The 'Dr' Title & Who Uses It

[quote]RSGZ wrote:
Oh FFS, here we go again with “dentists aren’t doctors”.

When I fill out online forms, I use “Sir” as my title - because I’m that cool.

It’s the internet and no one can stop me anyway.[/quote]

I’m 4 years from earning my MD and I would never dream of asking people outside of work to refer to me as Dr. blahblahblah. In fact I think I’ll have a hard enough time asking that of patients at work. I think I’ll emulate a doctor I used to work with who, when introducing himself to patients would say “Hi, I’m Dr. blah, but feel free to call me Jeff.”

Oh and RSGZ I love filling out online forms, whenever I am given the option I make them call me Cardinal or Archbishop cuz that sounds bad ass.

X, I’m curious about two things. First, when initially meeting your patients, has anyone ever shit their pants and been like, “wtf?”. Second, has a hard training session ever had any kind of impact on your ability to perform a surgery i.e. hands slightly shakey or something similar? I’ve often wondered about this.

i think if someone would like to be referred to as Dr. then so be it but most people dont expect it. I remember one time in grade school i called my friends dad mr. so and so as opposed to dr and alter apologized bc at the time i thought it was a huge deal. he just laughed and said call me whatever you want. so most people dont let it get to their heads but when they do i think its bad news bears.

So. In order to get a PhD…

4 years to get a diploma in industrial electronics,

another 2 years to get my HND in electrical & electronics engineering (currently in 2nd year)

another year top up degree to get my Bsc. in Automation and Control

another year or two for a masters degree

and 4 years full time (or 6 years part time) to get a PhD

minimum of 12 years study after getting my O’levels…

…well…If I ever get a PhD I would sure as hell deserve to be called a ‘Dr.’ But who cares if people addressed me as Mr. xxx ??? Not me that’s for sure. It’s only a title that shows you have a certain level of higher education. By getting a PhD and referring to the person as Sir or Mr is not showing disrespect.

See?

It’s like reaching Super Sayan level 4 or whatever-the-fuck. People addressed Goku as, Goku still. They didn’t refer to him as Super Sayan level 4 Goku…

[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
I suspect the OP would not like life in Germany, where if a man has two doctorates, you address him as Herr Doktor Doktor.

(Seriously.)[/quote]

Lol! Ja! And if they also happen to teach at an universitat, you would refer to them as “doktor doktor professor”.

[quote]mog16 wrote:
Oh and RSGZ I love filling out online forms, whenever I am given the option I make them call me Cardinal or Archbishop cuz that sounds bad ass.
[/quote]

Haha!

Different forms, different occasions.

I remember when I was knighted by the queen…it was a proud day.

[quote]rholdnr wrote:
Bill Roberts wrote:
I suspect the OP would not like life in Germany, where if a man has two doctorates, you address him as Herr Doktor Doktor.

(Seriously.)

Lol! Ja! And if they also happen to teach at an universitat, you would refer to them as “doktor doktor professor”.[/quote]

Those crazy Germans!

You think that people with PhDs shouldn’t be called doctor, even in academic settings? Huh? That makes no sense. Do you think someone who has an MD but only does research and doesn’t actively practice medicine has the right to be called doctor? I won’t even get into the allopathic vs osteopathic medicine debate. All physicians are doctors, but not all doctors are physicians.

I also don’t get the big deal about calling a dentist a doctor. In a lot of countries a dentist is basically an oral physician. For some reason here at home we don’t think very highly of dentists unless they’re oral and maxillofacial surgeons, then suddenly they’re worthy of the doctor title. Maybe it’s because people don’t realize the level of education and training required for dentistry.

The only real controversy over the use of the word doctor is when physician assistants, nurse practitioners, and other health care workers with advanced degrees are called doctors in the clinic. This is confusing to most people since they equate “doctor” with “physician”, and in a health care setting this could arguably lead to significant misunderstandings. But that’s a whole other can of worms.

[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
I suspect the OP would not like life in Germany, where if a man has two doctorates, you address him as Herr Doktor Doktor.

(Seriously.)[/quote]

Where’d you hear that one?

I’m also getting a DPT in Physical Therapy, but sadly enough, this is not a Doctorate. It’s a Doctor of Physical Therapy. Technically, we can’t really be called Doctors unless we practice for several years and return to school to get our PhD.

" Paging doctor douche bag!"

anyone with a doctorate? I had a substitute teacher in 11th grade that got rly pissed about a calender that said "martin luther king jr’s birthday… not Dr " "

So, by your logic, a doctor of Osteopathy (DO) who does everything virtually the same as an MD and has an almost identical education, and who can write prescriptions…isn’t a doctor.

…right.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
adamhum wrote:
I think you should be called Master if you have a Master’s degree!

It does seem retarded outside of a professional setting, but the person did earn it. I think if you do call yourself doctor and expect others too, you’re kind of a douche. It’s best you hang around other douche’s…

:slight_smile:

I apologize for missing the part about being in a professional setting and not one doctor I know introduces themselves in public as “doctor”. It usually quickly comes up in conversation, but unless I am speaking to someone related to my field or talking about a related subject, few people even hear what I do for a living outside of work.

Edit: Lately, most people who know me do call me “doc” outside of work.[/quote]

Wait, why not “prof?”

Doctor of medicine… hardly rocket science

Wtf lol ???

Clearly the original poster won’t have to worry about it anytime soon.

Anyone who studied like crazy to get to that level deserves recognition in the professional setting.

End of.

[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
I suspect the OP would not like life in Germany, where if a man has two doctorates, you address him as Herr Doktor Doktor.

(Seriously.)[/quote]

I Swear, the day I get my second doctorate, (in Germany,) I’m changing my last name to “Gimmiedanewsigotabadcaseoflovinyou”

I like the idea of being a doctor in a few years, but i would never use it verbally.
On paper, sure, but i would feel like a douche if i introduced myself as Dr.

And i don’t call any of the professors at my school doctor. I don’t even call my MD doctor. I always use their first name. anything else would just be strange.

I’m glad to hear that most doctors don’t introduce themselves as such outside a professional setting. I’ll be able to call myself a doctor in a little over a year but don’t want to be pretentious about it.

I’m in chiropractic school and always tell people I’m training to be a chiropractor or whatever if they ask. I have a friend in school with me who’s a really good guy but he’s got a little hang up with always telling people that he’s training to be a doctor or that he’s gonna be a doctor. Not a huge deal but comes across pretentious to me.

[quote]shibalnom wrote:
You think that people with PhDs shouldn’t be called doctor, even in academic settings? Huh? That makes no sense. Do you think someone who has an MD but only does research and doesn’t actively practice medicine has the right to be called doctor? I won’t even get into the allopathic vs osteopathic medicine debate. All physicians are doctors, but not all doctors are physicians.

The only real controversy over the use of the word doctor is when physician assistants, nurse practitioners, and other health care workers with advanced degrees are called doctors in the clinic. This is confusing to most people since they equate “doctor” with “physician”, and in a health care setting this could arguably lead to significant misunderstandings. But that’s a whole other can of worms.[/quote]

x2 million billion. Best post thus far!

I think this guy deserves to be called doctor no matter what the setting is. He’s earned it.