[quote]Der Candy wrote:
I feel so cozy and warm reading this thread.
yay for bodybuilding![/quote]
This is what I thought when I first logged into the thread just now! Hello Der Candy, Professor X, and Fulmen, and anyone else who is SICK TO DEATH of hearing about things unrelated to getting jacked, things that are completely foreign and alien to the bodybuilding world that have fucked up the training and mindset of many a newbie!
Hats off to Fulmen, a man who has chosen to start a thread on the TRUTH of BODYBUILDING, not “keeping fit”, “functional”, or correcting postural imbalances (although this one deserves its attention, just not here!)!
I regret not logging into this thread earlier. I didn’t know what the heck “Bodybuilding Bunker” would be about and the talk of no allowance of 10x3, Waterbury methods, HIIT, EDT, and anything else that bodybuilders do NOT do has really lit a fire under my ass and I can’t help but produce one of my maniacal tirades!
NEW YORK PRO SHOW
Who the fuck is going?! I am! PM or respond here if you are going. I am going with some chic friend and one of my friends. I went when it was the NOC when Markus Ruhl won and the NYC crowd is nuts!
THE HIJACKING OF BODYBUILDING
We now have a gang of overly educated intellectuals hijacking the world of bodybuilding communications, websites, DVDs, magazines, and seminars, discussing “hypertrophy protocols” that NO bodybuilders, recreational, aspiring, or competitive, even fucking DO, which is why I am SO glad that there will be no talk of 10x3 or any other type of stuff that bodybuilders do not DO!
I say this, have the S&C coaches stick to their trade and bodybuilders will stick to theirs. I have learned A LOT from them but they need to stick with their trade in my opinion. There are only a handful (maybe not even) of authors on this site or who WERE on this site who have experience training or competing like a bodybuilder: Clay Hyght, Ron Harris (who no longer writes here at all), Lonnie Lowery, and CT (whose articles from the past 3 years or so are the best on here for BB purposes). I say stick with SIZE and dieting coaches when it comes to bodybuilding.
I also find it funny how many strength coaches continually write for bodybuilding publications while at the same time criticize the training and culture of bodybuilding. Poliquin used to do this quite often.
In regards to getting jacked, you know, bodybuilding, not keeping in shape or building some muscle, I have the following stuff to say just for observation purposes.
TBT, Movement Based Splits, and Upper Lower Splits, and Various Rep-Set Protocols
I think these strategies are of course VERY appropriate for people who simply like to work out, need a beginner’s routine, are athletically oriented, or who have postural imbalances and need to get back on track. However, I do not know one fuckin’ BODYBUILDER who does this shit. I also do not know ONE bodybuilder who has said that he does anything but 2 - 4 sets of anywhere between 6 to 12 reps for a few exercises per muscle group. I know of guys that used to train like regular BBers, myself included, then started to experiment with these hi tech things and actually LOST their jackedness. Not that they looked bad, but they definitely lose size! What does that say? I never heard of a modern day bodybuilder training his or her muscles 6 times a week, a la high frequency enthusiast CW, regardless of how well rested their slow MUs were untapped during their previous weight training session that tapped their fast MUs.
I have never heard of a bodybuilder ingesting various, exotic ingredients in their diets. Some of them ingest about 5 to 7 damn ingredients all day, for years and come out just fine: oatmeal, rice, potatoes, chicken, eggs, beef, veggies, fish, fruit. No quinoa, no microbial organism rich yogurt, no bison, no ostrich, no juicy mangos from DR, no crocodile meat, no digestive enzymes, no greens plus, or any other ingredients that would shrink the wallets of middle class folks.
No anti-oatmealism, no anti-carbism, no ketoism, no high-fatism, no chelation therapy via parenteral nutrition! No Vit c Parenteral nutrition! No chains, no bands, no balls, no density training…
no intensification training, no accumulation training, no planned overtraining until physical and emotional collapse, no supersetting of agonists/antagonists, no strength
phases, no exotic drug cycles, no cyclical ketogenic diets, no food allergy talk…
no bathing and showering with fish oil!
That’s it! I’m off to the gym for some 2 sets of 8 to 12 reps on some useless isolation exercises after which I will be ingesting some beef and white potatoes and a salad with olive oil and vinegar (yeah, fats and a carb together, like every dumbfuck BBer does).
Hail Fulmen!