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[quote]krummdiddy wrote:

[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
In the aggregate total, training lighter and smarter will lead to better strength than powerlifting type training. Being a little weaker now is more than compensated for by being stronger and still functional later.[/quote]

Not flaming: what does “better” strength mean?
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I also ask what is “power lifting” type training. When I was a power lifter I worked doing sets of 6-8 reps primarily and I have never been as strong as I was then… Not to mention today I went to the gym and worked up to a heavy set of 5 and when I went back to the lighter weight I was able to do more reps with the same weight I had used before… I would say that was “better” strength…[/quote]

I mean raw physical strength.

The integral of strength over lifetime. Training more like a bodybuilder you’ll be weaker now, but much stronger when you are older and not broken down. If you totaled your strength over your lifetime I believe lifting super heavy for long periods makes you weaker over all (at least for people whose bodies don’t take the abuse well).

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[quote]bpick86 wrote:

[quote]chimera182 wrote:

[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:

[quote]krummdiddy wrote:

[quote]bpick86 wrote:

[quote]chimera182 wrote:

[quote]bpick86 wrote:
Seriously about the African dogs, (that story fucked up my mood for like a month when it happened by the way), Any man that did not jump in after that child and try to help it, is not a man and they make me sick. They might have torn me apart, but I would have been in there trying to keep those dog’s attention until someone could have helped and if you had several men get in there I think that half domesticated animals would have just given up not thinking it was worth it. [/quote]

In the vein of not being flamed, I don’t think adults are automatically obligated to save children at the expense of their own lives.[/quote]

Not flaming, let me know if you feel like I am and I will alter the language. People who claim to be men, have the inherent duty to help those in need just because that is what a man does. If someone looks at another human being period being attacked and doesn’t think I have to help, then they have lost the most basic aspect of what makes them a man. When there is fight worth fighting, men run towards it and cowards stand by hoping someone will do something. [/quote]
a man will save a child at any cost…[/quote]

Right.

And who’s going to raise and support my three kids once I’m gone because I’ve been ripped apart by a pack of wild African dogs?
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That’s the point I was getting at, thanks!
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I don’t think it would be a conscious thought. And I don’t think the actual fight would have been as close to a deathmatch as everyone thinks. I really do believe that if someone bigger would have got in there and given them any kind of resistance they would have given up. Any animal that is used to being fed everyday is not going to have the same kill drive against opposition that a wild one does.

The keeper that got there first chased them away with a rake. And to your point about taking care of your children, soldiers make that sacrifice everyday. You don’t plan on dying but you do what you have to do and let the chips fall where they may.[/quote]
Basically this.
Either you are the type of person who helps those in need or you aren’t.
I don’t know this thread you guys are referencing but a pack of zoo dogs (seems this is what the situation was?) would more than likely easily chased off by an agressive fully grown adult.
Which is what happened when the worker ran in apparently.

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bpick, you seem like a good guy.

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[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

[quote]bpick86 wrote:

[quote]chimera182 wrote:

[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:

[quote]krummdiddy wrote:

[quote]bpick86 wrote:

[quote]chimera182 wrote:

[quote]bpick86 wrote:
Seriously about the African dogs, (that story fucked up my mood for like a month when it happened by the way), Any man that did not jump in after that child and try to help it, is not a man and they make me sick. They might have torn me apart, but I would have been in there trying to keep those dog’s attention until someone could have helped and if you had several men get in there I think that half domesticated animals would have just given up not thinking it was worth it. [/quote]

In the vein of not being flamed, I don’t think adults are automatically obligated to save children at the expense of their own lives.[/quote]

Not flaming, let me know if you feel like I am and I will alter the language. People who claim to be men, have the inherent duty to help those in need just because that is what a man does. If someone looks at another human being period being attacked and doesn’t think I have to help, then they have lost the most basic aspect of what makes them a man. When there is fight worth fighting, men run towards it and cowards stand by hoping someone will do something. [/quote]
a man will save a child at any cost…[/quote]

Right.

And who’s going to raise and support my three kids once I’m gone because I’ve been ripped apart by a pack of wild African dogs?
[/quote]

That’s the point I was getting at, thanks!
[/quote]

I don’t think it would be a conscious thought. And I don’t think the actual fight would have been as close to a deathmatch as everyone thinks. I really do believe that if someone bigger would have got in there and given them any kind of resistance they would have given up. Any animal that is used to being fed everyday is not going to have the same kill drive against opposition that a wild one does.

The keeper that got there first chased them away with a rake. And to your point about taking care of your children, soldiers make that sacrifice everyday. You don’t plan on dying but you do what you have to do and let the chips fall where they may.[/quote]
Basically this.
Either you are the type of person who helps those in need or you aren’t.
I don’t know this thread you guys are referencing but a pack of zoo dogs (seems this is what the situation was?) would more than likely easily chased off by an agressive fully grown adult.
Which is what happened when the worker ran in apparently.[/quote]

The number 1 rule of rescue is to not become a victim yourself.

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I believe that this is possibly one of, if not the most informative threads that I’ve ever read on T-Nation (claims about fighting bears and wild dogs aside)

I believe that any one who recommends Starting Strength as an intro program to an untrained, unathletic person should have to volunteer to coach said person on proper form and technique for at least 6 weeks - I also believe that Starting Strength the book is a great resource

I believe in a concept I would call training maturity - that is, a person has achieved training maturity when they come to an understanding of how to eat, lift and rest in order to achieve their personal goals confidently, consistently and without injury

I believe that form, posture and grace of movement are possibly the most important aspects of a persons physical existence. I would rather be able to move freely and fluidly and maintain good posture on any exercise than achieve any particular PR, 1rm or whatever

I believe that any one who neglects muscle quality work, mobility, activation etc. will eventually suffer an injury that either prevents them from working out or causes them to start accounting for those aspects of training.

I believe that I would be light years beyond where I am now in terms of physique if I had been an athletic teenager, but that for some one who was fat as shit until age 25 that I look pretty awesome and consistently kick ass in the gym

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I believe when I fap that a kitten dies somewhere in the world.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:
I believe when I fap that a kitten dies somewhere in the world. [/quote]

lol.

I do think that is a big part impotence and other sexual problems today up to the point of ending marriages.

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

[quote]bpick86 wrote:

[quote]chimera182 wrote:

[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:

[quote]krummdiddy wrote:

[quote]bpick86 wrote:

[quote]chimera182 wrote:

[quote]bpick86 wrote:
Seriously about the African dogs, (that story fucked up my mood for like a month when it happened by the way), Any man that did not jump in after that child and try to help it, is not a man and they make me sick. They might have torn me apart, but I would have been in there trying to keep those dog’s attention until someone could have helped and if you had several men get in there I think that half domesticated animals would have just given up not thinking it was worth it. [/quote]

In the vein of not being flamed, I don’t think adults are automatically obligated to save children at the expense of their own lives.[/quote]

Not flaming, let me know if you feel like I am and I will alter the language. People who claim to be men, have the inherent duty to help those in need just because that is what a man does. If someone looks at another human being period being attacked and doesn’t think I have to help, then they have lost the most basic aspect of what makes them a man. When there is fight worth fighting, men run towards it and cowards stand by hoping someone will do something. [/quote]
a man will save a child at any cost…[/quote]

Right.

And who’s going to raise and support my three kids once I’m gone because I’ve been ripped apart by a pack of wild African dogs?
[/quote]

That’s the point I was getting at, thanks!
[/quote]

I don’t think it would be a conscious thought. And I don’t think the actual fight would have been as close to a deathmatch as everyone thinks. I really do believe that if someone bigger would have got in there and given them any kind of resistance they would have given up. Any animal that is used to being fed everyday is not going to have the same kill drive against opposition that a wild one does.

The keeper that got there first chased them away with a rake. And to your point about taking care of your children, soldiers make that sacrifice everyday. You don’t plan on dying but you do what you have to do and let the chips fall where they may.[/quote]
Basically this.
Either you are the type of person who helps those in need or you aren’t.
I don’t know this thread you guys are referencing but a pack of zoo dogs (seems this is what the situation was?) would more than likely easily chased off by an agressive fully grown adult.
Which is what happened when the worker ran in apparently.[/quote]

The number 1 rule of rescue is to not become a victim yourself. [/quote]
You wouldn’t jump in the enclosure thinking you were potentially becoming a victim.
Just as a firefighter wouldn’t enter a building to rescue a trapped person thinking they were potentially becing a victim.
Stuff happens some times though.
Unfortunately.

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But I digress.
Flame free zone :slight_smile:

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[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
You wouldn’t jump in the enclosure thinking you were potentially becoming a victim.
Just as a firefighter wouldn’t enter a building to rescue a trapped person thinking they were potentially becing a victim.
Stuff happens some times though.
Unfortunately.[/quote]

It’s not about if there is any risk, it’s about reasonable risk. A firefighter shouldn’t go into a fully involved building to rescue someone without turnout gear, that would be stupid.

You can sit here an talk all you want about what a “man” should do. Until you are actually jumping into a pit of wild dogs, you have no idea what you’d have done.

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
You wouldn’t jump in the enclosure thinking you were potentially becoming a victim.
Just as a firefighter wouldn’t enter a building to rescue a trapped person thinking they were potentially becing a victim.
Stuff happens some times though.
Unfortunately.[/quote]

It’s not about if there is any risk, it’s about reasonable risk. A firefighter shouldn’t go into a fully involved building to rescue someone without turnout gear, that would be stupid.

You can sit here an talk all you want about what a “man” should do. Until you are actually jumping into a pit of wild dogs, you have no idea what you’d have done.[/quote]
I know a firefighter wouldn’t go into a building without turnouts, a BA, a partner and hopefully not without RIC in place, I am a firefighter lol
I never said anything about “what a ‘man’ would do”, that was another poster.
Like I said before, everyone is different and there are different types of people in the world.
I know what I would have done.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:
I believe when I fap that a kitten dies somewhere in the world. [/quote]

Better go with two then.

Don’t tell MBG.

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I know what you are talking about DoubleDuece.
Minimizing risk and all that.

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[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
I believe when I fap that a kitten dies somewhere in the world. [/quote]

Better go with two then.

Don’t tell MBG.[/quote]
Don’t show this to the Pulling Off the Bald Look guy.

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
I believe when I fap that a kitten dies somewhere in the world. [/quote]

lol.

I do think that is a big part impotence and other sexual problems today up to the point of ending marriages.[/quote]

I think the stigma of Drs have to deal with prescribing hormone replacement to men has to do with that. NO issues writing for a woman (as long as she doesnt smoke) but OH MY GOD to give to a man the DEA will pick the meat off your bones.

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[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
I don’t know this thread you guys are referencing but a pack of zoo dogs (seems this is what the situation was?) would more than likely easily chased off by an agressive fully grown adult.[/quote]

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[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
I believe when I fap that a kitten dies somewhere in the world. [/quote]

Better go with two then.

Don’t tell MBG.[/quote]
Don’t show this to the Pulling Off the Bald Look guy.[/quote]
Well according to him he has smashed these two girls plus their younger sisters.

Dont believe me just ask him

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[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
I don’t know this thread you guys are referencing but a pack of zoo dogs (seems this is what the situation was?) would more than likely easily chased off by an agressive fully grown adult.[/quote]
[/quote]
Consider it pounded bro.

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[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

[quote]bpick86 wrote:

[quote]chimera182 wrote:

[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:

[quote]krummdiddy wrote:

[quote]bpick86 wrote:

[quote]chimera182 wrote:

[quote]bpick86 wrote:
Seriously about the African dogs, (that story fucked up my mood for like a month when it happened by the way), Any man that did not jump in after that child and try to help it, is not a man and they make me sick. They might have torn me apart, but I would have been in there trying to keep those dog’s attention until someone could have helped and if you had several men get in there I think that half domesticated animals would have just given up not thinking it was worth it. [/quote]

In the vein of not being flamed, I don’t think adults are automatically obligated to save children at the expense of their own lives.[/quote]

Not flaming, let me know if you feel like I am and I will alter the language. People who claim to be men, have the inherent duty to help those in need just because that is what a man does. If someone looks at another human being period being attacked and doesn’t think I have to help, then they have lost the most basic aspect of what makes them a man. When there is fight worth fighting, men run towards it and cowards stand by hoping someone will do something. [/quote]
a man will save a child at any cost…[/quote]

Right.

And who’s going to raise and support my three kids once I’m gone because I’ve been ripped apart by a pack of wild African dogs?
[/quote]

That’s the point I was getting at, thanks!
[/quote]

I don’t think it would be a conscious thought. And I don’t think the actual fight would have been as close to a deathmatch as everyone thinks. I really do believe that if someone bigger would have got in there and given them any kind of resistance they would have given up. Any animal that is used to being fed everyday is not going to have the same kill drive against opposition that a wild one does.

The keeper that got there first chased them away with a rake. And to your point about taking care of your children, soldiers make that sacrifice everyday. You don’t plan on dying but you do what you have to do and let the chips fall where they may.[/quote]
Basically this.
Either you are the type of person who helps those in need or you aren’t.
I don’t know this thread you guys are referencing but a pack of zoo dogs (seems this is what the situation was?) would more than likely easily chased off by an agressive fully grown adult.
Which is what happened when the worker ran in apparently.[/quote]

I wasn’t aware that people were referencing something that actually happened. I suppose my theory is that people generally don’t stand a chance against animals that kill things with their face. If you had a weapon and they were domesticated(ish) then that changes things.

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