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[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Otep wrote:
countingbeans wrote:
ron-e wrote:
I try not to read much of anything that involves crossfit, but this topic pulled me in.
No i meant the part about people with no business criticizing the accomplishments of others running their mouth.
Also see beginners section for overwhelming amount of 150lbs guys dishing out advice on how to get huge…
Yeah, it’s really a shame the bigger guys spend their time in GAL.
For the record, you were not one of the people I was referring to.
I look at it like an episode of house. A couple big dudes do a rotation or two in the forum, but jesus man, 9 times out of 10 the answer is “stop thinking so much, eat better food and keep getting stronger in the big compound lifts.” I can see how reading some of those threads and pouring over each one could drive a man insane.
You sir, and a couple other guys like you, are saints though. [/quote]
Theres a reason the bigger guys all seem to give out the same very basic advice.
Its good fucking advice.
Beginners want the leg up, they want some crazy shit that no one else knows about, they want the “secret to getting big”, they want it now.
It doesn’t exist, the guys who are big now do the exact same shit as the big guys of 60 years ago and so on.
Training is always evolving, but its not like there is much you could do that is more effective at making you big and strong all over…than big compound lifts that are heavy loads and use lots of muscles.
Its just common sense.
Diet, consistency, and genetics are a big part of it.
Big guys dont do fancy shit, were big because we have been following relatively simply ideas:
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eat alot
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lift heavy things
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do 1 and 2 for years consistently
It took quite a while before I even bothered with postwork shakes. Or supplements, or pre-workout nutrition.
Youll find most of the bigger guys take the same shit, protein powder, sometimes creatine, and fishoil.
We just get tired of answering the same questions over and over, when the answer is and has always been eat, lift, repeat. You act like we dont give answers because were lazy, its because there isnt a better answer to give.
First, I don’t care what anyone pays for their gym membership. Hell, some of the franchises and health clubs aren’t that far from the crossfit price.
Next, maybe 1000ripped is a great coach and well worth his cost. I don’t know, however, I doubt most crossfit gym owners are. Judging from their pictures and numbers, I doubt the trainers near me are worth that money.
When I did pay a gym membership, I went to this gym: BrickyardGym.com is for sale | HugeDomains
The pictures don’t do it justice, but it’s an awesome place. It has all kinds of powerlifting and strongman tools and it holds a strongman competition and two powerlifting meets every year. Because of the kind of place it was, it attracted some of the best and strongest lifters in the area. So, while I got no personal training included in my membership fees, I got to train with some of Milwaukee’s smartest and strongest. And an entire year there cost less than two months at the local crossfit.
Now, I train mostly at my house and have built a decent set up in my basement and garage. I also train 2-3 times a month at a local pro strongman’s gym and all that costs me is some donated chalk and tacky.
I guess my only point is that cost does not correlate with training environment and/or results. Over the years, the cost of my choice of training facilities has gone down, but the quality of the environment has continued to go up.
But, even after saying all this, I see no problem with crossfit. I wouldn’t pay that much for it, but I’m also a cheap bastard. I still don’t even own an HDTV.
[quote]red04 wrote:
rrjc5488 wrote:
I wonder how many serious powerlifters on here would pay 100 bucks per month to lift at a serious powerlifting gym with 20 serious training partners? My guess is quite a few.
Considering that if 20 powerlifters got together and decided to lift at the same gym it instantly becomes a serious gym, and there are facilities with plenty of equipment that don’t charge 100 a month, I’d hope it’s a very low number. That’s kind of the point Lee made I think, the big serious lifters make the gym not the other way around(there are some exceptions where clearly the gym will limit your progress like a planet fitness or a place that just doesn’t have the equipment).
Saying that, if there really were no other options ya you’d probably pay 100 a month for a serious powerlifting gym… but crossfit gyms aren’t serious powerlifting gyms so =/[/quote]
Right, but YOU’RE the one looking for a certain environment. (A powerlifting environment.) The people who do crossfit are looking for whatever the fuck environment it is in there. Not everyone’s got the same goals. Shit, some people go to the gym for social reasons, a 24 hour fitness environment would best suit their goals.
It’s not just that they’re paying a lot. They’re paying for what they’re looking for.
Its funny how he mentions the “look” of crossfitters
i went to a equipment auction the other week about 10 of these guys with tight shirts and boardshirts turn up and im thinking to myself what are they gonna do there is only 5 rowers up for grabs!
Crossfit is awesome. Only for girls though because they get hot as FUCK.
More hot Crossfit womens, har har:
greyskullstore.blogspot.com/2009_04_01_archive.html
Are you guys complaining at $125 month? I have a membership to both a big gym and a CF gym in CT. Both have ups and downs. I’ve been a member of gym for 15 years and can count on one hand how many times I see people doing cleans, clean and jerks, snatches, and other oly lifts. Also when i go to my gym do deadlift, i get eyed by the staff for not touching the weight down lightly. Also, I have never seen oly bumper plates at big gymes. I’m not talking Curves type gyms. Evan Centopena (the coverboy for MD magazine and ranked bodybilder) trains at my golds gym in New Haven. Its as hardcore as you can get but you dont see oly lifts at all.
On another note, CF has jumped the shark. When I first started in was much more hard core. Now there are more women to men. Some hot, some over 40 that have probabaly tried everything.
I do see that CF is easy to hate on. Some box owner reads a Paleo book and believes thats the end all for all nutrition.
I will admit. My deadlift and squat have all gone up since CF and I am in the best shape of my life but the koolaid is starting to get to sour.
[quote]RGK1023 wrote:
Are you guys complaining at $125 month?[/quote]
Yes, I’m definitely complaining at $125 a month. To me, that’s just too much for what the local crossfit was offering, especially compared to the alternatives in my area.
Maybe your local crossfit offers more and there are no viable alternatives. In that case, the $125 might be a good deal. But for me, I wouldn’t even pay half that.
[quote]Westclock wrote:
Crossfit was a fad, and its dying…big deal…it was stupid from the beginning, its even worse now.
Some douchbaggery will rise up to replace it, and we will have something new to hate.
Nothing unifies powerlifters and bodybuilders like something we can both hate and call faggotry.[/quote]
i for one will always hate knitting forums
[quote]1000rippedbuff wrote:
Yeah, but at a normal gym you don’t get any coaching at all. Or the type of equipment we have with the liberty to actually train hard. The membership fee is all you’ll ever pay me. Most people think its pretty cheap for what you get. I’ve never had a single complaint. We aren’t bringing people in and turning them loose on a sea of equipment.
I build programs and teach lifts and gymnastics movements and help with diet. My people will never be able to go to a regular gym because people don’t train seriously there.[/quote]
What if I don’t want your coaching? I went to a Crossfit gym a few years ago, just to see what it was like. I would have paid $50/month to use the equipment and train around other serious trainers, but there was no option to skip the mandatory coaching. I don’t need somebody to write a program for me or yell encouragement in my face. I’m smart enough to educate myself and there is a huge amount of material on the internet for me to learn how to train myself. I have my own training parters for motivation.
I now lift at a serious hardcore gym. Everybody who trains there is serious and motivated. If I need form critique or ideas for a program, there are at least 2 or 3 other people there at any time who can give me trustworthy advice in between sets, and are happy to do so free of charge. And I’m happy to lend whatever help I can when I’m asked.
[quote]malonetd wrote:
RGK1023 wrote:
Are you guys complaining at $125 month?
Yes, I’m definitely complaining at $125 a month. To me, that’s just too much for what the local crossfit was offering, especially compared to the alternatives in my area.
Maybe your local crossfit offers more and there are no viable alternatives. In that case, the $125 might be a good deal. But for me, I wouldn’t even pay half that.[/quote]
I hear you MAL. I the guy that runs in is pretty solid. I do believe in a lot of stuff people are writing here.
[quote]skizac wrote:
1000rippedbuff wrote:
Yeah, but at a normal gym you don’t get any coaching at all. Or the type of equipment we have with the liberty to actually train hard. The membership fee is all you’ll ever pay me. Most people think its pretty cheap for what you get. I’ve never had a single complaint. We aren’t bringing people in and turning them loose on a sea of equipment.
I build programs and teach lifts and gymnastics movements and help with diet. My people will never be able to go to a regular gym because people don’t train seriously there.
What if I don’t want your coaching? I went to a Crossfit gym a few years ago, just to see what it was like. I would have paid $50/month to use the equipment and train around other serious trainers, but there was no option to skip the mandatory coaching. I don’t need somebody to write a program for me or yell encouragement in my face. I’m smart enough to educate myself and there is a huge amount of material on the internet for me to learn how to train myself. I have my own training parters for motivation.
I now lift at a serious hardcore gym. Everybody who trains there is serious and motivated. If I need form critique or ideas for a program, there are at least 2 or 3 other people there at any time who can give me trustworthy advice in between sets, and are happy to do so free of charge. And I’m happy to lend whatever help I can when I’m asked.[/quote]
I would have no problem with someone coming in who knew what they were doing and doing other things use my equipment. The slippery slope I have run into before is ending up with people who think they know what they are doing and really don’t. I haven’t had a single person come in, including guys who are trainers from other gyms, and do a correct back squat or dead lift, and I don’t mean that there form is a little off, I mean doing things plain wrong and dangerously-rounded backs, knees caving in, and every single time, doing partial squats. The problem is,it is my gym, and if a guy comes in I have no idea if he has any idea what he is doing and 99% of people don’t, including those who work out.
The other problem that can happen in the above situation, you get the people who will end up doing curls in the squat rack and other nonsense.
The thing is, someone who is serious doesn’t mind paying fees. I had a competitive Olympic lifter come in for a few months while he was in town. He didn’t care about the fees at all. He was just glad that there was a place he could train properly at. And, as I find more and more. The people who are good at things like olympic lifting, gymnastics, or other sports like the crossfit concept and the gyms. It’s the net nerds who have the biggest problems with it. The guys who probably don’t even work out much. I had one guy who stopped through my gym who is on a lot of these forums and collects all kinds of training stuff is constantly looking at new things and voicing every kind of opinion on the internet… he was always anti-crossfit, even when he was here, overall an ok guy. But still, he’s one of these guys who talks training all the time but he can’t do anything performance wise, can’t lift, just loves to talk shop on the internet all the time. I guess he likes the idea of fitness but is never really into actually doing it… which is my experience with most of the internet people I’ve run across.
i want to bang a girl that does crossfit regularly
[quote]tjr-dk wrote:
More hot Crossfit womens, har har:
greyskullstore.blogspot.com/2009_04_01_archive.html[/quote]
You bastard.
[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:
i want to bang a girl that does crossfit regularly[/quote]
I’ll be awaiting the new thread detailing your new escapades.