The cardio should be good for your weight training. All this talk of powerlifters don’t do cardio…then you hear guys like wendler and tate say that improving your conditioning will be really good for your lifting
I am though switching to a more bodybuilding type of workout, when I’m done with this strength program. But I still think a bit of running won’t hurt me or my massive muscle gains I’m about to receive ![]()
The amount of running you’re talking about won’t be near enough to derail your gainz. It will probably help to ensure that you gain primarily muscle instead of fat, I would expect.
Yeah it won’t derail you. Plus, it’s good for the soul lol
Curious to hear about the factors that led to your decision to spend a little time with BB work. I know I made a similar decision at the beginning of the year after devoting 2018 to strength … Did you talk about it in your log? I might have missed it …
Why not cycling? I’m under the impression that cycling affects lifting less than running
I’m trying to recall too now. It definitely isn’t a bad idea. I took around three months or so before signing on with Greg where all I did was focused on bodybuilding. Learned a ton, and by the end was close to my strongest again.
Actually @mortdk what I was doing might float your boat
How did your lower back feel with this combination? I know for sure mine would lock up hard
@burien_top_team probably @jackolee log and @Frank_C switching to BB.
And of course I would like to try to build some muscles.
@guineapig in my job I should be able to run after the bad guys. And I like the fact that I can put on a pair of sneakers and be done in about 10 - 15 minutes. It takes a little longer on the bike.
@MarkKO did you do any specific program, I can’t really remember?
@Koestrizer No problems with lower back. I’m only running for about 5 minutes, then some stretches and catching my breath, then 500 m easy before the 400 m.
My legs are a bit stiff today, so I can feel it. But not somuch in my lower back.
Somehow I must have missed that you are a police officer. Yeah you gotta be able to chase down the bad guys for sure!
Hello Mort
A bit of running shouldn’t hurt. Just don’t go nuts like I did and sign up for a half marathon or anything. That absolutely interferes with your gains. And if you’re like me, you end up overdoing it, get injured then lose 6 months recovering!
Been there, done that. Right now I’m chasing a bit of faster running, so the longest distance I’m going to run is 1 mile.
I’m timing my 400m, 1K and 1M. Will track my 100 and 200 m dash as well, but I have to be careful here, I’ve tweaked my hammies on several occasions doing 100 m sprints.
Woke at 81,2 kg - 179 lbs
calories yesterday 2250: 216C, 163P, 76F
Todays training
Viking Power Builder protocol
C3W4D1 OHP 90%
Warmup: Ergorower, kneeling bottom up kb press, bpa, yoga flow
OHP warm up giant set
Pull up BW 5 x 7
OHP 10 x 20, 5 x 30, 40, 45 kg, 2 x 50 kg
Bicycle crunch 5 x 12 each side
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OHP main lift
OHP: 2 singles @ 57,5 kg
Back off sets
7 x 50 kg
7 x 45 kg
8 x 40 kg
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Assistance giant set
BB row underhand grip 8 x 20, 45, 55, 65, 75 kg
CGPB 8 x 20, 45, 55, 65 kg 4 x 75 kg
Side plank lifting upper leg 5 x 8 lifts each side.
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Finisher Giant set
DB press 5 x 13
Lat pull down neutral close grip 5 x 12 @ 65 kg
Mcgill Curl up 5 x 8 each leg
Little to no rest
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3 headed monster 2 x 10 @ 5 kg
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Cycle home continued there:
lateral raise 3 x 10 @ 8 kg dropset 10 @ 5 kg, 10 2,5 kg
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1 hour 15 minutes + 10 minutes warm up.
OHP was fine. Pull ups were awesome.
Not much to say about assistance.
Finisher was great, so was my little lat raise at home.
Don’t you love the feeling of not being able to lift a 2.5 to horizontal after lateral raise dropsets
@mortdk I wasn’t following anything in particular. It was five days a week, upper/lower/upper/lower. I set that up as
Monday - shoulders/back/arms
Tuesday - lower back and legs
Wednesday - chest/back/arms
Thursday - legs and lower back
Friday - shoulders/back/arms
I was using double progression for the big stuff, not really fussing about anything but MMC on the small stuff. Generally rotate the big stuff every three weeks or so, more fluid with the small stuff.
No… Yeah it’s kind of a cool way to train, didn’t go all the way to failure though. Just trying things out.
I did some 8x8s Vince Gironda style last week, they seem to be good too.
I’ve been looking at something like that Mark.
I do think I’ll stick to the Tried and True BB program, hitting each muscle group once a week on a 4 day schedule. That way I think I could work out almost everyday if I’m up to it. Making it a bit more than once a day.
Oh still debating about what to do.
I’m thinking about just hitting the fatigued max and move on. I’m going to decide after that week.
I think you’ve earned a fatigued max at the very least. Why not just do the first two weeks of the peak? Then you can decide whether to do the remaining three weeks or not.
That was what I meant maybe I didn’t Express it very well
but I will do the first two weeks and then decide
Interesting that you mention @jackolee’s log. I noticed over the past few months that some of the logs that were increasingly attracting my attention were the BB/physique oriented logs. I’d already made the switch for 2019, but jackolee’s and other similar logs definitely fueled the fire.
Ironically, I was a little worried about doing BB after reading about @eyedentist’s struggle to gain significant muscle after 50. Then again, I figure I’m a beginner at BB this year just like I was a beginner at strength training last year. So maybe I’ve got some newbie gains in BB to come if things go well.
BTW, glad to hear about the running. I know I’m very glad to have another “major” physical outlet in addition to the gym/weight training. I remember reading something (from CT? Jim?) about training vs testing. For me, having something else in addition to weight training where I can do my “testing” makes it easier to let weight training be “training.”