If a trans woman really believes that “she” is a woman, wouldn’t “she” consider it an insult to be forced to use a gender neutral bathroom.
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Solution:
Make it a criminal offense for them to use women’s bathroom or hope for the best.
Idk….Tbh the first option kinda messed up
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You know, if I was a father it’d bother me too. In fact, I’d start swinging. But yeah, the other genders should get their own bathroom
My wife and I are planning to adopt a girl + have 1 biological kid. So I’m gonna have either 1 or 2 daughters, which is why I feel strongly on this issue.
Make it a criminal offense for them to use women’s bathroom or hope for the best.
Making it mandatory for people to use the bathroom for their biological sex (or the option of a gender neutral bathroom) makes sense, but definitely won’t get passed nationally haha. That would be seen as gross anti-trans legislation and would lead to a hilarious shitshow politically.
Honestly, as someone who believes that politics is downstream of culture, I have to say that Western feminism made this such a tricky topic. I say Western because I’ve been a hardcore feminist since I was like 8 when it comes to India/the Middle East (since my parents are from India). I don’t know why, but since 2010 or so, a lot of Western feminism has led to the idea that women are as physically capable as men, which makes defending protections made for them controversial.
To defend women’s sports and women’s bathrooms/locker rooms, you have to start with why no one cares about that much about women in men’s sports and men’s bathrooms/locker rooms. Good luck with that lol. Seriously, most guys aren’t going to risk talking about innate differences in public. This really seems to be a Western thing. India is still on 2nd wave feminism (sorta), while much of the Middle East is on wave -10 
Yep, which is why this topic is such a shitshow lol. That said, the vaaaaast majority of trans people aren’t going to attack anyone’s daughter. Tbh, the real issue is cis guys using this as a loophole to get creepy.
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Well I think it’s settled, the new USPA lifting classes will be male, female, or neutered. 
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As a lover of dark humor, I love stuff like this haha. But I do stay away from dark humor on certain topics since I’ll see people post stuff like this unironically.
Internet algorithms are weird, especially on Twitter. They’ll take you from reasonable threads on why guys shouldn’t be in girls’ bathrooms, to legit anti-LGBT stuff, all the way to unironic memes promoting killing trans people. Not talking about you. I’m talking about people being serious about it.
It honeslty makes sense why a lot of trans people go crazy about “trans genocide” even though nothing close it is happening. If you’re terminally online all day, your Twitter experience will eventually end up being random anons talking about rounding up and executing trans people.
I wish I was joking. Twitter is a hellhole lol.
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Agreed. And people who know me in real life know I have an exceptionally fucked up sense of humor. Nothing is off limits. I actually get in trouble with the wife because of that. They also know my character. I’ve hired and managed trans people (still hate that term since its false). My compassion for a human being doesn’t end at my personal beliefs. My faith has always taught me to love my neighbor. We’re all flawed. But, none of that changes what is true or false and I will makes jokes about all of it. Lol
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I actually get in trouble with the wife because of that
One of the reasons I chose my wife is because she shares my fucked up humor haha.
still hate that term since its false).
I’m curious, what do you believe about transness is fake?
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I think people who claim to be trans are suffering from a mental disorder. Gender dysphoria, perhaps others. I don’t think they’re lying about their feelings (maybe some are) but it doesn’t make them correct. Just as if a person professed they were a squirrel, they may believe it, but it’s not true.
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Made me think that a clever bar might have restrooms labeled: Bulls, Cows, and Steers
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Are you trying to say that men who dress like and, possibly, even believe they are women are creepy?
It’s all good. It’s not really that important anyway.
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Am I implying that men who dress as woman or are trans are inherently creepy? Not at all.
I’m saying that the percentage of men (trans and cis) who are violent/creepy is small, but significant enough that women rightfully deserve men-free safe spaces such as bathrooms, locker rooms, etc. And I don’t say this in a bullshit “toxic masculinity” way. I say this in a way that everyone has acknowledged for thousands of years in most cultures.
Guys aren’t innately bothered and threatened when a woman enters the men’s bathroom. Most girls are innately bothered/threatened when the ooppsite happens, and for good reason. Even a 5’6" 160lbs dude is an extreme physical threat to most women. It’s crazy that saying this in a public setting is controversial nowadays.
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I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree.
Maybe. Why do you say they’re inherently creepy?
Let’s say I decide to wear a dress because I simply want to. Why is that inherently creepy? Especially since what clothes are for women depends so much on culture and time period.
I have some serious questions for you. And by serious, I mean I have no desire to insult, ridicule, or follow up your answers with some stupid zinger (I actually am not inclined to do this to anyone and I’m always surprised by people who do this so nonchalantly). I’m asking out of curiosity and because you’ve been transparent here and in the thread about boys doing girly things started by Anna.
What message do you intend to give to others by dressing like that?
What compels you to dress like that?
Considering that in the current day the presentation you give with your clothing is that of a woman, and you are a man, why do you do so?
What do the chain and BDSM-style garters suggest?
If I recall correctly in the other thread, you said dressing like a woman is fun. You appear intelligent and introspective enough to explain further; that is, you’re deep enough to possibly explain what this does for you and why you do it. Considering the current climate and as a heterosexual man who isn’t inclined to behave like a woman, I am curious as to why some do.
Of course you don’t have to answer. As I’m busy this week and running low on spare brain space I might or might no respond but will let you know when I read your possible response with the like button.
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Right. However, men who behave like women have been despised for thousand of years too. A chunk of Americans don’t want to go by concerns or feelings that existed for thousands of years.
And that leads me to this:
Though I’m not an evolutionary psychologist, my guess is that there is an innate, evolutionary basis to this that can’t be adequately explained. It is something that many men simply feel. Likely in far more uncomfortable times men acting like women diminished group trust and put men of a group at risk.
Terms like, “acting like a bitch,” “don’t be a p—,” and “man up” came from somewhere. So did discouraging men from crying “like a girl” and “tough love.”
Regardless of changing clothing norms, there has been general consensus of what is feminine versus masculine dress for time periods.
It depends upon whether or not you still pee standing up.
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