The Dark Knight Rises

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[quote]JaseHxC wrote:
While I’m sure it’s only wishful thinking, I’d like to see Catwoman take a backseat to Bane. I’m quite certain Hardy will steal the show even if his screentime is much less than everyone else. As far as what size he’ll be coming in at, he really only needs to be bigger than Bale, even though it would take away from the comic book depiction of Bane. Perhaps they could compensate by showing Bane’s sheer amount of strength during his time on film?[/quote]

They’ll probably use camera tricks to make him appear bigger. I’m sure he’ll pack on some size for the movie and they’ll shoot him to make him appear taller than he is. I hope they show his strength but not in a TOO ridiculous fashion. Even if he does pick up a car and throw it at batman (or something like that) as long as they make it look ‘believable’ then i’ll be happy (i know thats kinda confusing… i just dont want it to be too cheesy looking)

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[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]JaseHxC wrote:
While I’m sure it’s only wishful thinking, I’d like to see Catwoman take a backseat to Bane. I’m quite certain Hardy will steal the show even if his screentime is much less than everyone else. As far as what size he’ll be coming in at, he really only needs to be bigger than Bale, even though it would take away from the comic book depiction of Bane. Perhaps they could compensate by showing Bane’s sheer amount of strength during his time on film?[/quote]

They’ll probably use camera tricks to make him appear bigger. I’m sure he’ll pack on some size for the movie and they’ll shoot him to make him appear taller than he is. I hope they show his strength but not in a TOO ridiculous fashion. Even if he does pick up a car and throw it at batman (or something like that) as long as they make it look ‘believable’ then i’ll be happy (i know thats kinda confusing… i just dont want it to be too cheesy looking)[/quote]

I think Nolan will do a good job of conveying Bane’s strength in as realistic a manner as possible. He’s known for using as little CGI as he can. Even in Inception, there was surprisingly little CGI.

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[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:
Eh, agree with DBCooper here, dont think Catwoman is going to be a good addition for the movie. Like he said, too complicated to fit into one movie[/quote]

To be fair, the Joker was a pretty complicated role that they managed to get all into one movie. I was extremely surprised at how well they developed that character in the last film. They also really developed Dent/Two Face in that movie.

I’m sure the movie will be longer than your standard 1:45 minute movie (like TDK was) where they can get more character development in.

I was very impressed with both of the Nolan Batman films so far… so I’m sure they can do this one right. Nolan wouldn’t screw around on his last film of the series.

EDIT: Plus Anne Hathaway is smokin hot. She’s one of my celeb crushes for sure :slight_smile: [/quote]

Hmm, very true, though with the Joker you did not have the whole “love interest” angle, which can be difficult to properly convey.

However, I do have faith in Nolan that he can pull this off.

x2 on Hathaway being smokin hot

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[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:
Eh, agree with DBCooper here, dont think Catwoman is going to be a good addition for the movie. Like he said, too complicated to fit into one movie[/quote]

To be fair, the Joker was a pretty complicated role that they managed to get all into one movie. I was extremely surprised at how well they developed that character in the last film. They also really developed Dent/Two Face in that movie.

I’m sure the movie will be longer than your standard 1:45 minute movie (like TDK was) where they can get more character development in.

I was very impressed with both of the Nolan Batman films so far… so I’m sure they can do this one right. Nolan wouldn’t screw around on his last film of the series.

EDIT: Plus Anne Hathaway is smokin hot. She’s one of my celeb crushes for sure :slight_smile: [/quote]

I don’t think the Joker’s relationship with Batman is that complicated. The Joker is a homicidal freak who believes that the only thing separating him from Batman is his inclination for murder. And to the Joker, that’s a very small separation.

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Anyone else hoping for a scene of Bane killin’ it in the gym? Getting an elite total with ease persay?

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Double Post* Summer 2012 must come sooner

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:
Eh, agree with DBCooper here, dont think Catwoman is going to be a good addition for the movie. Like he said, too complicated to fit into one movie[/quote]

To be fair, the Joker was a pretty complicated role that they managed to get all into one movie. I was extremely surprised at how well they developed that character in the last film. They also really developed Dent/Two Face in that movie.

I’m sure the movie will be longer than your standard 1:45 minute movie (like TDK was) where they can get more character development in.

I was very impressed with both of the Nolan Batman films so far… so I’m sure they can do this one right. Nolan wouldn’t screw around on his last film of the series.

EDIT: Plus Anne Hathaway is smokin hot. She’s one of my celeb crushes for sure :slight_smile: [/quote]

I don’t think the Joker’s relationship with Batman is that complicated. The Joker is a homicidal freak who believes that the only thing separating him from Batman is his inclination for murder. And to the Joker, that’s a very small separation. [/quote]

Depends on which stories you read, some story arcs have dived headfirst into the relationship and parallels between The Joker and Batman, very deep and very interesting.

Get a hold of Alan Moore’s “The Killing Joke” and Frank Miller’s “The Dark Knight Returns,” both examine aspects of the relationship between the two. If you have already read them, then dammit re read them, they are awesome haha.

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Everyone was pissed when they found out about Heath Ledger as Joker, and he turned in one of the best cinematic performances of all time. I think Nolan knows what he’s doing. The movie will be awesome.

I dislike Anne Hathaway though.

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[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:
Eh, agree with DBCooper here, dont think Catwoman is going to be a good addition for the movie. Like he said, too complicated to fit into one movie[/quote]

To be fair, the Joker was a pretty complicated role that they managed to get all into one movie. I was extremely surprised at how well they developed that character in the last film. They also really developed Dent/Two Face in that movie.

I’m sure the movie will be longer than your standard 1:45 minute movie (like TDK was) where they can get more character development in.

I was very impressed with both of the Nolan Batman films so far… so I’m sure they can do this one right. Nolan wouldn’t screw around on his last film of the series.

EDIT: Plus Anne Hathaway is smokin hot. She’s one of my celeb crushes for sure :slight_smile: [/quote]

I don’t think the Joker’s relationship with Batman is that complicated. The Joker is a homicidal freak who believes that the only thing separating him from Batman is his inclination for murder. And to the Joker, that’s a very small separation. [/quote]

Depends on which stories you read, some story arcs have dived headfirst into the relationship and parallels between The Joker and Batman, very deep and very interesting.

Get a hold of Alan Moore’s “The Killing Joke” and Frank Miller’s “The Dark Knight Returns,” both examine aspects of the relationship between the two. If you have already read them, then dammit re read them, they are awesome haha.[/quote]

I bought those when they came out. I think that the relationship isn’t complex at all. But it DOES have enough depth to it to leave room for all sorts of examinations to it. There are endless ways to investigate the relationship between the two while still remaining fresh and relevant. But I don’t think the gist of the relationship is complex at all.

The love/hate relationship between Wayne/Kyle and Catwoman/Batman is much more complex simply because you are dealing with alter egos AND their real identities (which basically means the story between them is really between 4 people), love in general is complex, and the fact that Wayne has the capacity to love someone who is the anti-thesis of what Batman stands for is a real paradox for him. In many ways, Catwoman forces Batman to confront the paradoxical nature of having two polar opposite identities, one of which (Wayne) is much safer but not at all who he really is.

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true steel. BANE!

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I really hope Tom Hardy is in it. He was so awesome in Bronson

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If this is the 3rd and final installment of the batman movies, i might have to rock in the shower and cry a lot…man, only one more batman movie by chris nolan would hurt my head/heart a lot.

They are an inspiration to a guy like me…

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:
Eh, agree with DBCooper here, dont think Catwoman is going to be a good addition for the movie. Like he said, too complicated to fit into one movie[/quote]

To be fair, the Joker was a pretty complicated role that they managed to get all into one movie. I was extremely surprised at how well they developed that character in the last film. They also really developed Dent/Two Face in that movie.

I’m sure the movie will be longer than your standard 1:45 minute movie (like TDK was) where they can get more character development in.

I was very impressed with both of the Nolan Batman films so far… so I’m sure they can do this one right. Nolan wouldn’t screw around on his last film of the series.

EDIT: Plus Anne Hathaway is smokin hot. She’s one of my celeb crushes for sure :slight_smile: [/quote]

I don’t think the Joker’s relationship with Batman is that complicated. The Joker is a homicidal freak who believes that the only thing separating him from Batman is his inclination for murder. And to the Joker, that’s a very small separation. [/quote]

Depends on which stories you read, some story arcs have dived headfirst into the relationship and parallels between The Joker and Batman, very deep and very interesting.

Get a hold of Alan Moore’s “The Killing Joke” and Frank Miller’s “The Dark Knight Returns,” both examine aspects of the relationship between the two. If you have already read them, then dammit re read them, they are awesome haha.[/quote]

I bought those when they came out. I think that the relationship isn’t complex at all. But it DOES have enough depth to it to leave room for all sorts of examinations to it. There are endless ways to investigate the relationship between the two while still remaining fresh and relevant. But I don’t think the gist of the relationship is complex at all.

The love/hate relationship between Wayne/Kyle and Catwoman/Batman is much more complex simply because you are dealing with alter egos AND their real identities (which basically means the story between them is really between 4 people), love in general is complex, and the fact that Wayne has the capacity to love someone who is the anti-thesis of what Batman stands for is a real paradox for him. In many ways, Catwoman forces Batman to confront the paradoxical nature of having two polar opposite identities, one of which (Wayne) is much safer but not at all who he really is.[/quote]

Hmm…I see your point, I’m gonna agree with you here.

And seriously, were those not some of the best graphic novels ever?

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[quote]JaseHxC wrote:
Anyone else hoping for a scene of Bane killin’ it in the gym? Getting an elite total with ease persay?[/quote]

Maybe we can get some fan-boy pandering, and he’ll set off the lunk alarm?

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I think it’s safe to say that there will be multiple villians in this movie, ala TDK with Scarecrow early followed by the Joker and Two-Face or Batman Begins with Falcone/Scarecrow/Ra’s Al Ghoul.

Also, this line is incorrect from the collider.com link from above:
"The Dark Knight gave a nod to her inclusion in the next film when Lucius Fox (Morgan Freeman) quips that Batmanâ??s armor â??Should do fine against cats.â??

Fox makes the reference to dogs, not cats.

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[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:
Eh, agree with DBCooper here, dont think Catwoman is going to be a good addition for the movie. Like he said, too complicated to fit into one movie[/quote]

To be fair, the Joker was a pretty complicated role that they managed to get all into one movie. I was extremely surprised at how well they developed that character in the last film. They also really developed Dent/Two Face in that movie.

I’m sure the movie will be longer than your standard 1:45 minute movie (like TDK was) where they can get more character development in.

I was very impressed with both of the Nolan Batman films so far… so I’m sure they can do this one right. Nolan wouldn’t screw around on his last film of the series.

EDIT: Plus Anne Hathaway is smokin hot. She’s one of my celeb crushes for sure :slight_smile: [/quote]

I don’t think the Joker’s relationship with Batman is that complicated. The Joker is a homicidal freak who believes that the only thing separating him from Batman is his inclination for murder. And to the Joker, that’s a very small separation. [/quote]

Depends on which stories you read, some story arcs have dived headfirst into the relationship and parallels between The Joker and Batman, very deep and very interesting.

Get a hold of Alan Moore’s “The Killing Joke” and Frank Miller’s “The Dark Knight Returns,” both examine aspects of the relationship between the two. If you have already read them, then dammit re read them, they are awesome haha.[/quote]

I bought those when they came out. I think that the relationship isn’t complex at all. But it DOES have enough depth to it to leave room for all sorts of examinations to it. There are endless ways to investigate the relationship between the two while still remaining fresh and relevant. But I don’t think the gist of the relationship is complex at all.

The love/hate relationship between Wayne/Kyle and Catwoman/Batman is much more complex simply because you are dealing with alter egos AND their real identities (which basically means the story between them is really between 4 people), love in general is complex, and the fact that Wayne has the capacity to love someone who is the anti-thesis of what Batman stands for is a real paradox for him. In many ways, Catwoman forces Batman to confront the paradoxical nature of having two polar opposite identities, one of which (Wayne) is much safer but not at all who he really is.[/quote]

Hmm…I see your point, I’m gonna agree with you here.

And seriously, were those not some of the best graphic novels ever?[/quote]

Any book that has batman beating the fuck out of Superman is automatically awesome. Especially a 55 yr old batman.
Oh and Batman Arkhum Asylum another great graphic novel.

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Tom Hardy is the fucking man.

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[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:
Eh, agree with DBCooper here, dont think Catwoman is going to be a good addition for the movie. Like he said, too complicated to fit into one movie[/quote]

To be fair, the Joker was a pretty complicated role that they managed to get all into one movie. I was extremely surprised at how well they developed that character in the last film. They also really developed Dent/Two Face in that movie.

I’m sure the movie will be longer than your standard 1:45 minute movie (like TDK was) where they can get more character development in.

I was very impressed with both of the Nolan Batman films so far… so I’m sure they can do this one right. Nolan wouldn’t screw around on his last film of the series.

EDIT: Plus Anne Hathaway is smokin hot. She’s one of my celeb crushes for sure :slight_smile: [/quote]

I don’t think the Joker’s relationship with Batman is that complicated. The Joker is a homicidal freak who believes that the only thing separating him from Batman is his inclination for murder. And to the Joker, that’s a very small separation. [/quote]

Depends on which stories you read, some story arcs have dived headfirst into the relationship and parallels between The Joker and Batman, very deep and very interesting.

Get a hold of Alan Moore’s “The Killing Joke” and Frank Miller’s “The Dark Knight Returns,” both examine aspects of the relationship between the two. If you have already read them, then dammit re read them, they are awesome haha.[/quote]

I bought those when they came out. I think that the relationship isn’t complex at all. But it DOES have enough depth to it to leave room for all sorts of examinations to it. There are endless ways to investigate the relationship between the two while still remaining fresh and relevant. But I don’t think the gist of the relationship is complex at all.

The love/hate relationship between Wayne/Kyle and Catwoman/Batman is much more complex simply because you are dealing with alter egos AND their real identities (which basically means the story between them is really between 4 people), love in general is complex, and the fact that Wayne has the capacity to love someone who is the anti-thesis of what Batman stands for is a real paradox for him. In many ways, Catwoman forces Batman to confront the paradoxical nature of having two polar opposite identities, one of which (Wayne) is much safer but not at all who he really is.[/quote]

Hmm…I see your point, I’m gonna agree with you here.

And seriously, were those not some of the best graphic novels ever?[/quote]

Oh fuck yeah they were! I still own the same copies that I bought way back in the day. I reread the Dark Knight Returns all the time! I also loved Year One, The Cult and the first Hush appearances. Frank Miller was the shit. I wouldn’t mind seeing some sort of Sin City-esque take on Batman after Nolan is done. He’s completely raised the bar to whole 'nother level with the first two films. Shit, Heath Ledger as the Joker made Jack Nicholson look like Cesar Romero. I think Nolan is shaping up to be a director much in the mold of Kubrick or an early Oliver Stone: extremely meticulous in his creation of the movie and the world it occurs in ala Kubrick, and capable of pulling great performances out of actors like Stone used to (M. Douglas as Gekko, Berenger and Dafoe in Platoon and Cruise in Born on the 4th of July to name a few). Not only can I not wait until this film comes out, I can’t wait for his next film of any kind to come out.

I’m still not sold on Anne Hathaway though. I did Google “Anne Hathaway nude pics” earlier and she’s definitely hotter than I thought she was. But she just doesn’t seem sultry and sexy enough in a dark, dirty way like Catwoman should be. I thought Marion Cotillard from Inception would have been a MUCH better choice. She’s got kinky sex kitten written all over her, and she’s already proven to be an actor capable of expressing a lot of emotional depth.

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Catwomen I bet will not be in a Skin-tight leather suit if anything it will just be a very seductive theif lady. And Bane will just be a super smart Bad guy. I mean thats the only way i can see these characters coming alive in the Nolan’s Batman universe.

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:
Eh, agree with DBCooper here, dont think Catwoman is going to be a good addition for the movie. Like he said, too complicated to fit into one movie[/quote]

To be fair, the Joker was a pretty complicated role that they managed to get all into one movie. I was extremely surprised at how well they developed that character in the last film. They also really developed Dent/Two Face in that movie.

I’m sure the movie will be longer than your standard 1:45 minute movie (like TDK was) where they can get more character development in.

I was very impressed with both of the Nolan Batman films so far… so I’m sure they can do this one right. Nolan wouldn’t screw around on his last film of the series.

EDIT: Plus Anne Hathaway is smokin hot. She’s one of my celeb crushes for sure :slight_smile: [/quote]

I don’t think the Joker’s relationship with Batman is that complicated. The Joker is a homicidal freak who believes that the only thing separating him from Batman is his inclination for murder. And to the Joker, that’s a very small separation. [/quote]

Depends on which stories you read, some story arcs have dived headfirst into the relationship and parallels between The Joker and Batman, very deep and very interesting.

Get a hold of Alan Moore’s “The Killing Joke” and Frank Miller’s “The Dark Knight Returns,” both examine aspects of the relationship between the two. If you have already read them, then dammit re read them, they are awesome haha.[/quote]

I bought those when they came out. I think that the relationship isn’t complex at all. But it DOES have enough depth to it to leave room for all sorts of examinations to it. There are endless ways to investigate the relationship between the two while still remaining fresh and relevant. But I don’t think the gist of the relationship is complex at all.

The love/hate relationship between Wayne/Kyle and Catwoman/Batman is much more complex simply because you are dealing with alter egos AND their real identities (which basically means the story between them is really between 4 people), love in general is complex, and the fact that Wayne has the capacity to love someone who is the anti-thesis of what Batman stands for is a real paradox for him. In many ways, Catwoman forces Batman to confront the paradoxical nature of having two polar opposite identities, one of which (Wayne) is much safer but not at all who he really is.[/quote]

Hmm…I see your point, I’m gonna agree with you here.

And seriously, were those not some of the best graphic novels ever?[/quote]

Oh fuck yeah they were! I still own the same copies that I bought way back in the day. I reread the Dark Knight Returns all the time! I also loved Year One, The Cult and the first Hush appearances. Frank Miller was the shit. I wouldn’t mind seeing some sort of Sin City-esque take on Batman after Nolan is done. He’s completely raised the bar to whole 'nother level with the first two films. Shit, Heath Ledger as the Joker made Jack Nicholson look like Cesar Romero. I think Nolan is shaping up to be a director much in the mold of Kubrick or an early Oliver Stone: extremely meticulous in his creation of the movie and the world it occurs in ala Kubrick, and capable of pulling great performances out of actors like Stone used to (M. Douglas as Gekko, Berenger and Dafoe in Platoon and Cruise in Born on the 4th of July to name a few). Not only can I not wait until this film comes out, I can’t wait for his next film of any kind to come out.

I’m still not sold on Anne Hathaway though. I did Google “Anne Hathaway nude pics” earlier and she’s definitely hotter than I thought she was. But she just doesn’t seem sultry and sexy enough in a dark, dirty way like Catwoman should be. I thought Marion Cotillard from Inception would have been a MUCH better choice. She’s got kinky sex kitten written all over her, and she’s already proven to be an actor capable of expressing a lot of emotional depth.[/quote]
supposedly cotillard turned down a role