighty the most distant, most powerful “other”?
I wouldn’t assume that there would be no correlation between a person’s behaviors and that person’s being written into a book of life
Regardless of causation, I would have to expect correlation at least
I’m curious: what would The Rule of First Mention have to say about “judge” or “judge not”?
Thanks for the warning
I understood it could be challenged, that’s probably why my instincts embedded sarcasm
In this case I don’t much care to argue it, although I still tend to think there’s decent sized shreds of truths to what you call myth
This is in part because I consider you to be an overly dismissive person. Letting you know is the least judgemental thing I can muster this moment, due in part to my own part mistakes.
Thanks for the warning and here’s one right back that’s somewhat similar. No disrespect intended
If we’re in agreement that living in Western civilization is a good thing, then it sort of is a “what have you done for me lately?” type of question. Why are things better today when Judeo-Christians are the ones in charge?
If you look at the city of Baghdad before it was sacked by Hulagu Khan in 1258 it was way ahead of any city in Christendom. However, it was hardly a modern, secular society with the sort of freedoms we enjoy today. Neither were Christian societies, but they were going to continue to march towards that light for hundreds of years, bringing us to where we are today.
Those societies only seem to spring up when Christians or Jews are the ones building them. And even now, secular forces are hard at work tearing down what has been built up over centuries. That’s the reason I can go down to the park in my liberal city, shoot up hard drugs and piss on the sidewalk in front of children. If a cop sees me doing this, he’ll point me to where I can get some free stuff, including paraphernalia. That’s a fact, not a political opinion.
With the Christians out of power, a new social vision is being realized right were I live. It’s happening fast, too. There’s actually a good chance that Muslims will be running the local government here in the next decade or so, and I have high hopes for them compared to secular liberals.
Hamas literally said civilians are not their problem. Civilians are a problem for the UN.
That is pretty clear to me.
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Warning? I was simply stating that the Dark Ages is a myth that historians have rejected.
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What has changed in your life as a direct result of their attack on Israel and the retaliation that followed?
Like materialy, monetarily, spiritually, any measurable change to any intrinsic factor you choose.
Well maybe you weren’t trying to help me get it right, my bad
Historians have rejected all kinds of things, like Jesus (as), for example
What’s telling is how the West is burdened with having sympathy for the Palestinian Arabs, and any sign of indifference to their plight is called racist, yet their fellow Arabs are not called out for their indifference and unwillingness to help.
When it comes to civility and being humane, is the West held to a higher standard, not only from within, but from the outside as well? We do know where all the non Western refugees run to for protection. We also know what they run from.
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I don’t understand your question
Quite a bit has changed for me after October 7 if that’s what you’re asking. I don’t blame every Palestinian for that. I will keep it vague for now and just say I’ve lost sleep and felt heartache
I don’t blame any human for that, other than myself, it’s a portion of the price I pay for past mistakes, for what it’s worth
Yes you do. I’m not going to rephrase or try to dance through the raindrops.
And you know where I’m headed with this too. Thats why you won’t answer.
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Nope.
In guessing where you were trying to go I answered along the lines of you saying of course they matter as they are a liability. I considered it a guess.
Choosing that any life matters makes everyone a potential liability.
I did answer
Lets try this again then.
Its a very simple question.
Do your lights still work?
Does your car start?
Heres an example:
When Iraq attacked Kuwait a bunch of my friends and family went to war on the side of the US. I enlisted too…
My one brother enforced the embargo on a destroyer and another was assigned to a hospital ship. I went to stay with my brothers family “in case anything happened”…
Like that. See?
Yes
Yes
Not really. Are you saying that of course Palestinian lives matter, just not all that much, as I’ve not yet sacrificed enough to make it so?
Oh wait, maybe I get it. If I remove time from the equation… Maybe you’re saying that I’m obviously a liar as I haven’t sacrificed enough in the past - so that obviously means that my actions speak louder and clear, that you think I’ve already said that they don’t matter, it’s an obvious lie for me to even pretend to remotely disagree when you pretty much verbally say the same
I’m I getting warmer?
Nope.
Its nice to see those affectations breaking down though.
Just guessing at what you might have meant, I’m somewhat glad you’ve enjoyed
I recommend against taking it as a confession although I can understand the temptation to do so
There is no scripture that I know that states the duration that judgment takes.
The scripture that has “twinkling of an eye” is what many refer is the rapture of the Church in 1 Cor 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
But this is not the judgment spoken of in Hebrews 9:27. For the Church that occurs at the Judgment Seat of Christ.
2 Cor 5:10, “For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.”
The preceding verses in chapter 5 clearly state that these are Christians.
I suppose, but not judging others as to whether they have heard the Gospel, could be viewed as a sin of omission. The Christian is told to spread the Gospel. Pragmatically, “judging” is a necessity in life. The man that has no judgment is bound to have much trouble in life.
Please note that salvation is a gift that cannot be earned. It is a covenant gift from God. Using an oft known verse John 3:16, “belief” is sufficient to receive the gift of “everlasting life.”`
All scripture has a literal meaning, a spiritual meaning, and a Christian application. It is strongly my opinion that we should know (or at least attempt to know) literal interpretation. I will always be offering my interpretation what the scripture is literally saying, unless I specifically state otherwise.
Matthew 7:1-2 has a literal meaning and Christian application meaning. In a church setting the preacher (pastor) is most apt to center his sermon on Christian application. That is what works toward the perfecting of the saints (Ephesians 4:10-16)
My problem with that approach is that it must also include what God is literally saying. But that is just the STEM in me.
Sure He is, but that is not the literal context of the passage, IMO.
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I should have included in the quote verse 12, “And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.”
The question a person needs to ask is whether their works were sufficient to have their name still written in the Book of Life. If not, it is not a good outcome.
Most of my fellow believers say that none of those at the Great White Throne Judgment have their names written in the Book of Life. I don’t see that the scripture says that. My position is that there must be place for those whom God was pleased with how they responded to the Light that they were given as stated in John 1:9, “That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.”
I am a firm believer that God is absolutely good. He would not condemn a man who responded as best he could to the Light that he was given. And there are not many that I know who believe that.
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You forgot allegorical and metaphorical.