The “Big Four” sounds like some half-assed Football athletic conference.
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Would those individuals be better served by self control and voluntary caloric restriction? Perhaps with counseling from a shrink and a RD.
Bariatric surgery is basically akin to putting a Hannibal mask on. Yeah it stops the overeating behavior, but you could have done that without a scalpel.
Elective surgery has some serious risks that eating less doesn’t have.
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Of course, weight control absent surgery is the preferred option. But there are many, many people that, for whatever reasons(s), are unable to do this. This includes the overwhelming majority of obese, morbidly obese and ‘super-obese’ individuals.
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Dont get me wrong… I know in some situations it is needed for extreme situations. I just question the medical need in some situation since the procedure is so common anymore it seems.
Gotcha, thanks.
Like I said … Ive known 4 people whom has had it done. Out of the 4 probably 3 of them could have simply corrected the situation by some minor behavior changes, they honestly were not in a drastic health situation. The 4th was a 560lbs guy who I can honestly say was past the point of no return where there was no other option. Which in his case did save his life in the long term…
It just bothers me that some people seem to have a mind set that its a easy out .
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My favorite is the people who get the procedure done more than once. Because they got heavy again.
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There are a number of different surgical approaches, some of which yield far better/longer-lasting results than do others.
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The two people I’m thinking of had a procedure. Lost >100 lbs and gained it all back not 5 years later. So I don’t think the choice of procedure is what hung them up.
I get what you’re saying though.
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My BFF’s wife had it done years ago, when it was a relatively new procedure. They screwed it up, and it she died from complications.
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Damn, that’s harsh. Did she actually need the procedure though?
Well she was large, and a diabetic. She had to go on an extreme diet before they could do the surgery and did great. She lost over 100lbs and no longer needed insulin. He tried talk her out of having it done, since what she was doing was working. The surgeon kept telling her she needed it. She got the surgery done. She got really sick, and died. Not sure of all the details. I think there were other factors involved, but the surgery made her so weak, they could not treat them.
Confession: I have major distrust (borderline contempt) towards most people in the health/pharmacy profession. Due to that I have been to a hospital once in the last 15-20 years (piece of metal in eye) and Ive been to a doctor about 3 times (once was for a mandatory health check).
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Why? Im an ER Nurse so I’m curious.
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The fact that this is free on the NHS does my head in. I can understand in some situations it could be needed as you said but still.
They love to prescribe drugs.
I feel that the industry is trying to make people ‘dependent’ on doctors and pharmaceutical medication.
Antibiotics seem to be the answer to every ailment. It doesn’t help that the MDs are endorsed by Big Pharma.
I don’t know all the details but this is how it comes across to me…
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Doctors and pharmacists and nurses, etc are simply regular people. And there are many types of regular people - some are corrupt, some are good, and all the shades of grey in between.
After my family doctor died (he was a good dude), I had to go through four others before I found another decent dude. He’s a specialist, so my co-pay is higher, but paying the money is worth it.
Maybe just shop around until you find somebody you mesh with. They’re just regular people with internal motives and political beliefs that drive how they do what they do.
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Usually how it goes honestly. You have to pay more to get someone who actually gives a fuck and doesn’t down you for not loving pills and working out too hard. Growing up with hemophilia it’s hard to find anyone who even really gets what I’m talking about and I wind up explaining it to them. But I agree, they’re just people and there’s good ones and bad ones; just gotta find the good ones.
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Next door to my gym is a fast food joint called Jack’s. The last few weeks I’ve made a habit of stopping in there before I walk in the gym. Not to eat fast food, just to blow their toilet up instead of my gym’s, cuz for some reason my morning glory never decides to try to make a appearance til I’m half way to the gym
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I don’t blame you and share similar feelings. My ill will goes more towards family practitioners and the average doctor at the office. In my line of work (police) it seems like every person I deal with is bipolar, depressed, anxious, and ADHD. They get free meds; they go on disability and get free money. Most of these people are just immature brats. It seems that if you go to the doctor enough, or go to enough doctors, you can get diagnosed and labeled with a disease which justifies you sitting on your ass receiving disability instead of working.
We need more doctors who are slow to prescribe and quick to encourage lifestyle changes. Feeling depressed? How about they prescribe a personal trainer? I’d rather see my insurance premiums pay for that than drugs.
I know it’s possible and it’s chemicals and blah blah blah blah but it still blows my mind the amount of people on meds for depression AND anxiety. Those are contradicting ailments. You prescribe a stimulant for anxiety so the body releases the natural chemicals to balance you out. How can that happen if you’re also prescribed a depressant for your depression?
This case I worked explains it all:
Man calls in to report his wife has his car. She’s revoked for multiple DUI’s and he’s concerned he’ll be held accountable for her driving. I arrived and he’s drunk at 9 in the morning. He tells me how he’s all concerned about being held liable. I explain that would never happen. He finishes by telling me he just wants us to go get the car and return it to him. He admits that they’re married and he never drives the car. I finish up with him and he says he has to go inside and take his insulin…again he’s so drunk that I can smell it on him while we’re in his front yard and the wind is blowing 20+ mph. (he’s real concerned about that diabetes, right?)
Wife shows up a couple blocks away and flags me down. She sober and in the vehicle. She says she left because she’s scared of him. He’s abusive and she’s trying to divorce him. He’s trying to get her in trouble any way he can. While interviewing her I ask her what her husband does. She says he’s on disability. I say “what’s his disability?” Her response, “Nothing. He’s just lazy.”
And that epitomizes what’s wrong with our world right now. American taxpayer’s money hard at work supporting lazy people. I see it day in and day out. It’s sickening.
Side note: We have multiple businesses here that employ mentally retarded and other mentally disabled people. They have housing for them, give them rides to and from work, and these people actually do productive work. How can these people contribute to society but all these lazy people with their so called disorders who have 100% of their physical abilities can’t?
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