Long suspected that Most bro science and personal reported experiences related to aas use is misleading and often wrong
Same for most broscience and experiences relating to pct, in both cases often includes those of guru status
Ounting calories isnt enough what you digest and burn varies too much
Agree with others in doms still a good indicator and exces protein isnt any use
That using a combination of IF and CBL successfully over the last year or so has allowed my body to handle carbs way better then it use to be able to.
That soreness is not only a good indicator of a good workout, but once a BP isn’t sore it means it’s probably about time to hit it again.
Shitty calves will only be slightly less shitty calves at best. Have yet to see a seriously impressive before and after of calve growth.
There seems to be a kind of stigma on getting most of your protein from whole foods as opposed to shakes, but I go through periods where 2/3 of my protein is from whey and I almost always feel better and less bloated.
Being big but not lean isn’t that much more impressive IMO then being lean and not that big. Big AND lean guys are who impress me.
Finding what foods make you look and feel good are crucial in being successful in the long run. Eating brown rice 3x a day when you hate it will always blow.
A lot of the physiques most here aspire towards or dream of aren’t likely achievable without the use of gear.
You don’t need to SQUAT to build impressive legs!
99% of lifters would benefit greatly by wearing olympic lifting shoes.
[quote]Ripsaw3689 wrote:
[quote]rds63799 wrote:
-the whole peri-workout nutrition thing is a scam to get you to buy protein powder. For your pre-workout meal eat meat and veg, post workout - meat and veg. Nature sussed out how to build muscle long before casein hydrolysate ever came on the scene.
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Have you tried Anaconda/Plazma? Not trying to knock you, just curious. [/quote]
Going along with this
I believe carbs in a narrow window is best even if its a truck load
I worked out wiht whey only and no food and fasting for 12-16hrs before each workout and have still been able to add 30 lbs and gain strength. So I don’t think intra or pre workout carbs are needed.
I think people can do many many more sets than they think their body can.
Over training is a myth for 99% of the population because they can’t push themselves hard enough frequently enough.
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
That using a combination of IF and CBL successfully over the last year or so has allowed my body to handle carbs way better then it use to be able to.
That soreness is not only a good indicator of a good workout, but once a BP isn’t sore it means it’s probably about time to hit it again.
Shitty calves will only be slightly less shitty calves at best. Have yet to see a seriously impressive before and after of calve growth.
There seems to be a kind of stigma on getting most of your protein from whole foods as opposed to shakes, but I go through periods where 2/3 of my protein is from whey and I almost always feel better and less bloated.
Being big but not lean isn’t that much more impressive IMO then being lean and not that big. Big AND lean guys are who impress me.
Finding what foods make you look and feel good are crucial in being successful in the long run. Eating brown rice 3x a day when you hate it will always blow.
A lot of the physiques most here aspire towards or dream of aren’t likely achievable without the use of gear. [/quote]
No bash here but I haven’t been sore from a workout in over a year and I think most of sessions are quite successful and insanely voluminous.
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
I still think soreness is a fairly decent indicator of a good workout.
(pretty sure I shared that in the things I can’t prove but believe thread)[/quote]
Yup, especially when training back to me
[quote]Ripsaw3689 wrote:
Mine: Everyone needs to do direct arm work.
So many years of wasted arm gainz…[/quote]
Part of that crew.
[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:
Too many people worry about tiny things that are completely inconsequential to the big picture in regards to lifting and nutrition.
“Oh I need to have BCAA’s or MAG-10 before a fasted walk otherwise my body will decompose” etc.[/quote]
I think all you need is protein, creatine, fish oil and a multi. Everything else is useless or the benefits are so minute, they can be ignored. puts on helmet before the NOX/Glutamine/Taurine/Leucine/Jacked 3d squad gets here
ALSO;
-Jogging is ghey
-Aerobics is ghey
-angled leg presses should all be turned into scrap metal
-BTN presses are great
-You can’t have too much back and hams
-Back squats > front squats
-You don’t need to eat 10 seconds after your last rep of the workout lest you go catabolic
-Stiff legs > RDL’s
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
That using a combination of IF and CBL successfully over the last year or so has allowed my body to handle carbs way better then it use to be able to.
That soreness is not only a good indicator of a good workout, but once a BP isn’t sore it means it’s probably about time to hit it again.
Shitty calves will only be slightly less shitty calves at best. Have yet to see a seriously impressive before and after of calve growth.
There seems to be a kind of stigma on getting most of your protein from whole foods as opposed to shakes, but I go through periods where 2/3 of my protein is from whey and I almost always feel better and less bloated.
Being big but not lean isn’t that much more impressive IMO then being lean and not that big. Big AND lean guys are who impress me.
Finding what foods make you look and feel good are crucial in being successful in the long run. Eating brown rice 3x a day when you hate it will always blow.
A lot of the physiques most here aspire towards or dream of aren’t likely achievable without the use of gear. [/quote]
No bash here but I haven’t been sore from a workout in over a year and I think most of sessions are quite successful and insanely voluminous.
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Yeah I know some don’t ever get sore. I guess that applies more for those that do, then lol.
And I don’t mean excruciatingly sore either. Just ya know, reaching across your body and feel the chest workout you had yesterday kind of sore. lol
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
That using a combination of IF and CBL successfully over the last year or so has allowed my body to handle carbs way better then it use to be able to.
That soreness is not only a good indicator of a good workout, but once a BP isn’t sore it means it’s probably about time to hit it again.
Shitty calves will only be slightly less shitty calves at best. Have yet to see a seriously impressive before and after of calve growth.
There seems to be a kind of stigma on getting most of your protein from whole foods as opposed to shakes, but I go through periods where 2/3 of my protein is from whey and I almost always feel better and less bloated.
Being big but not lean isn’t that much more impressive IMO then being lean and not that big. Big AND lean guys are who impress me.
Finding what foods make you look and feel good are crucial in being successful in the long run. Eating brown rice 3x a day when you hate it will always blow.
A lot of the physiques most here aspire towards or dream of aren’t likely achievable without the use of gear. [/quote]
No bash here but I haven’t been sore from a workout in over a year and I think most of sessions are quite successful and insanely voluminous.
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Yeah I know some don’t ever get sore. I guess that applies more for those that do, then lol.
And I don’t mean excruciatingly sore either. Just ya know, reaching across your body and feel the chest workout you had yesterday kind of sore. lol
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I only get sore after a long layoff which I can’t remeber when I had one of those lol. Other than that never. Lol
[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:
Too many people worry about tiny things that are completely inconsequential to the big picture in regards to lifting and nutrition.
“Oh I need to have BCAA’s or MAG-10 before a fasted walk otherwise my body will decompose” etc.[/quote]
Yep! These things become important once everything’s on point and has been for a few years. I just started adding BCAAs, HMB, and beta-alanine to my workout drink and have noticed a big improvement in endurance, volume, and recovery.
[quote]strongmanvinny wrote:
I don’t mean to appear as cocky, but I’m totally game to fight a 350 lb black bear. I feel like if I yoke 700lbs, deadlift significantly over the bears bodyweight, and can practically press the bear over my head…then I should definitely be able to take it in a fight. [/quote]
This reminds me of one of the greatest threads in T-Nation history: 100 people vs a bear
Do not start reading if you are crunched for time…
IIFYM, but nutrient timing can still effect performance so carbs around workout help with that aspect.
Layne Norton school of thought for natty bbing, you’re not gonna get huge without getting strong as fuck
“ramping” on all main movements (squat, dead, front squat, rack pull, bench, incline etc)
“Pump” training has a place but not as the sole mode of lifting
I need to try slowly gaining weight on my next “bulk” a pound a week leaves me fat at this stage in my lifting career.
Dave Tate said in an article if he could start all over he’d alternate bbing and powerlifting training blocks, this seems to work well. PHAT for bbing, westside variant for pling
The reason why ‘bulking’ and ‘cutting’ became a thing as opposed to just eating sufficient amounts of food to build muscle while staying lean over the course of one’s life is because natural bodybuilding is such a slow process. People want to see change and when you add 15 lbs of water, glycogen and intramuscular triglycerides in 2 weeks by overeating, you can definitely see change! I do not however, believe that you are actually building any more raw muscle tissue than if you were eating much more moderately. It’s just such a slow process that you can not really notice it without pictures.
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
People have bought into the idea that you can’t build muscle and lose fat at the same time, but have also bought into the idea that “recomping” is a viable strategy. Isn’t recomping (staying at the same body weight but improving body comp) just a form of gaining muscle and losing fat simultaneously?
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Everyone is different. A mesomorph who wants to drop a bit of fat will likely be able to recomp while an endomorph who wants to drop a bit of fat will likely require a significant calorie deficit.
The guy who’s loosing fat while eating 3500-6000 cal is obviously going to have different results than the guy who has to restrict himself to 2500 cal or less.
[quote]strongmanvinny wrote:
I don’t mean to appear as cocky, but I’m totally game to fight a 350 lb black bear. I feel like if I yoke 700lbs, deadlift significantly over the bears bodyweight, and can practically press the bear over my head…then I should definitely be able to take it in a fight. [/quote]
Fuck yes vinny that’s what I like to hear. I’d bet on you in that fight. Fuckin fantastic.
[quote]some_dude wrote:
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
People have bought into the idea that you can’t build muscle and lose fat at the same time, but have also bought into the idea that “recomping” is a viable strategy. Isn’t recomping (staying at the same body weight but improving body comp) just a form of gaining muscle and losing fat simultaneously?
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Everyone is different. A mesomorph who wants to drop a bit of fat will likely be able to recomp while an endomorph who wants to drop a bit of fat will likely require a significant calorie deficit.
The guy who’s loosing fat while eating 3500-6000 cal is obviously going to have different results than the guy who has to restrict himself to 2500 cal or less.[/quote]
I hear what you’re saying, but it appears to me the meso and endo can both “recomp”, it would just take a different balance of calories and macros for each.
And I just think if recomping is a viable strategy, I don’t know how people can argue that you can’t lose fat and gain muscle simultaneously.
But yeah, maybe some people can and some can’t, I don’t know. I’m just brainstorming here.
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
I hear what you’re saying, but it appears to me the meso and endo can both “recomp”, it would just take a different balance of calories and macros for each.
And I just think if recomping is a viable strategy, I don’t know how people can argue that you can’t lose fat and gain muscle simultaneously.
But yeah, maybe some people can and some can’t, I don’t know. I’m just brainstorming here. [/quote]
The more I try to type an intelligent answer the more I realize there’s too many variables involved and everything boils back down to everyone being different. Goals, body type, lifestyle, habits, work ethic, pain tolerance, etc…
I strongly believe that people should sack up and lift hard consistently while simultaneously eating lots of healthy food instead of trying to find the perfect plan/diet/supplement.
I strongly believe that I need to stop program jumping and be consistent with how I am lifting.
I strongly believe that Crossfit programmed with a specific strength goal in mind can be incredibly successful at accomplishing the programmed goal while improving overall conditioning.
I strongly believe that everyone should strive to be able to move properly through multiple ranges of motion with resistance.
I strongly believe that most people don’t have the stones to get big and lean and will use any excuse they can to avoid putting in the amount of hard work it takes.