The books were very long and very epically paced. The films try to reflect the same, and I think they need to be long, elaborate in order to honor the illustrious writing and storytelling in Tolkien. And not turn it into some GI Joe short film. I love how slowly paced these films have been, it’s similar to reading, almost.
And I’m totally with you Florelius on Radagastar being reduced to comic relief. Just terrible. There’s so many dwarves, I can’t even remember all there names, they should’ve used one of them more for that.
Overall, I still enjoyed the movie but not up to par with LOTR. Although, I’m still anticipating the 3rd. Where I’d give LOTR a 9/10, I give Hobbit 7/10. [/quote]
I didn’t like the portrayal of Radagast either. Gandalf is the only Istar who remains steadfast in his mission to oversee the affairs of men. Saruman is seduced by power; Radagast put his interest in nature above his reason for being in Middle-Earth.
During the War of the Ring, he was said to have completely withdrawn from the world of men.
The movie Radagast seems to be more like Tom Bombadil.
Haven’t seen Smaug (Smag?) yet, but the Hobbit is my favorite of the 4…(puts flame suit on). Had the trilogy cut out about 95% of stuff between Frodo and Sam maybe I’d have a different opinion. There’s nothing like 20 minutes of Frodo gazing deeply into Sam’s eye’s, “Frodo wouldn’t of got far without Sam (ghey stare only Elijah Wood can muster for 5 minutes).”
Like I said int he other thread Jackson makes some good movies, I just don’t like some of the liberties he took with the story for “Hollywood” sake.
The books were very long and very epically paced. The films try to reflect the same, and I think they need to be long, elaborate in order to honor the illustrious writing and storytelling in Tolkien. And not turn it into some GI Joe short film. I love how slowly paced these films have been, it’s similar to reading, almost.[/quote]
Thank you sir.
Very well said.
And fuck you all I still have not seen the second one. Fucking work is killing me.
[quote]aeyogi wrote:
That gold statue thing in the second film really pissed me off. It served no purpose and was a significant deviation from the original story. [/quote]
It was supposed to be an extension of Smaug’s greed. He was mesmerized by the statue.
DESOLATION OF SMAUG SPOILERS:
That scene would’ve worked better in flashback with the last dwarves of Erebor trying to oust Smaug by covering him in melted gold. I always imagined Smaug as being permanently encrusted with gems after having lain in the loot for so long. A gold dragon would’ve been visually amazing and unique.
[quote]Elegua360 wrote:
A director/producer like Peter Jackson has some degree of power with the studio when it comes to calling the shots. He could have kept it to the originally announced plan of a two-parter movie. His ego let him think that he could get away with making a trilogy out of a book that was already much thinner than any one of the LOTR trilogy books.
Someone beat him if he even suggests doing the Silmarillion. [/quote]
There is no such thing as LOTR trilogy books. LOTR series is made up of six books. The LOTR trilogy is the LOTR books made into three movies: two books per movie.
The fact that you don’t know that basically disqualifies you from putting forth your opinion into the matter.[/quote]
Dogma!
It was actually supposed to be one book but the paper shortage after the war made it neccesary to split it up.
I’ve only seen the first Hobbit movie, on HBO…it was OK, but far too much dwarves falling. I mean they were falling out of trees, down hills, into rooms and it never seemed to stop.
I actually enjoyed both films. I generally try and avoid the whole film/book comparison as they are completely different art forms. Obviously there are some things that just don’t work, but imo I thought the Hobbit was generally pretty good.