[quote]utHAUS wrote:
I’ll be getting a DPT (Doctor of Physical Therapy) here in a couple years, and while I’m not going to get butthurt if/when someone calls me ‘Mr.’, I’ll be damned if someone tells me I can’t go by ‘Dr.’
In a professional setting, anyway.[/quote]
I’ll be studying for the DPT degree as well in a few years and I agree 100%.
Edit: Although it is true that the degree isn’t a PhD. But, nearly 3 years of biomechanics and physiology make me feel like I’ll know as much as people who are called “Dr.”
[quote]Mad_Duck wrote:
Bill Roberts wrote:
I suspect the OP would not like life in Germany, where if a man has two doctorates, you address him as Herr Doktor Doktor.
(Seriously.)
I Swear, the day I get my second doctorate, (in Germany,) I’m changing my last name to “Gimmiedanewsigotabadcaseoflovinyou”[/quote]
[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
Who should be able to call themselves Dr.?
My take:
If you didn’t graduate from medical school and pass all of your board exams, stop using Dr. before your name in anything other than a professional setting. People guilty of this: chiropractors, PhDs, dentists, podiatrists, Dr. Phil (PhD), Dr. Ruth (PhD), etc. [/quote]
[quote]riverhawk23 wrote:
OP is definately an anti-dentite.[/quote]
HA!!
But seriously, Dr. this Dr. that, it’s been my experience those with hangups over titular references (i.e. Dr, PhD, MSc) probably graduated near the bottom of the class!
If all goes well I should have my PhD in Neuromechanics in a few years (I am in absolutely NO rush as I don’t feel it’s going to have a profound impact on my earning potential) and I frankly don’t intend to list it on my business card. As it stands now, I list not a one of my current accreditation’s or certifications as I feel it’s unnecessary, just my name and job titile. If after conversing with me for a few minutes about your issue, you feel I can’t help you then no amount of initializations after my name will help!
That said, my main thrust for getting the Doctorate is to bully and impress the myopic and narrow minded physicians whom I am forced to deal with regularly, who in turn are quick to dismiss me as “Just another personal trainer”(at least initially) Plus, it looks good when signing off on insurance claims!
I consider it thusly, I’ve gone all my life without the title, why start now?
[quote]VikingsAD28 wrote:
I am currently attending a university and I would never dare disrespect one of my professors by calling them Mr or Mrs. I have endless respect for people with that level of education and I think they deserve recognition for their hard work.[/quote]
Level of education? Do all your teachers have a level as high as a Doctorate? I know mine don’t, so all except one is Mr or Miss. It’s also ridiculous to call someone that does not have a doctorate, a doctor. It’s like calling a priest, a Bishop. But then again, a Bishop is a priest so if you’re a doctor get off your high horse, you’re still a Mr or Miss.
It’s apparent that some don’t understand what “Dr.” indicates and I suspect this is because some believe that “Dr.” is synonymous with a medical doctor. Who deserves to use the “Dr.” title? Anyone that has earned a doctorate IS a doctor; it has nothing to do with deserving something or not or fulfilling certain criteria. The word “doctor” is telling you that they have earned the highest degree possible in that field or profession and that’s about it.
A simple way to solve this is to properly refer to doctors of medicine and doctors of osteopathy as medical physicians and in addition, refer to all professionals not as “doctors” but by their profession (see asterisks below) Sometimes, even these professional titles aren’t always the most fitting (e.g., a non-practicing MD that works in research or a non-practicing DDS that works in pharmaceutical sales) but they are far better than the incorrectly used alternative of “doctor”.
The following people are examples of “doctors”:
Doctor of Medicine (MD) (* referred to as a medical physician or allopathic physician)
Doctor of Osteopathy (DO) (* referred to as medical physician or osteopathic physician)
Doctor of Philosophy (PhD) (* referred to as their field of study…i.e., chemist, biologist, etc.)
Doctor of Nursing Practice (DNP) (* referred to as a nurse practicioner)
Doctor of Physical Therapy (DPT) (* referred to as a physical therapist)
Doctor of Pharmacy (PharmD) (* referred to as a pharmacist)
Doctor of Dental Surgery (DDS) and Doctor of Dental Medicine (DDM) (* referred to as dentist)
Doctor of Chiropractic (DC) (* referred to as chiropractor or chiropractic physician)
Doctor of Jurisprudence (JD) (* lawyer)
Doctor of Podiatric Medicine (DPM) (* podiatrist)
Doctor of Optometry (OD) (* optometrist)
Doctor of Occupational Therapy (OTD) (* occupational therapist)
If they have DNP’s in Germany and one of them is a professor and also holds a PhD, would she – forgive me – be addressed as Frau Doktor Doktor Krankenschwester Professor So-und-So?
Using Doctor or Attorney in a professional situation is fine. But I worked in a law firm where the lawyers would introduce themselves in restaurants or the coffee shop as ‘attorney so-and-so’ and had their credit cards read Esquire after their names.
They would actually correct anyone that didn’t address them as ‘Attorney blank’. Complete douches that treated everyone like absolute shit, even clients. It’s insecure people like these that give the other, normal professionals, a bad name.
The doctor that performed my surgery refused to be called anything but his first name.
[quote]dreads989 wrote:
I’m also getting a DPT in Physical Therapy, but sadly enough, this is not a Doctorate. It’s a Doctor of Physical Therapy. Technically, we can’t really be called Doctors unless we practice for several years and return to school to get our PhD.[/quote]
That must be specific to your state because you can use the Doctor title in CA.
[quote]IamMarqaos wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Bill Roberts wrote:
Your view is quite ignorant. You should study the etymology of the word and historical usage before announcing how words “should” be used.
Perhaps the problem is that in your mind the word is synonymous with “physician.” It is not.
You would be surprised by how many people like that are on this forum.
I doubt anyone with that mentality has ever actually come close to receiving a degree that would grant them that title.
Prof X, completely unrelated but how/why did you end up in Dentistry?
Just curiosity on my end. Can’t remember ever reading one of your posts addressing this (apologies if this is something you have addressed ad-neaseum).
Got to be something else to have your teeth pulled by a 300lb guy. My kids would love that!
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Tim asked me the same thing. Like I told him, a girl I used to know applied so I did too. That was the extent of it. I got in and since I didn’t have any other pressing matters, I went. I did not grow up wanting to be one and didn’t even know I was good at it or that I would like it until…maybe the second week I was on the job in the military.
I tend to work hard but also go in whatever way the wind is blowing. It has worked ok so far.
[quote]Davinci.v2 wrote:
X, I’m curious about two things. First, when initially meeting your patients, has anyone ever shit their pants and been like, “wtf?”. Second, has a hard training session ever had any kind of impact on your ability to perform a surgery i.e. hands slightly shakey or something similar? I’ve often wondered about this.[/quote]
I had one guy in the military who weighed about 275lbs solid at about 6’2" or taller who acted like that. Honestly, I haven’t had much of a problem since. I think my voice is what puts people at ease. As far as your last question, I have not had a problem but I also seriously doubt you will ever find a doctor who does surgery of any sort who would claim his hands shake. I can’t imagine that working out well for him.
Lately, I wear a tie at work so while they can tell I’m big, I doubt most know how much of it is muscle.
[quote]enchilnada wrote:
It’s apparent that some don’t understand what “Dr.” indicates and I suspect this is because some believe that “Dr.” is synonymous with a medical doctor. Who deserves to use the “Dr.” title? Anyone that has earned a doctorate IS a doctor; it has nothing to do with deserving something or not or fulfilling certain criteria. The word “doctor” is telling you that they have earned the highest degree possible in that field or profession and that’s about it.
A simple way to solve this is to properly refer to doctors of medicine and doctors of osteopathy as medical physicians and in addition, refer to all professionals not as “doctors” but by their profession (see asterisks below) Sometimes, even these professional titles aren’t always the most fitting (e.g., a non-practicing MD that works in research or a non-practicing DDS that works in pharmaceutical sales) but they are far better than the incorrectly used alternative of “doctor”.
The following people are examples of “doctors”:
Doctor of Medicine (MD) (* referred to as a medical physician or allopathic physician)
Doctor of Osteopathy (DO) (* referred to as medical physician or osteopathic physician)
Doctor of Philosophy (PhD) (* referred to as their field of study…i.e., chemist, biologist, etc.)
Doctor of Nursing Practice (DNP) (* referred to as a nurse practicioner)
Doctor of Physical Therapy (DPT) (* referred to as a physical therapist)
Doctor of Pharmacy (PharmD) (* referred to as a pharmacist)
Doctor of Dental Surgery (DDS) and Doctor of Dental Medicine (DDM) (* referred to as dentist)
Doctor of Chiropractic (DC) (* referred to as chiropractor or chiropractic physician)
Doctor of Jurisprudence (JD) (* lawyer)
Doctor of Podiatric Medicine (DPM) (* podiatrist)
Doctor of Optometry (OD) (* optometrist)
Doctor of Occupational Therapy (OTD) (* occupational therapist)[/quote]
[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
If they have DNP’s in Germany and one of them is a professor and also holds a PhD, would she – forgive me – be addressed as Frau Doktor Doktor Krankenschwester Professor So-und-So?
Does anyone think that some of these threads are created just to indirectly antagonize Professor X? There’s been more than a few anti-dentist ones, along with a couple “a dentist is not a doctor” ones as well.
[quote]PimpBot5000 wrote:
Does anyone think that some of these threads are created just to indirectly antagonize Professor X? There’s been more than a few anti-dentist ones, along with a couple “a dentist is not a doctor” ones as well.
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Sounds like it. I don’t see how someone could really be that concerned about people calling themselves Dr. when they have a doctorate. I thought it was pretty common to call other Doctors Dr., even though they might not be medical doctors.
