I’d always thought Texas would be the perfect place for me to try my steak only diet?
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Hahaha. I just keep my mouth shut. I kinda feel sorry for the guy though. Most likely made more problems for himself than there really is.
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I worked in Texas a lot when I was low carbing, ate a ton of brisket.
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Me too! If I could afford it. Where I live that’s the most expensive thing in town to eat. I can eat $25-50 at for lunch. My pockets aren’t deep enough to do that very often.
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Its actually a really tough situation. You see that mindset, the ‘doctors are idiots’ one, a lot from guys going through the TRT process in the UK and America. Most of my closest friends are doctors and they will be the first to admit that in certain areas, endocrinology outside of the elderly and diabetics being a specific example they give, medical training is not great because the training has to focus on the numbers game and they can’t be experts everywhere. The problem is when people assume this means they are idiots, or untrained in everything, rather than that there are specific shortcomings in areas they receive little training like nutrition and pre elderly TRT.
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I have been doing a pretty good job at this lately. Ain’t a bad way to get fat 
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Hell yes!
Agreed. Endo is a really tricky thing. The system has its flaws too (much like any man-made system). Having an attitude of “I want these meds now” and “I’m paying so I better get what I want” doesn’t help either.
Probably makes the docs less likely to listen rather than more likely, and there’s your downward spiral.
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I was talking with a friend and he related to me that for an office visit, an MD has about 11 minutes to meet and move forward with a course of action for a given patient. Then I went to my cardiologists for a check up, and sure enough, the check up/discussion/going forward was about 11 minutes. And that is with a clear and full history of the condition of a patient that is like 99.9% compliant. It even left time to talk about some lifting recommendations and supplements, which I thought was quite nice
That’s no time at all though to bring someone from thinking you’re an idiot to trusting your medical advice, sleuthing through various and sundry obfuscations and symptoms and busting down a wall of internet research/bro science cemented in place by confirmation bias.
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I know, I know. We had the football game on late and I didn’t get enough sleep. I should have spent my coffee time reading something pleasant, like a romance novel.
Although I will say that I had an outstanding workout despite having done something to my back yesterday and having a sleep deficit, so maybe I should keep reading it and getting all worked up.
Agree, but there comes a time to show humility and hope you’ve got a doc who’ll work to put the pieces together. Because:
Exactly. And:
Exactly.
Lemon grass and rosemary essential oils?!?
As a cure you mean? I went with Advil and HIIT. Seems better.
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Agree also, but I can understand how frustrating it is having gone through the process myself. There really is an extent to which they just don’t want to hear it because you don’t fit the boxes, and I certainly wasn’t going in guns blazing making any demands whatsoever. It’s human nature to respond poorly to feeling like you aren’t being listened to.
Don’t disagree with anything you said, though. Just because it’s hard to do doesn’t mean it’s not the right thing to do.
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And to clarify, it wasn’t his medical situation I was responding to, it was that things are going so poorly medically (regarding which I am sympathetic) and yet he is offering advice. I think there should come a point where you say to yourself, “maybe I’m not the one to advise, as I may not have the bead on this I thought I did.”
That really was my point this morning.
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Probably is. Just a little riff on the general subject.
I definitely got a strong whiff of irony reading through some recent posts, if I’m thinking of the same individual (I am).
Wait…the general subject of my fellow-poster complaint, or the general subject of crippling oneself?
Editing because I meant to quote this:
The general subject of crippling oneself.
Then self diagnosing and treating with something one would rather believe (like bleach for autism, essential oils for everything) and the general danger of internet advice.
All tinted with a bit of gallows humor, as I’m well aware that I smoked myself into CHF, 3 stents and a STEMI playing the fools wager of “Well, I work out and take a vitamin so…”.
Not laughing that you may have hurt yourself to some extent though. That actually does kinda suck, and I hope it loosened up and feels better soon.
I was going to take some orange juice (1.25 oz) if it doesn’t.
I have a history of bad behaviors health-wise, and I content myself with feeling that as long as I’ve made the good faith effort to stop, I get to cut myself some slack. Maya Angelo said “We did the best we knew how to do; when we knew better, we did better.” Although I’m not a big fan of hers, I really like that and find it helpful for all sorts of things.
At one time I thought smoking was needed. So despite knowing it wasn’t good for me, I did it because I thought it helped me somehow. And maybe at one time it WAS needed, who knows. But now I know better. What’s REALLY needed are some AAS! lol
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