All I listen to is emo screamo music.. i also have a bad RBF if I’m alone.. wonder if I have the stank face as well 
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That’s more of the disaffected, dead stare, with undone hair. Same for deathcore, lol.
This is exactly me.
Not actually married, but near enough. We met “naturally” in that we were just going about our lives and happened to be working together for a while. Without exception, every long term relationship I’ve had has come from a “natural” meeting. I’ve never tried to cold approach someone for a relationship or felt the need to actively pursue a relationship and I firmly believe that these are positives for the longevity of relationships.
Although I see this thread has moved way beyond relationships at this point, so I’ll just answer the questions I was asked and duck out.
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I was brought to a party by a mutual friend, and so was she. She definitely put the moves on me lol (I have no game).
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That’s a great book. I read it years ago. I think you’ll also like Dr. Stephen Baskerville’s new book too.
What’s the point of a forum if not being able to discuss with other people and being offered advice by more experienced people?
I wouldn’t say sexually no. It never was a deal breaker for me. To be fair until I was like 29, I had little apetite.
I had a one night stand a few weeks ago. It has been 11 years before that. It was proposed to me and she was very attractive so sure why not. And she was crazy in the bedroom. like, she would do anything without asking. Honestly it didn’t feel that much enjoyable, not as much as having sex with someone you have a connection. And that was it. Just fun in the moment. But it didn’t made me happy, or fulfilled or anything. Just reinforced my opinion that this kind of intimacy is not for me.
Of course, to an extent. If your goal has zero drive and only does the starfish, that’s a no.
Honestly I’m having many conflictual thoughts about physical expectations.
We are being bombarded with how everyone is beautiful, and that it’s the heart and soul that matters. Also I live with two girls ahah.
I think it’s true. But at the same time a man to woman relation should imply intimacy. And I never had more drive and enjoyed the bedroom fun than with a really hot girl.
I think I want to enjoy this again. Until we’re both old and wrinkly anyway ahahah.
I don’t really care what other people think, it’s just for my own pleasure. Also I find many girls (like muscular ones) attractive, which my friends don’t at all.
Yeah I guess we’ve all been burnt. I have friends who have been single for 5 or even 10 years.
There’s also the other side. I have a friend who has several girlfriends. Sometimes sleeps with several random girls in the same day.
And he told me so many stories and showed me so many sex tapes they would send or seen from my own eyes bizarre scenarios, that honestly it made me reconsider the hassle of trying to find a girl. “It’s like trying to find a needle in a stack of needle”.
Problem is that people (especially girls) now have many, many options, and they usually have a fuckton of issues they never try to fix because they feel validated by society and social media.
Do you think my friend who has a bodycount of 200 is happy? No, couple weeks ago, when we were drunk, he told me about how he was thinking about seeing a therapist, for he had now a fucked up image of women.
He told me the story of some girl he was banging, nothing serious. Well one morning, they have sex, and the afternoon she has a date with a “good man”. She wants to settle, she’s a 30 something single mom.
So, to appear as a good woman she said she “was going to make him work and wouldn’t have sex with him for a month”. But on the side, she’s banging my friend and telling him she won’t know how she’ll be able to make a life with this guy thinking of the bedroom fun with my friend.
So, you think you have a good woman, you make sacrifices, are ready to help her raise her kid, but on the side she’s shagging someone else
So yeah, this is very discouraging.
And, not to say, but the average 30 yo is not that attractive. The average 20 yo is. But after 10 years of stress, partying, drinking and smoking (especially women in France), if you don’t do sports or have crazy genetics, well, you pale in comparison.
But at the same time, 20 yos are still kids. I know loads of them. When they tell me about their stories with the guys, it’s always the same thing: they only care for the tingles, the butterflies in the stomach, the excitement. And it’s exacerbated by social media.
I have a friend, she’s fitness model crazy hot. Guys are sending her dozens of message everyday. She only goes forwards with the ones that propose her things like (actual stuff) “let’s go hike by night in Marseille” or “let’s go watch Netflix on the beach” because it’s exciting and fun.
That’s her only criteria ahahah.
Anyway, that’s another rambling but sometimes I feel split between crazy 20 or ugly 30.
Why? Because usually good women are not crazy into social media, or partying all the time: they’re more discreet. Good luck finding them.
Of course this is all biased by my own experiences.
Tell a woman you want to find a wife, have a family and have kids one day, most will just run away because it’s boring, or they find you too easy.
Well, I assume, for I only dated once in like 2 years.
Yeah yeah. But you know, coaches (at least here) already have a very reputation of being players and all ahahah. But I guess at some point I’ll have to, because a girl won’t just appear in my lap
It’s always or almost how this played out for me. I literally have zero game ahah. But what if you never meet girls? You have no choice ahah
This feels like something above my pay grade to answer. You have to remember I haven’t been single for extended periods in approaching 2 decades so I have absolutely no applicable experience here.
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Online. Tried online dating after moving to a city where I didn’t know anyone.
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For some time I have thought that such men have psychological problems and likely come from fatherless or matriarchal households. They have a peculiar preference for female company, think women exist for nothing more than satisfying and entertaining men, and spend an inordinate amount of time trying to get women. They are also sex addicts.
If you find a woman under 30, she will eventually be 30. How will you deal with that?
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Can I like this several times?
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Sure. 
All of us will be less attractive as we get older.
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Less attractive to who?
I find some 30, 40 and 50 yo that I know very attractive. But they’re rarer. They just take care of themselves, whereas 20 yo don’t have to or so.
In fact I have been talking a lot with a 35 woman, and she’s very attractive. But I don’t want to be a stepfather so no ahah.
Also the girl I had a one-itis on for a year was 30.
But you raise a fair point. We grow old and less attracting. BUT over time, we also build a connexion, memories, stuff like that, which matters a lot.
With a girl I’m not dating or I’m not friend with or something, I don’t have that. So I care more about appearance.
To whom? 
I think they have developped an addiction to it. One other guy I know is like that. In, fact the first person I coached, like 6 years ago. After a long-term relationship he was crushed (and was young, maybe 22), then he discovered Tinder and became a bit crazy, totalling 100 girls in a year.
I’m sure they are sex addict now. They bang either 4 or 10 without discrimination
Less attractive objectively speaking. Generally people are their most physically attractive at eighteen to 25 years old. Perhaps men stretch that a bit more, but not much. Hence back in the day (not too long ago actually) female models, centerfolds, and actresses were “discovered” at eighteen or nineteen years old.
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I’m just going to pop in and say that I LOVE the conversation going on here
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Just thinking of that amount of time with and money spent on strangers makes me feel unwell.
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That is what happens. People focus on sex and passion early on and then focus on child raising and family and community bonds. Hence why there is an inordinate amount of focus on sex and “dating” in society now: there are less families made.
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I am no model, but I will bet people do not consider me more attractive now at 42 with a receding hairline, a balding crown, some gray hairs, crow’s feet, and jowl lines compared to when I had none of these at eighteen to 25 years old.
100% agree.
The point I was trying to make was that within the confines of a relationship, I haven’t found that to be true. Maybe I’ve got lucky or it’s just too early in life to tell.
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