[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
Who should be able to call themselves Dr.?
My take:
If you didn’t graduate from medical school and pass all of your board exams, stop using Dr. before your name in anything other than a professional setting. People guilty of this: chiropractors, PhDs, dentists, podiatrists, Dr. Phil (PhD), Dr. Ruth (PhD), etc. [/quote]
Wrong, you are mistaking one type of doctor for other. They all have doctorates.
[quote]SWR wrote:
PimpBot5000 wrote:
Does anyone think that some of these threads are created just to indirectly antagonize Professor X? There’s been more than a few anti-dentist ones, along with a couple “a dentist is not a doctor” ones as well.
Sounds like it. I don’t see how someone could really be that concerned about people calling themselves Dr. when they have a doctorate. I thought it was pretty common to call other Doctors Dr., even though they might not be medical doctors.[/quote]
Not really common. I’ve worked at three companies and it’s just first name basis. Of course the US is pretty informal. Occasionally people use the title lightly, one of my former bosses used to call me “Dr. D” because he thought he made it sound cool (it actually did with his accent). Mainly we just call each other by our first names. Others who don’t have Ph.D.s, like technicians or BS/MS engineers, also call us by our first names. The workplace is pretty informal these days.
One thing you should know if you have a Ph.D. is that you can’t be an expert at everything. There are plenty of people who are “experts” in various things and you can learn from them, even if they don’t have letters after their names.
I worked in the Children’s Hospital physical therapy outpatient center this summer, and I called everyone by their first name. They all had DPT behind their name. It’s really not that big of a deal to anyone at all. I think people respect each other’s level of education regardless of what name they are calling them. I think it’s pretty apparent that anyone in the medical field has a doctorate of some sort.
I used to work for a woman in Political Science who had a Ph.D. who gave me an earful, and a history lesson (none of the specifics of which I recall) wherein she explained that the term “doctor” was applied to people who’d earned a Ph.D. long before medical doctors commonly adopted the title Dr.
Thus, Ph.Ders had first dibs on the title “Dr.” and medical doctors are squatters.
[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
If they have DNP’s in Germany and one of them is a professor and also holds a PhD, would she – forgive me – be addressed as Frau Doktor Doktor Krankenschwester Professor So-und-So?
[quote]Davinci.v2 wrote:
X, I’m curious about two things. First, when initially meeting your patients, has anyone ever shit their pants and been like, “wtf?”. Second, has a hard training session ever had any kind of impact on your ability to perform a surgery i.e. hands slightly shakey or something similar? I’ve often wondered about this.[/quote]
I’ve wondered this as well. Also since you eat a lot and drink lots of protein shakes all the time do you ever fart or have to go to the bathroom so much it interferes with you work day?
[quote]rholdnr wrote:
Bill Roberts wrote:
If they have DNP’s in Germany and one of them is a professor and also holds a PhD, would she – forgive me – be addressed as Frau Doktor Doktor Krankenschwester Professor So-und-So?
Where do you come up with these ideas?[/quote]
It is simply an expansion on what is actually the case, and it is a reasonable question as to whether the general principle actually does carry this far. Though I think I should have written it as Frau Professor Doktor Doktor Krankenschwester. The above was influenced by a previous poster sticking the Professor at the end, which on further thought I don’t think is the usual.
Or are you doubting that they ever really say or write Frau Professor Doktor Doktor?
As to where I came up with it, besides it being true: I was forced to learn to read German at a level sufficient to (then, not now) mostly understand chemistry journals written in that language. Unfortunately the knowledge did not stick, but I did remember that.
[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
Who should be able to call themselves Dr.?
My take:
If you didn’t graduate from medical school and pass all of your board exams, stop using Dr. before your name in anything other than a professional setting. People guilty of this: chiropractors, PhDs, dentists, podiatrists, Dr. Phil (PhD), Dr. Ruth (PhD), etc. [/quote]
Chiropractors go to medical school and have to pass nationally accredited boards… maybe you should do some reading before you open your mouth.
Just because I don’t know all the cellular and metabolic side-effects of chemotherapy doesn’t mean I am not going to be a “Dr”. But I do know about the wind-up effect of substance P and how the activation of mechanoreceptors blocks the afferent nociceptors thereby reducing inflammation and restoring the body’s natural healing process. If I order diagnostic imaging and see cancer or an abdominal aortic aneurysm I will send them to the specialist they need to see. But if I see an orthopedic injury that can be conservatively managed without drugging some kid or cutting them open and the parents agree with my initial treatment plan… I’m pretty sure they will call me Dr.
In the UK, surgeons and specialsts in hospitals are referred to as Mr instead of Doctor. Having Mr on your card instead of Dr in a hospital is actually a status symbol.
This is because historically Surgeons didn’t take a doctorate, they were apprenticed and recieved a diploma.
Do you think Obama’s healthcare reform will really cause a doctor shortage? Isn’t that messed up? We only have a certain amount of doctors to go around so please stay home and die.