I just find it funny as hell… how certain new members will say shit to others in these forums without knowing that person actual resume in some cases actually talking down too them. Especially when its not that hard to get a general idea regarding that person on this site if they would just do some research which is not hard on this site. I find it funny myself when some young guy whom probably was not even born yet when I first picked up my first weight wants to try and educate me. I just roll me eyes and laugh.
9 out of 10 (I’d go higher, but can you really have a fraction of a person?) of these “asking for advice” posts are really a ploy (if you will) to garner attention, whereupon said poster will then “hold court” and take on all comers, generously doling out wisdom based on nary a lick of actual experience.
Thank god I didn’t start a thread declaring the “mind muscle connection” bogus, and citing emg studies etc, back in the day when I did not believe in the old MMC (oh, but it’s true, it’s true!!!); I guess being an old geezer of 55, I was old enough even 10 years ago to know better…
I probably don’t say too much. I read everything you post in your log though. It isn’t that I don’t like small talk, I just often don’t have too much to contribute to it.
I spent years on here before I ever made a peep. I knew that I didn’t know much compared to most of the people having discussions. With the way the internet is these days, most people don’t share that feeling.
None. I came to read roid info and PX. But I found, to my surprise, that no one in Internetland knew what pyramiding up weights each set meant.
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I picked up a couple of ideas and applied them and I did do a year of oly lifting because of CT but I went to an OL facility to take lessons.
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Look guys, I’m not trying to be an ass, but most people online are full of shit, ok? Regardless of whether they have PHDs and are in this for money or if they give you advice with the best of intentions. Don’t believe everything you read online.
I didn’t lurk too much. I dropped in for the first time back in 2007 and made like one comment. I came back in 2016 (I think) and found that there’s more to this forum thing than I thought.
Participating in the forums has changed the way I train. We have great gyms here. I mean, freaking great gyms. But we don’t have the hardcore gyms or a concentrated group of old, beat up bodybuilders. I only know what I’ve seen.
As many of you know, I tend to be hard on myself. I think I might have a little of that muscle dysmorphia thing going on, but it’s in large part due to the fitness industry. The fitness mags (even reputable ones) put phenomenal looking people on their covers and they’re always just a little better than me. Well after watching “Bigger, Stronger, Faster” on Netflix I learned that those folks are on gear. Not much, but enough to give them the look that I keep chasing. I’m not saying that I have to use gear to reach my goals, but my goals may not be attainable with my current lifestyle (husband, father, cop… ya know, an adult).
Hanging around here gives me a dose of reality. Certain levels of strength ARE attainable without gear. Certain physiques ARE attainable but they might be a bit smaller than I thought (that shredded look might be at 190-200 lbs instead of 230 lbs).
This place keeps me sane. I’m motivated by people just like me (adults with other things going on) who move very impressive weights. I see how many different approaches that are used successfully. I also get a little help here and there via pep talks and reality checks. I’m more of a glass half empty kind of guy (big surprise, right) and the occasional compliment or straight up honesty help me keep a healthy perspective.
I used to read all of the articles under the impression that if someone was deemed worthy to pen a piece they must undoubtedly be an authority in the subject. Eventually I learned about “fitness authors” and even became friends with people whose daily routine consisted of trying to write as many articles as they could and submit them to as many outlets as they could despite not really being highly accomplished themselves.
With the forums, when i even occasionally chimed in, i always tried to stress that anything I said was my own thinking lest I come across trying to sound smarter (or more like an ass) then I actually was. With time, I developed my opinions on which posters made sense, who talked Because they liked to talk, who actually was trying to help, and who was just reveling in any attention they received on an anonymous message board.
These days, being able to find so much info online, we’ve seen the Idea of the keyboard experts reach even new heights as being able to read and quote other (smarter) people apparently constitutes credentials in some peoples’ minds.
I would say it did, but I think that’s because of circumstance. As in:
I lurked not knowing much of anything. Lurking around in the articles section gave me quite a bit of information I hadn’t known before. Lurking before posting gave me a bit of leeway, as to not annoy people with the same redundant questions, and overthinking. Everything I needed was somewhere, I just had to find it.
When I actually started posting, it helped almost seven fold, because people were willing to jump in almost immediately after I would post something in the log I had made, to help me out. I’m happy I wasn’t as hardheaded as other newcomers often are, and I think that was also a major contributor as to how much help people were willing to offer. And all the help I got, I would apply in real time, and I saw my technique improve quickly, which allowed me to put more weight on the bar and get stronger.
Even before being on T-Nation, I had a blurry idea of how training and nutrition went, but nowhere near enough to ever see progress without any assistance or guidance.
I had a friend who’s wife is a “Chinese medicine doctor” and swore by her mentor’s magical skills. Would send him to this guy whenever my friend hurt his back -she showed me the “magical technique” used once, was a version of a hip flexor stretch LMAO!!! Meanwhile, I told him his glutes/core were weak as fuck (he also had super “tight” hamstrings duh), and that’s what he really needed to work on. But…work, gym, horrors, no way that’s the answer to a “bad back”.
Has anyone noticed most of the time the solution takes going to see these dudes for 4 to 6 weeks!!??? (coincidentally, the time it takes for most stuff to heal on it’s own LOLLL)
I DO NOT want to disparage the people that actually know what they’re doing though. Jordan Peterson in his new book has an amazing story about a physical therapist that helped his daughter’s major ankle issue, when doctors were telling her she needed (another) operation. (The daughter had a legit disease whereby she needed her hip and ankle replaced by her 20s -awful.)
p.s. @dt79, random trivia, this story is in the chapter “Pet a cat when you encounter one on the street.”