The Flame-Free Confession Thread II

My wife came with me one time, and one time only. Seemed perfect. A totally decked out gym in the house of an ISSN, CSCS, Md.,PhD, etc…

But it was m.e. Squats day for my buddy and he dumped like 700+ lbs. and it sounded like the world was ending, then I bailed on a 3 some board press while another guy was doing deads, in a giant calamitous symphony of crashing plates and dropped bars.

She went and hid in the car never to return, and expressed dismay at the new type and level of crazy she had just been exposed to.

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I don’t mind dumping weights. I just get pissy when I do.

Oh I’m safe with the cost of the rack.it’s the additional cost of the mono lift attachment that’s going to send me to the ER.:disappointed_relieved:

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I sidetracked myself, but my point was that it’s ok to do what ever you have to do to squat with confidence. The psychological side of performance is just as important as the physical conditioning.

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I confess that I really don’t know what to do, and I’m just here to crowdsource opinions on the most frequented thread on the forum.

I left my old company (big corporation) two years ago. They had cut hours, taken away matching for our 401Ks, and when they offered me the plant supervisor position, they brought me into a room with a guy who they had just recently hired and knew virtually nothing about the business as a whole, and offered me a $2 raise, which was insulting enough without also putting me at a gross income that was less than the minimum salary range for a machinist lead (a salary range that the company had recently paid another company to figure out, and then handed out sheets to all of us with those salary ranges on it). Needless to say, when our competitor - a private company - offered me a job for more $$, i took it. Put a months notice in since I was a supervisor - they let me on the spot, the day I told them.

Fast forward 2 years. My new company gets rid of HR and assigns the CFO of the company to be HR as well (conflict of interest?). Our health insurance costs are through the roof - I’m paying a TON of money every paycheck and our deductible is $5000 individual, $10,000 family. The state of the plant is abysmal. I guess the company doesn’t want to clean up properly since it costs a lot, but I’m literally working in a living OSHA violation. Pools of chromic acid and copper sulfate in unventilated plating areas. Hoists that groan and shriek when you lift the cylinders (which are up to 5 tons). Lead paint, since the building is from the 40s. Despite all this I’ve sucked it up, made evening plant supervisor, and have an interview this week for day supervisor. Biggest position underneath the plant manager. Only problem is, the entirety of day shift consists of 99% of 50-60 year old trade workers, most of whom are a couple years from retiring, never hustle to get anything done, and already resent me for being the rising young guy in the company. I’ve already caught and called out people for trying to blame my shift for stuff after fucking it up themselves. Then there’s the fact that nobody gets fired, ever. We have people that miss a day a week. One guy no call/no showed for 2 days, turns out he was in jail, was told he had one more chance, and when I needed him to do something one evening and he was gone. Didn’t tell me, didn’t do his job, just left early. Called the plant manager and said fire him, the next day they call me in to rip him a new one while they sit there, and then they give him another chance. It’s a management nightmare, and the last two people that had this job were fired in the past year, because if things get fucked up the plant manager will put it all on you. Point being, I’m concerned about being set up to fail, and the fact that this will be the ceiling of where I end up and what I earn at this company.

MEANWHILE, my old company got rid of its plant manager, brought back matching 401Ks, got a new CEO (big deal since we’re international), and gave Raises all around. Well, they called me back and offered me a job today. More money, better health insurance, and their manufacturing plant is spotless - I go home now with acid holes in my shirt and covered in grime head to toe, they provide work uniforms and you could eat off their floor.

I’ve never not gone upwards in a company, I’m always learning and aiming for the next position up, but I’m at an impasse here. Am I just giving up on a new position before I get it, or have I just been trying to make this new job work for a couple years to justify leaving my old company? Or am I just stuck between a Giant Douche and a Turd Sandwich?

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Based on what you’ve told us, IMO it’s this…

It sounds like your old company have sorted themselves out.

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I agree w/ @yorkshireiron. I think the decision’s pretty much made

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To me this just looks like a no brainer.

A horrible environment where you aren’t compensated, or appreciated for what you do. And your opinion isn’t valued.

vs

They approached you, meaning they know your value. even if you aren’t financially driven remuneration has a bigger meaning than just how much you can spend.

The move is a win win.

The hesitation feels a little to me like you’re suffering from the sunk cost fallacy? It’s understandable, it’s reminiscent to me of someone holding on to a dieing relationship with bloody fingertips because they didn’t want the effort they’d put in to be wasted, and they didn’t want to ‘fail’ at something they tried.

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Time to go man. Change is hard but sounds like it’s the right choice. And if it’s not, atleast you’re in a better spot while you look for the next thing!

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I’m studying this in one of my classes right now. I would have said Status quo bias, but based on the description, there’s no utility lost if @flappinit were to switch jobs

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Could be, maybe i’m projecting, but based on his explaination it would only be the emotional pull of seeing whether I got the job I was trying, and had worked, for that would make me even remotely consider staying, again based on the description.

But given how rosy a picture @flappinit paints of the new plant, and the gotham-esque people-falliing-into-vats-of-acid picture depicted for the current plant, I think he’s trying to convince himself to go, or that its justified at least.

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This.

I’ve worked in a couple of hell holes. You are in a hell hole.

I can’t give vocational advice, but you know your situation as well as anybody can.

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Which rack did you end up going with?
A little late for this comment to matter, but we have the X-3 Tall Titan rack at my coach’s gym and it is extremely solid. We also have the monolith attachment (2"x2") that we use on another rack and it works great (unfortunately the only rack we have that it fits on is a POS).
I think you’ll be very pleased with their products.
I’ve had a shopping cart full of stuff on Titan’s website for awhile now, in a couple of months it is going to be Merry Christmas to me.

At least the floor is going to shine!

Seriously, don’t wait around until they leave the watertight door open the next time they dive.

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If/When you leave, post this shit all over social media as a final F you. This plant deserves to be shut down ASAP

Eh. I wouldn’t do that.

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Haha, I’ll probably end up leaving, @Pinkylifting really hit the nail on the head- I’m passionate about my work and proud of it, I learn everything I can and then outwork anyone I can to get up there, and it’s been a couple years of grinding to get a spot over people with 35+ years of experience, and I hate to throw it away.

But it gave me more knowledge and made me better at my trade, so I guess it’s not a throwaway after all.

I would add: I never burn bridges. If they wanna be dicks when I leave, so be it - but business connections are important to me.

My sister works in environmental regulations of manufacturing plants (LOL), and wants me to report them. They’d get shut down. I have friends who work here. Can’t do it. But it is certainly unethical what they’re doing.

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IMO there’s a big difference between endangering the lives of others and “business connections”

Chromium Acid is no joke. My HS science teacher (a chemist) used to work at a plant as a consultant or something and one of his friends slipped and spilled some on his pants…they couldn’t save him

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Honestly, as long as you amend your statement to be “report them to OSHA” and not “put it out over social media” you’d be ethically sound here. I’m not even disagreeing with you, I’m just saying these guys know where they’re working and have been there for a long time, and the shareholders and the owner could just gut the company, sell the equipment, and all be fine, and the workers would be the only ones to suffer, as ironic as it sounds.

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