The Grind...

Training Over 35 Lifter
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[quote]MattyXL wrote:
x3 on the leg drive…my mind is too small (like the size of a dinasour) to think about all this stuff when Im benching. Again, with the flat BP, which I rarely do, I would like for the most part my chest and tris to get hit, with a leg drive wouldnt that take away that effect? Anyways my shoulders tell me flat benching are a no no anyways.

Those are some good RDLs, bro, the BB rows are looking good too, are they pendlay style?

WTF is a cuban rotation whosewhat?

You MANIMAL!

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A cuban rotation better have to do with tan girls in thongs or a hot sandwich.

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OOOOF!

Today felt really, really weak. Bench numbers were noticeably down. Now I also only got 5 hours of sleep last night, not much better the night before, and because of the nature of my diet I’m lifting on an empty stomach after about an 8-10 hour fast. So I can’t expect top performance.

STILL… the marker of losing muscle is that strength is dropping. I know it’s too early to be freaking out based on a sinlge lousy workout. And the mirror is still saying good things. But it’s tough not to overreact

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Gotta follow the advice you give out here bro, hang in there!

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[quote]FarmerBrett wrote:
I’m confused. How come you two (CK & Bulldog) know all about Hitchiker’s guide to the galaxy? You two, as far as I can remember, are both younger than me and I remember that as something my dad watched.

It’s like people of 40 who are into Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin, they were also groups my Dad liked when I was young. Shouldn’t they have been into punk and new romantic stuff like I was?[/quote]

I’m 40, and I consider Zeppelin to be probably the greatest rock group of all time - not a particularly big fan of Floyd though.

My son is 13, and his favorites are AC/DC and Metallica. Great music has a truly timeless appeal.

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It might be worth considering to get your daily carbs in before training. Even on minimal sleep (which is frequent) and low daily intake, if I get carbs + protein in me before training the session itself rarely suffers.

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[quote]ManfromMass wrote:

[quote]FarmerBrett wrote:
I’m confused. How come you two (CK & Bulldog) know all about Hitchiker’s guide to the galaxy? You two, as far as I can remember, are both younger than me and I remember that as something my dad watched.

It’s like people of 40 who are into Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin, they were also groups my Dad liked when I was young. Shouldn’t they have been into punk and new romantic stuff like I was?[/quote]

I’m 40, and I consider Zeppelin to be probably the greatest rock group of all time - not a particularly big fan of Floyd though.

My son is 13, and his favorites are AC/DC and Metallica. Great music has a truly timeless appeal.[/quote]

My point was that Led Zeppelin were more or less done and dusted by the time you or I were 8 or 9. I can’t imagine you were into them at the time. I know a lot of people get into bands retrospectively, but when I was just getting into music (around 10-11 years old) in the UK it was Madness, Bad Manners or The Jam (don’t know about the US) that we all liked and Led Zep, Floyd etc were bands our fathers were playing. I realise we can be influenced by what our siblings and parents play though, I’ve got my love of ELO off my dad and Elvis off my mum, but I like them now, not at the time. I would have hated to have liked what they did at the time.

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I’d like to quickly acknowledge how much I appreciate the folks who spend the time reading, commenting, and supporting. On internet chat groups, that’s a rare thing. I don’t get a lot of support, so it means a lot to get it. Thanks.

Brett - Basically you are saying that your taste in music (or lack thereof) is that of someone much older than yourself. Shal we discuss Lawrence Welk perhaps?

Git - I repeat your shoulders are ridiculous. RIDICULOUS! Right now I’m on a no-carb diet. I get carbs once every 14 days. So no matter when I eat, there’s no glycogen for fuel. But your suggestion is 100% correct. A few acrbs pre-workout should give anyone a boost.

Mass - Yes, great music is timeless. I submit Madonna, Van Halen, and Republika are also timeless. I’ll also add that like them or not, Lady GaGa, Chris Brown, and Britney Spears will be playing on the radio 30 years from now.

Matty - Yeah, I’ll stick with it. But carb withdrawl inevitably leads to man-PMS and the only thing that keep me from dissolving into a quivering mass is strength levels. And I’ve got no idea what Pendalay rows are. Regarding leg drive, yeah it allows you to lift more by using your legs for extra oomph. For your average meathead, that doesn’t mean you work your chest less, it just means you pile on more weight, work your chest just as hard and also work your whole body at the same time. It’s like the benefit of pullups compared to machine curls. Both work the biceps, but pullups invovle the rets of the body too.

Joe - BWAHAHAHA. No, it’s kinda an upright row combined with a military press. And I’ve come to believe leg drive is like the G spot. Some of us may never find it.

Nikki - Yes, you may call me Kent. Actually hot chicks can call me whatever the hell they like. I’m glad I amuse… that is, after all, my goal.

km - The program is called Body Transformation by a dude called Carter Schoeffer. You have to join the Precision Nutrition site to get it. It is one of the tightest, best designed programs I’ve ever read. The more I learn about strength training, fat loss, warm-ups, 531, complexes, hypertrophy, and progression, the more impressed I am witht his program.

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[quote]Nikki9591 wrote:
Why is there so much drama in the Over 35 forums lol

Anyway, popping in Canada (can I call you Kent? I can? Great). So I was popping in Kent because your posts always amuse me. You have great stats, and I hear you about being the oddball in your environment. Where I work, women are automatically assumed to be small and weak. The same day that I DL 275 is the day that a co-worker asks “Are you sure you can lift the syrup for the soda by yourself?”
Uh, yeah, I’ll be good 0:-)

Your workouts are awesome. Leg drive for bench is pretty cool when you get the hang of it, which you will. I think the hard part is driving without lifting your butt.[/quote]

Priceless!

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NO Carbs for 14 days!
Your discipline is amazing.

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Wow. Carbs every 14 days!! You are dedicated my friend.

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[quote]Canada_K wrote:
Git - I repeat your shoulders are ridiculous. RIDICULOUS! Right now I’m on a no-carb diet. I get carbs once every 14 days. So no matter when I eat, there’s no glycogen for fuel. But your suggestion is 100% correct. A few acrbs pre-workout should give anyone a boost.
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Are you running a CKD? If so, OOF! You’re a better man than me. I did that when I was MUCH younger (back when KSD and Lyle M posted on MFW) and weight trained M/Tu, had to take W/Th/F off (sometimes did cardio on those days) and then did a depletion workout Saturday morning, before refueling. But then again, that was only 6 days of no carbs.

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[quote]Canada_K wrote:

Brett - Basically you are saying that your taste in music (or lack thereof) is that of someone much older than yourself. Shal we discuss Lawrence Welk perhaps?

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No exactly the opposite. I think I have the tastes (or lack of) of someone who grew up in the late seventies and early eighties, whereas some people here seem to have the tastes of the generation before. Whatever, doesn’t really matter.

And I have absolutely no idea who Lawrence Welk is!

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[quote]ManfromMass wrote:

[quote]FarmerBrett wrote:
I’m confused. How come you two (CK & Bulldog) know all about Hitchiker’s guide to the galaxy? You two, as far as I can remember, are both younger than me and I remember that as something my dad watched.

It’s like people of 40 who are into Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin, they were also groups my Dad liked when I was young. Shouldn’t they have been into punk and new romantic stuff like I was?[/quote]

I’m 40, and I consider Zeppelin to be probably the greatest rock group of all time - not a particularly big fan of Floyd though.

My son is 13, and his favorites are AC/DC and Metallica. Great music has a truly timeless appeal.[/quote]

Ahh–fellow zeppelin head !!.

New to T nation and just happenned to be looking through some of the other older lifters threads (53 myself and new !!).
Was watching ‘it might get loud’ dvd last night with 2 of my favoutite guitarists of all time i.e jimmy page and dave evans. Really nice to watch jimmy page demonstrating some of the awesome sound he produced.

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No Carbs is that possible ,LOL. I start drooling after 2 days and can’t stop.

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Like clockwork, on day 11 of the 14 day diet cycle I start getting hungry. My meals tend to leave me unsatisfied, I’m not starving, but my body is constantly reminding me that it is lacking something. Someone, I think it was Oprah, once used the analogy that the pang in your gut was the feeling you get when your body is digging into it’s fat stores.

In which case the digging really starts around day 7-13.

My body shape is changing nicely. My legs, arms and chest are looking more muscular as opposed to just present. There’s still the brutally stubborn fat holding on around my abs and lower back. No matter how much I’d like to get back to the sick lean-ness I had last summer, I’m stopping the first week in June. Then I’m going to try carb-cycling. It’s going to look a lot like what I do normally, but the high carb days will be higher, and the low carb days will be lower.

Besides, it will be easier to sustain than this binge/purge crap.

Dude - Yup, no carb is possible. But it can be sucky.

Brett - My tastes tend to change with the times. I actually like current music quite a lot. Although I’m solidly grounded in the 80s. BIG HAIR ALL THE WAY!

Todd - Yeah, I guess this diet is ketogenic. I sure have ketone breath, let me tell you. It’s definitely not meant to be sustainable long term, and it’s designed to be as quick and effective at stripping fat as possible without sending the body scavenging into it’s muscle stores.

Git & Null - I’m not so much dedicated as impatient, obssessive, and prone to extremes… oh yeah, and AWESOME!

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I do something similar for 1-2 weeks at the time every so often. Its brutal but it works. I’m three years away from doing a real cut though. I figure theres no point in really cutting until I hit 235 or so.

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[quote]Canada_K wrote:

Todd - Yeah, I guess this diet is ketogenic. I sure have ketone breath, let me tell you. It’s definitely not meant to be sustainable long term, and it’s designed to be as quick and effective at stripping fat as possible without sending the body scavenging into it’s muscle stores.

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I just asked because it sounded like you were doing this in cycles (every 14 days you get carbs). KD’s are certainly effective at fat loss but trickier to come out of IMO.

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PS: Did you see today’s article?

http://www.T-Nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/controlledcarb_bulking_strategy

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Glad your cutting is coming along nicely. But you are officially out of the mens club for referencing Oprah.

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LOL!