I don’t really care. I don’t care about drug use. I do care when people interject their impressive feats accomplished with the help of PEDs in a conversation geared towards average people.
I don’t find low body fat impressive if you used drugs to get there. And if you got to eat more than the average person while getting lean then it might be easier to maintain or improve your strength (also with the help of drugs).
My problem with this is that no one asked him. Lee’s target audience is average Joe.
Paul has become the classic Tommy Topper.
Also, I confess that I think powerlifting is the dumbest fuckin sport in the world, narrowly edging out bull riding.
And just when I think it couldn’t get any dumber, I hear powerlifters ragging on OHP as a stupid competition lift because it’s “just standing bench” while simultaneously defending back bridge bench press with a 2 inch ROM and the arms not even breaking 45 degrees.
Apparently tag is a pro sport now, I watched a couple rounds of the tag championships, and it’s way more interesting than powerlifting. Anything is.
I would be interested when he did it also.far as I known he claimed he was done worried about strength when he started focusing on being lean awhile back ago.
Gotta chuckle at it.
“Stupid strongman hitching deadlifts with straps and bouncy reps cheaty cheat cheat”
“Dude: you pull sumo”
“GASP HOW DARE YOU!”
Any PL claiming a ohp is nothing more then a standing bench press needs to learn biomechanics!
you wear a belt and wear wrist wraps?.. THATS NOT RAWWWWWW!!! (stupidly at its finest)
Powerlifters:
THIS IS A HIGH SQUAT DISQUALIFY HIM ITS NOT A WORLD RECORD
Also Powerlifters:
THIS IS A LEGIT BENCH ANYBODY WHO SAYS IT ISNT IS AN IDIOT
POWERLIFTERS: We need to unify the sport.
ALSO POWERLIFTERS: But people should only compete the way I want to compete.
What I want to know is where all these people saying these things are. I know quite a few powerlifters, of different levels, equipped, raw, tested, untested, on, off you name it. None of them say shit like that. We just don’t care.
Fair point. Should be “powerlifters”
Probably. At a guess, they are either people who have never competed but call themselves powerlifters because they train the squat, bench and deadlift; or people who have competed once or twice, done badly and took it personally.
Ivan Makarov looks like he will deadlift 501kg in December to beat Eddie Halls World Record. Between the powerlifters out there that haven’t clued on that powerlifting isn’t the only sport that has the deadlift and Hall’s fanbois, it will be a hell of a day (on the internet)
Honestly, it’s a knock at specific people and the rules of powerlifting. There are tons of powerlifters I revere on here. These people saying stuff about bench and OHP, that’s from powerlifters on here, in this forum. I’m referencing a couple older threads.
But my criticism of the sport, as it is, has nothing to do with the pursuit of strength, or any of the much-stronger-than-me people I interact with and respect. It’s just some light trolling, no offense meant.
None taken 
Also, for those who aren’t aware there is currently a push by Therapeutic Goods Australia to introduce much stricter controls on sports and health supplements and the industry is losing its shit. The general gist is that TGA wants certain supplements to be subject to the same manufacturing requirements as medicines, while currently they are classed as foods. TGA has said that things like protein powder are not the intended target of these changes.
What I’m finding really, REALLY funny is how the various companies are appealing to their customers to oppose these changes during the consultation process. Because, apparently, making sure various products that are taken in the same way as medicines, are manufactured as medicines, is very bad for the industry.
I talk to slot of powerlifters and I’ve never ever heard this. think its a pretty fringe idea. More often than not they think it would be a good substitute for the bench, but just don’t think it’s a good idea to have another federation in order to do so.
I agree here though, you look at a Berglund bench and it’s a feat of acrobatics, not strength.
Personally I think the solution to the bench press is everyone does floor press. You can set up your shoulders at any angle you want, to satisfy the ‘but muh shoulder health’ crowd, the only stipulation is that your elbows have to come to a stop touching the floor before you get the press command.
I think some people’s bench will go up, those that can’t arch, those with big arches bench will go down. It’s a different and non comparable movement, but it absolutely does measure strength in the same muscle groups.
I have no solutions or reasonable commentary, only knee-jerk criticism, haha. My thing isn’t about changing bench rules to fix arching, it’s about doing away with other silly rules. It’s either all cheating or it’s not.
I’m not saying it’s cheating, arching is within the rules and I have no problem with people doing it in competition. I just think it’s a poor feat of strength with arches in play, so everything outside of the heavyweight classes.
Its interesting when you look at the history of powerlifting, when it first started as varied feats of strength, it was squat and deadlift much as they are now, often overhead press, and then a ‘press’. It was something halfway between a floor press and bench press. You set up like a floor press, but the rule was bar to chest rather than elbow to floor. This lead to people lifting their bodies, sinking the bar into their stomach and heaving it back up, more like a glorified hip thrust than a press. Some dude thought this wasn’t the point of the feat, and that’s when strict powerlifting rules for bench press, including the bench, came about. I personally think they should have just changed the rules to say bum stays on the floor and elbows touch the floor.