[quote]LBRTRN wrote:
deanosumo wrote:
LBRTRN wrote:
This whole “Mission Accomplished” argument really bugs me. Did any of you actually listen to the speech? Just in case you missed it, Bush said the following while standing underneath the now infamous banner:
“We have difficult work to do in Iraq. We’re bringing order to parts of that country that remain dangerous…The transition from dictatorship to democracy will take time, but it is worth every effort.”
Now, are you really going to claim Bush was saying the war is over? Its not like Bush swaggered out onto the runway, yelled yeeeehaaaa and said, “The War is over boys!! It’ll be clear sailin’ from here on out!!” He said, in no uncertain terms, the fighting isnt over and it aint gonna be over for some time.
By “Mission Accomplished,” the administration was congratulating the troops on a job well done, specifically, those aboard the Lincoln who were on their way home. Seriously, all partisanship aside, what in the hell is wrong with that? Many mistakes have been made, but that is not one of them.
I realize this was a favorite talking point of the Democrats in the run up to the election, but its over now, so please, for the love God, enough with the phony outrage. There is plenty to criticize Bush about…stick to the stuff that actually matters.
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He can say all he wants that there is still ‘Difficult Work’ to be done, but when you hear the words ‘Mission Accomplished’ what do you think of? One may be tempted to think, this means the job is done. Accomplished does not mean first quarter or fifth or tenth of a job has been done. Whatever he said afterwards on the carrier, ‘Mission Accomplished’ was a misnomer.
You’re right about one thing- there is plenty to criticize Bush about. And my outrage isn’t phony, although I do like poking fun in a lot of threads on this site. But when you live overseas, in a country where the news actually shows the casualties, from both sides, you realise how horrible this conflict is. I’ve seen young American men lying dead in the street. And yesterday I saw an Iraqi boy whose home was bombed by a US jet. He was in the hospital. His hands had been burned off. His arms were charred to stumps. He asked the doctor if he was going to get new hands. The doctor couldn’t answer. The boy said if he did not receive new hands he would kill himself. You don’t see that sort of stuff on TV in America. It’s deemed ‘In bad taste’ Can you believe this? It’s not distasteful to do the act, but it’s distasteful to show it? I guess I’m ranting, but this war does excite my passions like nothing has in my life to date. Personally, none of my outrage over the war, any aspect of the war, is phony.
I dont mean to imply that your moral outrage over the war is phony, I apologize for that. Its just my personal opinion that the outrage over a banner (I dont think Bush even said, “Mission Accomplished” in the speech) is a bit much…a mountain out of a mole hill, if you will. The whole point of the “Mission Accomplished” banner was to congratulate the troops who had just overthrown an enemy regime. It signaled an end to major military combat- no more large armored troop movements and such, thats it, nothing more.
As to your point about the death of innocent people…I couldn?t agree with you more. It is tragic and our media should show more of it. If only we could have witnessed the death and torture that occurred in Iraq prior to US military involvement, that might put this whole thing in context. I hope that when all this is over, future generations of Iraqis will be able to live their lives with some semblance of normalcy and happiness; something they havent known for decades.
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You make a lot of sense. Get angry over things, not names. Actually I put ‘Mission Accomplished’ in this ‘dictionary’ for a laugh. It’s like saying Bush committed a crime for ‘Bring it on’, something he has since apologised for, which, in the context of all the shocking decisions he had made, didn’t bother me.
If you are interested in seeing the real side of the war, a good place to go is the DemocracyNow website. They present a viewpoint different to that you will see on any of the free-to-air TV networks or even CNN.