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[quote]Silyak wrote:

[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
I may be incorrect on this, but I remember an article or news item from a couple of years ago that showed that in the long run, healthier people cost the healthcare system more money.

Found it

I can’t comment on the validity of it, too busy right now[/quote]

The proper way to measure this would be dollars per person per year. Not dollars per person over the course of a lifetime. A person that lives longer will also produce more and create more tax revenue.

I don’t mind fat people. But fat acceptance is ultimately disingenuous. If fat people were happy being fat, they wouldn’t need to convince anyone else of the awesomeness of being fat.

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Good points

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[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]Facepalm_Death wrote:

[quote]marrot wrote:
Meh.

She makes more money slingin those fatkinis than we ever could bitchin about em.

Haters mad because they can’t corner an entire niche market single handedly.[/quote]

Haters are mad because the niche market exists.

Look, I guarantee the quest to make bobs bigger has been going on for millennia. 3000 years ago some primitive witch doctor or shaman was making some potion to make his wife boobs bigger. Of course it didn’t work because science. Plastic surgery came along and that was the end of that story, but the intent has always been there, its instinct.

No one has tried to make morbid obesity sexy/acceptable until the past decade[/quote]

Wrong. Venus figurine from 8000 years ago.
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Yeah well, we dont really know what they saw in these figurines.

Now I am no anthropoligist but I would wager that “eating” was quite a bit more important than “fucking”.[/quote]

The figurines represent fertility and life, not obesity. The swollen breasts and belly symbolize perpetual pregnancy.
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And the guy with the conch chundering behind fatty’s boombatty represents what, exactly? Answers on a postcard to the usual address

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[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Facepalm_Death wrote:

[quote]marrot wrote:
Meh.

She makes more money slingin those fatkinis than we ever could bitchin about em.

Haters mad because they can’t corner an entire niche market single handedly.[/quote]

Haters are mad because the niche market exists.

Look, I guarantee the quest to make bobs bigger has been going on for millennia. 3000 years ago some primitive witch doctor or shaman was making some potion to make his wife boobs bigger. Of course it didn’t work because science. Plastic surgery came along and that was the end of that story, but the intent has always been there, its instinct.

No one has tried to make morbid obesity sexy/acceptable until the past decade[/quote]

Yeah, no. As Varq indicates, fat has represented fertility and wealth throughout most of history. [/quote]

I don’t know what to make of this because I’m convinced I’m genetically predisposed to liking girls thinner. As a child I remember liking girls butts to look a certain way and I’m pretty sure media didn’t imprint that preference on me. I grew up watching tv in the 70s and in the 70s they didn’t even show butts on tv.

They showed so little ass on tv in the that I can even remember the first time I saw nice ass on tv. It was a movie with Pam Dauber that was about a guy and girl who got a hold of some magic watch that could stop time. Pam had a damn sexy ass and that movie might just have triggered me to hit puberty. Mork & Mindy was still running at that time and that movie renewed my interest in watching it. I gave up quickly though because they NEVER showed Pam’s ass on M&M.

The next time I saw nice ass on tv was years later when I was in High school. An episode of Matt Houston where Matt went to some cattle ranch where there were a bunch of models shooting a jeans commercial. That episode may have planted the seed in me to later go on and start the epic SAMA thread Girls in Cowboy Hats (thanks to MaximusB for making that an epic thread).

Point being, in about a 6 year period I saw nice ass on tv only twice so I doubt media influenced my taste. My taste is hard wired. Heck, did we ever actually see Daisy Duke’s ass? I think we only saw her from the front.

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Yeah, no. Sorry, rejected. Before Mork and Mindy you had as an infant (I guess?) either The Brady Bunch and Partridge Family or Goldie Hawn during the Laugh-In years. I Dream of Jeanie? Ginger and Mary Ann?

Whether or not you saw June Cleaver’s ass, the remainder of her indicated its size. I’m sure once you were interested, you could extrapolate. The same would be true of all the not-actually-seen asses.

In the industrialized world, where everyone sits around, not just the wealthy, physical health and fitness signify wealth.

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Goldie for ass extrapolation purposes.

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[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
Goldie for ass extrapolation purposes.[/quote]

okay, this sounds amazing…

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For the Europeans or more internationally acquainted folk out there, can we get some perspective on how some cultures in Europe deal with weight? Does the issue carry the same… weight, as it does in America?

In Japan, commenting on weight can pretty much be an ice breaker for someone you haven’t seen in a long time.

I’d really like to know if this is even an “issue” elsewhere, or if the ever dramatic portion of America’s population are just being dramatic and noisy again.

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[quote]Sutebun wrote:
For the Europeans or more internationally acquainted folk out there, can we get some perspective on how some cultures in Europe deal with weight? Does the issue carry the same… weight, as it does in America?

In Japan, commenting on weight can pretty much be an ice breaker for someone you haven’t seen in a long time.

I’d really like to know if this is even an “issue” elsewhere, or if the ever dramatic portion of America’s population are just being dramatic and noisy again.

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Spent some time in Russia and Romania a while back on business…the thing that jumped out at me almost immediately was how many attractive females there were. It took me a little longer to figure out why: I don’t recall seeing one “young” overweight woman the entire time I was there. I’m not saying they were all fitness models, just not overweight.

Spent over a year in China, and while I’m not really attracted to Chinese women (not enough hip/ass), there weren’t many overweight girls there either. I hear it’s getting worse now, but I haven’t been there in 7 years so I can’t confirm.

My conclusion was/is that there is a lot of “wasted potential” when it comes to the number of attractive women in The States. I’m sure the same could be said of the men here too.

I don’t think it’s overreacting or being dramatic when it bothers you that 1 out of 3 American adults is obese, regardless of how the rest of the world sees it.

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About obesity in the US, I went camping with one of my kid’s Girl Scout troop last spring.

I’d say approximately 1/3 of the little 10-year-old girls were already heavy, a couple of them seriously so. Mealtime just blew me away. Some of the girls put down 2 HUGE egg burritos, bacon, and then ate one of those enormous Costco muffins or a huge bowl of sugared cereal for breakfast. You have to wonder how they eat at home, right? The leader who helped them plan the food was overweight herself. Sad to see these eating habits being passed on to their kids.

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[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
Goldie for ass extrapolation purposes.[/quote]

Goldie explains time zones

Now back to our thread

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[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

[quote]Sutebun wrote:
For the Europeans or more internationally acquainted folk out there, can we get some perspective on how some cultures in Europe deal with weight? Does the issue carry the same… weight, as it does in America?

In Japan, commenting on weight can pretty much be an ice breaker for someone you haven’t seen in a long time.

I’d really like to know if this is even an “issue” elsewhere, or if the ever dramatic portion of America’s population are just being dramatic and noisy again.

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I don’t think it’s overreacting or being dramatic when it bothers you that 1 out of 3 American adults is obese, regardless of how the rest of the world sees it.[/quote]

Ha! I meant it in the opposite way :slight_smile: I think the bigger people need to chill. Simply discussing weight or pointing out that someone is obese - or holding the opinion that they need to take responsibility for their weight - does not qualify as shaming or harassment. I honestly wonder how much more harassment these people face compared to any other person who is differentiated from the “average”.

I talked about it once with the old Japanese dude (70) who runs the gym I go to. He likened it to people who handle their money poorly and are always in debt or never have money. In that it shows a lack of self-control and proper discipline. I think there are definitely a lot of parallels to draw from this comparison.

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[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

[quote]Sutebun wrote:
For the Europeans or more internationally acquainted folk out there, can we get some perspective on how some cultures in Europe deal with weight? Does the issue carry the same… weight, as it does in America?

In Japan, commenting on weight can pretty much be an ice breaker for someone you haven’t seen in a long time.

I’d really like to know if this is even an “issue” elsewhere, or if the ever dramatic portion of America’s population are just being dramatic and noisy again.

[/quote]

Spent some time in Russia and Romania a while back on business…the thing that jumped out at me almost immediately was how many attractive females there were. It took me a little longer to figure out why: I don’t recall seeing one “young” overweight woman the entire time I was there. I’m not saying they were all fitness models, just not overweight.

Spent over a year in China, and while I’m not really attracted to Chinese women (not enough hip/ass), there weren’t many overweight girls there either. I hear it’s getting worse now, but I haven’t been there in 7 years so I can’t confirm.

My conclusion was/is that there is a lot of “wasted potential” when it comes to the number of attractive women in The States. I’m sure the same could be said of the men here too.

I don’t think it’s overreacting or being dramatic when it bothers you that 1 out of 3 American adults is obese, regardless of how the rest of the world sees it.[/quote]

Slightly crossing topics here, but I remember a bunch of discussion in a thread about the 1-10 looks rating system, and how studies have been done that show the ‘average’(by the actual definition of average) person, is actually attractive(maybe not ‘beautiful’ or anything, but ya), but weight is one of the major factors in making someone lose attractiveness, so it makes total sense that foreign cultures have a larger population of attractive women(and men in the purely physical sense).

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[quote]red04 wrote:
Slightly crossing topics here, but I remember a bunch of discussion in a thread about the 1-10 looks rating system, and how studies have been done that show the ‘average’(by the actual definition of average) person, is actually attractive(maybe not ‘beautiful’ or anything, but ya), but weight is one of the major factors in making someone lose attractiveness, so it makes total sense that foreign cultures have a larger population of attractive women(and men in the purely physical sense).[/quote]

You might say that.

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Have to pipe in !
IT IS A HEALTH CARE ISSUE !!

Now most here are Way above the BMI charts that the Insurance companies use, but compare anyone on this sight with a bmi of 31 (OBESE!) to those little rollie pollie Wall Mart Waddle motherfuckers and you can begin to see the problem.

We are charged the same cost as someone who is truly Obese, when we try to get closer to the Steel Nation type of body ! How the fuck is that fair ? I do not expect to pay the same as an elite/Olympic Athlete, but come on ! Fed up with this shit !

When you start to look at Lipid levels, triglycerides, Hypertension, Congestive Heart Failure and I could go on …

You get the idea ! This shit is just NOT good to the Health and Wealth of the Nation as a whole !!

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[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Facepalm_Death wrote:

[quote]marrot wrote:
Meh.

She makes more money slingin those fatkinis than we ever could bitchin about em.

Haters mad because they can’t corner an entire niche market single handedly.[/quote]

Haters are mad because the niche market exists.

Look, I guarantee the quest to make bobs bigger has been going on for millennia. 3000 years ago some primitive witch doctor or shaman was making some potion to make his wife boobs bigger. Of course it didn’t work because science. Plastic surgery came along and that was the end of that story, but the intent has always been there, its instinct.

No one has tried to make morbid obesity sexy/acceptable until the past decade[/quote]

Yeah, no. As Varq indicates, fat has represented fertility and wealth throughout most of history. [/quote]

I don’t know what to make of this because I’m convinced I’m genetically predisposed to liking girls thinner. As a child I remember liking girls butts to look a certain way and I’m pretty sure media didn’t imprint that preference on me. I grew up watching tv in the 70s and in the 70s they didn’t even show butts on tv.

They showed so little ass on tv in the that I can even remember the first time I saw nice ass on tv. It was a movie with Pam Dauber that was about a guy and girl who got a hold of some magic watch that could stop time. Pam had a damn sexy ass and that movie might just have triggered me to hit puberty. Mork & Mindy was still running at that time and that movie renewed my interest in watching it. I gave up quickly though because they NEVER showed Pam’s ass on M&M.

The next time I saw nice ass on tv was years later when I was in High school. An episode of Matt Houston where Matt went to some cattle ranch where there were a bunch of models shooting a jeans commercial. That episode may have planted the seed in me to later go on and start the epic SAMA thread Girls in Cowboy Hats (thanks to MaximusB for making that an epic thread).

Point being, in about a 6 year period I saw nice ass on tv only twice so I doubt media influenced my taste. My taste is hard wired. Heck, did we ever actually see Daisy Duke’s ass? I think we only saw her from the front.

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Yeah, no. Sorry, rejected. Before Mork and Mindy you had as an infant (I guess?) either The Brady Bunch and Partridge Family or Goldie Hawn during the Laugh-In years. I Dream of Jeanie? Ginger and Mary Ann?

Whether or not you saw June Cleaver’s ass, the remainder of her indicated its size. I’m sure once you were interested, you could extrapolate. The same would be true of all the not-actually-seen asses.

In the industrialized world, where everyone sits around, not just the wealthy, physical health and fitness signify wealth.[/quote]

Marcia - Yes
Jeanie - Yes
Susan Day - Yes
Mary Ann & Ginger - Yes

But no, extrapolating from the front doesn’t cut it. I saw Pam from the front all the time on Mork & Mindy but it wasn’t until I saw her from behind in that movie that early puberty was triggered.

I’m not saying I couldn’t be convinced programing is a factor but I am saying I can’t be convinced genetic predisposition isn’t a factor because I strongly believe it is.

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[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

My conclusion was/is that there is a lot of “wasted potential”
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The way I like to put it is they ‘squander their beauty’. Its such a shame.

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[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

My conclusion was/is that there is a lot of “wasted potential”
[/quote]

The way I like to put it is they ‘squander their beauty’. Its such a shame.[/quote]

Their beauty isn’t so much squandered as it is devalued through hyperinflation.

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[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

My conclusion was/is that there is a lot of “wasted potential”
[/quote]

The way I like to put it is they ‘squander their beauty’. Its such a shame.[/quote]

Their beauty isn’t so much squandered as it is devalued through hyperinflation.[/quote]

Over my head V.

Please tell me you’re not saying overweight girls and girls who just plain don’t take care of themselves are not appreciated due to the unrealistic standards created by our media.

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[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

My conclusion was/is that there is a lot of “wasted potential”
[/quote]

The way I like to put it is they ‘squander their beauty’. Its such a shame.[/quote]

Their beauty isn’t so much squandered as it is devalued through hyperinflation.[/quote]

Over my head V.

Please tell me you’re not saying overweight girls and girls who just plain don’t take care of themselves are not appreciated due to the unrealistic standards created by our media. [/quote]

Okay. Anything for a friend.

I’m not saying overweight girls and girls who just plain don’t take care of themselves are not appreciated due to the unrealistic standards created by our media.

As a matter of fact, I was making a currency pun. Just as a currency can lose its value through hyperinflation, so can female beauty, which is a woman’s most valued (if not necessarily her most valuable) currency, lose its value if the woman herself becomes “hyper-inflated” with adipose tissue.

Alles Klar, Herr Kommissar?

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[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

My conclusion was/is that there is a lot of “wasted potential”
[/quote]

The way I like to put it is they ‘squander their beauty’. Its such a shame.[/quote]

Their beauty isn’t so much squandered as it is devalued through hyperinflation.[/quote]

I think you just won the thread.

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[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

My conclusion was/is that there is a lot of “wasted potential”
[/quote]

The way I like to put it is they ‘squander their beauty’. Its such a shame.[/quote]

Their beauty isn’t so much squandered as it is devalued through hyperinflation.[/quote]

I think you just won the thread.
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yep - tell him what he won, Johnny~