The Effect of Your Physique on Others

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]ladieslove wrote:
I think some other ladies see me as competition sometimes … I’m not competitive and don’t care … I obviously don’t make female friends very easily [/quote]

None of you make female friends easily, mostly because you all recognize that you’re all insane but never admit it out loud.[/quote]

girls scare me cuz you never know what they’re gunna do

[quote]ladieslove wrote:

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]ladieslove wrote:
I think some other ladies see me as competition sometimes … I’m not competitive and don’t care … I obviously don’t make female friends very easily [/quote]

None of you make female friends easily, mostly because you all recognize that you’re all insane but never admit it out loud.[/quote]

girls scare me cuz you never know what they’re gunna do[/quote]

That’s the same reason that I’ll never vote for a woman for president.

Thanks for making my case.

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]ladieslove wrote:

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]ladieslove wrote:
I think some other ladies see me as competition sometimes … I’m not competitive and don’t care … I obviously don’t make female friends very easily [/quote]

None of you make female friends easily, mostly because you all recognize that you’re all insane but never admit it out loud.[/quote]

girls scare me cuz you never know what they’re gunna do[/quote]

That’s the same reason that I’ll never vote for a woman for president.

Thanks for making my case.[/quote]

Ladieslove is a Canadian, she can’t be president.

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]dianab wrote:
I like it when a roomful of guys talk about what women like.
In reality, we all like different attributes in men, because, we are ALL DIFFERENT.
But carry on, it’s always amusing.[/quote]

Wamt to hear something really funny? I think most women base what they like in men on certain attributes present in their fathers.

You may be laughing, but we wouldn’t be seeing the same actions so much if there wasn’t something ton it.

Most women today give a very generric programmed response to big muscles…that they don’t seem to have when it is one on one.

I find it funny too…[/quote]

I think you’ll find a lot of women will cater their response to their audience… Like men do…
[/quote]

Quit being so s-m-r-t, deb :wink:

Water seeks its own level.

If you are in the minority with respect to the pursuit of your goals (e.g. getting huge, even just “lifting”) then, GENERALLY SPEAKING, you will be in the minority of people who can appreciate that pursuit.

How many people are trying to get huge or even lift religiously? A minority of the population, right? Guess what, that means very few people outside of that demographic will understand and thus look favorably upon what you’re doing. Yes, this means that, unless you’re constantly surrounded by the like-minded, your chances of people respecting what you do is SLIM.

If you are busting your ass in school and surrounded by people who are lazy as fuck, will they appreciate you sacrificing your weekends to study extra hard for a class that’s giving you trouble? NO. You won’t get that respect. And fake respect without a base of understanding to me is worthless, it’s insulting.

The many women who don’t like big guys…well, that tends to be a reflection of their own attitude toward working out; they likely don’t lift with the same discipline. Look at the women on this site who DO lift, they mostly appreciate guys who lift as well, including guys who are huge and strong. If a chick is just appalled at your big muscles or just thinks you’re a “meathead,” what she’s really saying is that she doesn’t lift and hence doesn’t understand your passion. This is the same for everything: if he/she can’t appreciate you busting your ass in school, it’s because he/she never did that or hasn’t shown that kind of hustle in a long time.

We appreciate best/most what we understand, and we understand best what we know passionately. Water seeks its own level. This is nothing new.

And I forgot to add:

I’m likely one of the smallest guys on here, but I’ve been told numerous times that I’m “intense” or “intimidating” based on how I speak and my body language. I’m not aggressive, but I guess I put people on the spot when I want an answer. That’s just how I am, I don’t like people who drag me around.

I did this with a client a few years ago. I was leasing apartments and she was a Section 8 person. She fell off the earth for like 2 weeks and I had just about forfeit her place. She showed up in my office as if NOTHING ever happened, and it pissed me off. I told her to look me in the eye and tell me exactly where she’d been the past few weeks and why she never picked up her phone. I told her that I had no sympathy for her if she found herself on the street the next day because I was willing to give her place to someone else who was more responsive.

She literally couldn’t look me in the eye. She kept talking as if my questions were rhetorical, as if she wasn’t taking me seriously. I got up and told her to come back when I called her (I was in the middle of something else).

She told my manager how I talked to her–manager sided with me, though–and my manager pulled me aside and said, “Look, you just talk with your hands and you’re very direct and look people in the eye…and with your DARK FEATURES, that intimidates people.” Yes, I was seriously told that.

I just don’t like people who pussy foot around. Answer the fucking question. Say, “I did fuck up. This is how I promise not to do it again. This iswhat you can hold me to.”

I don’t see how that makes me intimidating. I don’t like people to get away with shit; I don’t expect to get away with shit at work or school or ina relationship. You should be able to answer for every thing you do and say. Right?

I’m dealing with my sister right now who refuses to look for work, even though I helped her with everything: resume, cover, letter, where to look. I told her that’s it, I’m not helping her with anything else in life. Yes, she first asked me for all this help and acted like she was ready to hit the ground running. She cried wolf.

I fucking hate people who don’t appreciate what a consequence is: non-negotiable (generally). Do X, get Y in return. Don’t want Y? Dont’ do X. Simple. From now on, I think I will wait to see someone in severe pain before I offer any help. I need to know they have the memory of pain and suffering to keep them in check.

Sorry, tangent. Really pissed off.

How funny that I just put that up about my sister. An old acquaintance of mine just emailed me asking if I could hook him up with a job as art director at my company (a very large company). I probably could and he’s talented enough to get noticed, but here’s the thing.

This guy promised me a logo and some graphics for the startup my friends and I had last year. HE promised it, I told him we’d pay him, yet he insisted on doing it for free. He said to call him to schedule a consult and discuss what we wanted. I said sure.

Of course, he disappears for about a year (May 2010 until now) and the few times i left him a message or emailed him, he’d swear he’d get “right back” to me. Never did. And now, he’s asking for a favor.

Come on, dude. Seriously?

He’s in his mid 30s, by the way, married with two kids. Not some teenager.

I just don’t get people like this. Do you fucking have Alzheimer’s ? Did you forget the last impression you left?

[quote]dianab wrote:
I like it when a roomful of guys talk about what women like.
In reality, we all like different attributes in men, because, we are ALL DIFFERENT.
But carry on, it’s always amusing.[/quote]

It’s a lot of wishful thinking. I was thinking the same thing but it was a woman’s place to say it :slight_smile:

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
The sooner you stop worrying about what some broad wants or likes, the more of them you’ll get. Muscles or not.[/quote]

QFT

[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
How funny that I just put that up about my sister. An old acquaintance of mine just emailed me asking if I could hook him up with a job as art director at my company (a very large company). I probably could and he’s talented enough to get noticed, but here’s the thing.

This guy promised me a logo and some graphics for the startup my friends and I had last year. HE promised it, I told him we’d pay him, yet he insisted on doing it for free. He said to call him to schedule a consult and discuss what we wanted. I said sure.

Of course, he disappears for about a year (May 2010 until now) and the few times i left him a message or emailed him, he’d swear he’d get “right back” to me. Never did. And now, he’s asking for a favor.

Come on, dude. Seriously?

He’s in his mid 30s, by the way, married with two kids. Not some teenager.

I just don’t get people like this. Do you fucking have Alzheimer’s ? Did you forget the last impression you left?[/quote]

Do this and then sometime in the future, it might not come, you’ll offer him an offer he can’t refuse.

well, i am 6’2’', 205 pounds at a single digit BF, biggest in my school and yes, 80% of girls and 60% of guys are afraid of me at first, but when they get to know me, damn im funny :stuck_out_tongue:

[quote]niksamaras wrote:
well, i am 6’2’', 205 pounds at a single digit BF, biggest in my school and yes, 80% of girls and 60% of guys are afraid of me at first, but when they get to know me, damn im funny :P[/quote]

My dick is 6’2" @ 205.

Women love me, men admire me, and animals want to learn to talk so they can be my friend.

Dogs dig me big time.

The funniest thing is peoples perception of fat vs. skinny. I’m 6 ft. 250 at around 12%. But people percieve me to be fat because I am not a little bitch and I’m not “shredded.”

Most peoples first response to someone being larger than them is “do you take steroids?”

My training partner is 6’2 and 375lb and people just find him intimidating, but that maybe the beard. He doesn’t have what you would call an Athletic body on any count tho being a competative strongman. But on my side of things I have moved from being a 6’0 150lb guy to being a 6’0 200lb guy and I have noticed a huge difference compared to before, mainly from women.

I dont think I am big enough for guys to think I am anything special, except in the gym where mainly due to powerlifting I am considered a freak (512 squat, 309 Bench, 562 Deadlift). I have also become a stripper which has helped me through my study. :stuck_out_tongue:

[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
I just don’t get people like this. Do you fucking have Alzheimer’s ? Did you forget the last impression you left?[/quote]

Man i’m with you on this. There is a consequence to everything we do, I haven’t figured out if people don’t realize that or simply don’t care and don’t plan on accepting the consequences.

I agree with Deb though, people tend to give respect towards those with similar paths. When you understand the time and effort that goes into something it’s alot easier to show appreciation and respect for it.

[quote]Nards wrote:
Dogs dig me big time.[/quote]

Thats because you smell like sausage and beer. :slight_smile:

[quote]calebsmitty wrote:
The funniest thing is peoples perception of fat vs. skinny. I’m 6 ft. 250 at around 12%. But people percieve me to be fat because I am not a little bitch and I’m not “shredded.”

Most peoples first response to someone being larger than them is “do you take steroids?” [/quote]

Just looked at the progress picture you posted a few months back.

Sorry, bro, but while your progress has been quite good so far, you are not ‘around’ 12%, but well above it.

[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
And I forgot to add:

I’m likely one of the smallest guys on here, but I’ve been told numerous times that I’m “intense” or “intimidating” based on how I speak and my body language. I’m not aggressive, but I guess I put people on the spot when I want an answer. That’s just how I am, I don’t like people who drag me around.

I did this with a client a few years ago. I was leasing apartments and she was a Section 8 person. She fell off the earth for like 2 weeks and I had just about forfeit her place. She showed up in my office as if NOTHING ever happened, and it pissed me off. I told her to look me in the eye and tell me exactly where she’d been the past few weeks and why she never picked up her phone. I told her that I had no sympathy for her if she found herself on the street the next day because I was willing to give her place to someone else who was more responsive.

She literally couldn’t look me in the eye. She kept talking as if my questions were rhetorical, as if she wasn’t taking me seriously. I got up and told her to come back when I called her (I was in the middle of something else).

She told my manager how I talked to her–manager sided with me, though–and my manager pulled me aside and said, “Look, you just talk with your hands and you’re very direct and look people in the eye…and with your DARK FEATURES, that intimidates people.” Yes, I was seriously told that.

I just don’t like people who pussy foot around. Answer the fucking question. Say, “I did fuck up. This is how I promise not to do it again. This iswhat you can hold me to.”

I don’t see how that makes me intimidating. I don’t like people to get away with shit; I don’t expect to get away with shit at work or school or ina relationship. You should be able to answer for every thing you do and say. Right?

I’m dealing with my sister right now who refuses to look for work, even though I helped her with everything: resume, cover, letter, where to look. I told her that’s it, I’m not helping her with anything else in life. Yes, she first asked me for all this help and acted like she was ready to hit the ground running. She cried wolf.

I fucking hate people who don’t appreciate what a consequence is: non-negotiable (generally). Do X, get Y in return. Don’t want Y? Dont’ do X. Simple. From now on, I think I will wait to see someone in severe pain before I offer any help. I need to know they have the memory of pain and suffering to keep them in check.

Sorry, tangent. Really pissed off.[/quote]

Most people feel the same way about indirect people that bullshit you and think they can get away with whatever the fuck they want, most just don’t DO ANYTHING about it, because these days, that’s generally frowned upon imho.

neelydan’s always had haaaaawt girls. if it were based on physique alone, there’d be no hope. if it were based on dashing good looks, ol’ buddy hackett here would again be without hope. but nail the subtle confident personality, and you’d be amazed at what is accomplished.

thing is, in 3 years, neelydan’s seen maybe 10 posters in this environment who qualify - the rest are desperate, creepy fucks who are gonna spend their life alone for the majority