The Body Weight Factor

Training
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Listening to Prof X’s advice was probably the worst thing I did for my lifting career. Sure I got bigger and stronger, but the fat gain wasn’t worth it.
In clothes I looked good, and always got comments from friends/family ect. but I never dared to take my shirt off…

Sure my goal wasn’t to get fat, but watching prof X beat down on all the newbs at the time and always telling them to EAT EAT EAT no matter what, I made sure my ass was always stuffing my face. & I trained my ass off, so that wasn’t an issue clearly. I will say, not everyone genetics allow them to stuff their face and get away with it, especially for guys like me who store a lot of BF in the mid-section area.

Anyways, I’ve been removed from lifting for a year plus, and have started back up 3 weeks ago. (Side note: I will never let go of lifting again, I feel like I had lost a part of me)

Im following the IF protocol and not going nuts on the food, I’ve been losing fat and gaining muscle (ill credit some of it to muscle memory here, but still.)

I’ll also say, following X’s mentality especially at the time when I was younger and more naive really fucked up my mind in a sort of way. I’d always be worried about stuffing my face in every meal, every 3 hours. & god forbid I missed a meal, man I thought i’d lose all my gains, lolssss. No more stress, this is supposed to be an enjoyable journey, not a freaking job!

Plus staying at a decent bf 10-14% and gaining muscle at a reasonable rate and not trying to go HAMBONES will lead to the same net gains if not more vs Bulking up getting soft, then having to maintain that for a while, then finally cutting down. Nah fuck that, I’d rather be comfortable with my body all year round, and not having to go to extremes on both sides of the spectrum.

/Long random rant over

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I am still asking how you can increase volume but not increase the size of something.

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[quote]Liv92 wrote:
I will say, not everyone genetics allow them to stuff their face and get away with it, especially for guys like me who store a lot of BF in the mid-section area. [/quote]

Dude, if you are gaining too much fat from building, you should have cut back on calories. No one has said anything else and no one told you ever to gain more body fat.

Quit the nonsense.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]heavythrower wrote:

haha, nobody else took it as a serious challenge to a fight…lol

but you, really though, you know i was not serious as well. good job.[/quote]

I didn’t think it was ever a serious challenge. I simply said if I had written the same everyone would have faulted it for being “arrogant” lacking in humility and everything else they could think of…while yours got ignored.

Simply put, it made little sense at all considering how much skill plays into fighting.

I am not trolling…and what have I written that is upsetting people?[/quote]

i guess it is as much as the way you state your points as much as the actual content.

your such an asshole, that you could recite children’s poetry and it would probably piss some of the people her off enough to start a 20 page thread, the ones that still take you seriously i mean.

605

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]heavythrower wrote:
fake strength? maybe not, but i tell you,

me at y biggest ans strongest, 260-270lbs, 60 foot shot put, 100foot 22lb hammer, nearly 700 squat and deadlift, 400lb clean and jerk,

and take you at your 260lbs or so with you hammer strength glory,

if were to lock up i am pretty sure you would get tossed around quite a bit.

“fake strength” no, definitely not, but a very different type of strength that translates much more to real world or sport, yes. [/quote]

The world is a free weight.[/quote]

ummm…ok?

606

[quote]heavythrower wrote:

i guess it is as much as the way you state your points as much as the actual content.[/quote]

Then that also relies on the perspective of the one reading.

Do you ever consider your perspective may be wrong at all?

I don’t see anything written in this whole thread to piss anyone off.

What I do see is many posters literal;ly attacking what I write when I am backing it up.

I have been told that you can increase volume but NOT increase size. That isn’t science.

I am told that fat alone is what causes changes in insulin resistance as if gaining fat at all has a direct relationship with insulin. This is also not science.

Yet people have more of a problem with what I said about HS machines than that? Enough to literally switch around what I actually did say?

We were just told no one on the entire planet has ever gained 80lbs of muscle naturally…but no one has a problem with that? No one asks where they got this info from?

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[quote]Liv92 wrote:
Listening to Prof X’s advice was probably the worst thing I did for my lifting career. Sure I got bigger and stronger, but the fat gain wasn’t worth it.
In clothes I looked good, and always got comments from friends/family ect. but I never dared to take my shirt off…

Sure my goal wasn’t to get fat, but watching prof X beat down on all the newbs at the time and always telling them to EAT EAT EAT no matter what, I made sure my ass was always stuffing my face. & I trained my ass off, so that wasn’t an issue clearly. I will say, not everyone genetics allow them to stuff their face and get away with it, especially for guys like me who store a lot of BF in the mid-section area.

Anyways, I’ve been removed from lifting for a year plus, and have started back up 3 weeks ago. (Side note: I will never let go of lifting again, I feel like I had lost a part of me)

Im following the IF protocol and not going nuts on the food, I’ve been losing fat and gaining muscle (ill credit some of it to muscle memory here, but still.)

I’ll also say, following X’s mentality especially at the time when I was younger and more naive really fucked up my mind in a sort of way. I’d always be worried about stuffing my face in every meal, every 3 hours. & god forbid I missed a meal, man I thought i’d lose all my gains, lolssss. No more stress, this is supposed to be an enjoyable journey, not a freaking job!

Plus staying at a decent bf 10-14% and gaining muscle at a reasonable rate and not trying to go HAMBONES will lead to the same net gains if not more vs Bulking up getting soft, then having to maintain that for a while, then finally cutting down. Nah fuck that, I’d rather be comfortable with my body all year round, and not having to go to extremes on both sides of the spectrum.

/Long random rant over[/quote]

Sucks you had to take time off, what caused it?

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[quote]heavythrower wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]heavythrower wrote:

haha, nobody else took it as a serious challenge to a fight…lol

but you, really though, you know i was not serious as well. good job.[/quote]

I didn’t think it was ever a serious challenge. I simply said if I had written the same everyone would have faulted it for being “arrogant” lacking in humility and everything else they could think of…while yours got ignored.

Simply put, it made little sense at all considering how much skill plays into fighting.

I am not trolling…and what have I written that is upsetting people?[/quote]

i guess it is as much as the way you state your points as much as the actual content.

your such an asshole, that you could recite children’s poetry and it would probably piss some of the people her off enough to start a 20 page thread, the ones that still take you seriously i mean.
[/quote]

You just have to follow along and laugh…if you take the time to write reasonable responses…you get the ol’ 1-2…

  1. Ignore what was actually written.
  2. Question the reading comprehension of anyone who doesn’t agree with him.
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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]heavythrower wrote:

i guess it is as much as the way you state your points as much as the actual content.[/quote]

Then that also relies on the perspective of the one reading.

Do you ever consider your perspective may be wrong at all?

I don’t see anything written in this whole thread to piss anyone off.

What I do see is many posters literal;ly attacking what I write when I am backing it up.

I have been told that you can increase volume but NOT increase size. That isn’t science.

I am told that fat alone is what causes changes in insulin resistance as if gaining fat at all has a direct relationship with insulin. This is also not science.

Yet people have more of a problem with what I said about HS machines than that? Enough to literally switch around what I actually did say?

We were just told no one on the entire planet has ever gained 80lbs of muscle naturally…but no one has a problem with that? No one asks where they got this info from?[/quote]

i could care less about the specifics of the discussion /debate that led to this great thread, just that you have a way about you that pisses people off, and leads to some very entertaining threads. i dont have a problem with anything you say, i look forward to your next post and threads.

i actually LIKE your underlying message, which to me is makes a lot of sense, that is your dogma of training and eating big, and letting the other stuff sort itself out, not getting drowned in the minutia of diet and the program of the week.

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[quote]heavythrower wrote:

i could care less about the specifics of the discussion /debate that led to this great thread,[/quote]

It shows.

[quote]
just that you have a way about you that pisses people off, and leads to some very entertaining threads. i dont have a problem with anything you say, i look forward to your next post and threads. [/quote]

So…once again, if you ahve no problem with what was said, why are you even bringing it up?

I am responding directly to posters and they side step it when it becomes clear they have no real basis for what they are saying.

I really want to know how someone can say no human has ever gained 80lbs of muscle. I want someone to go through the fine details and make it clear how that makes any sense as a statement and why so many seem to be ok with that.

OK…so why join in with the mob who is literally here to act like I am trolling the forum and shout down my every post?

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

Do you ever consider your perspective may be wrong at all?

oh hell yes! i am sure I am wrong about a lot of things. a lot of the time.

are YOU ever wrong about ANYTHING?

that is the better question.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]browndisaster wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]browndisaster wrote:
I never said that, it makes no sense

bitch[/quote]

you wrote

This means that adding more volume to interstitial tissue space can NOT stretch it at all?[/quote]
ok, one last time, imma go on the record saying:
increasing interstitial space will not stretch the fascial sheets that directly cover muscle tissue

phaggot[/quote]

That doesn’t make sense. How can you add volume but not “increase the size of something”?[/quote]

  1. there is a muscle
  2. over that muscle is a tight sheet of tissue
  3. over that tight sheet of tissue is a lot of other stuff

if that “lot of other stuff gets bigger,” then the underlying tight sheet of tissue is still small.

this is truth. Epistemiology not even once…

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[quote]heavythrower wrote:

oh hell yes! i am sure I am wrong about a lot of things. a lot of the time.

are YOU ever wrong about ANYTHING?

that is the better question. [/quote]

Yep. I make mistakes daily. I don’t ever claim to be right all of the time…but what I do know is I am educated in a field directly related to what we are all interested in…a deeper understanding of the human body.

I am followed around the forum and literally told that I said “x”…when “x” is nothing but that person’s way of twisting the actual message.

You add to that by coming in here and ignoring the discussion but adding to the “x is a troll” nonsense.

This thread was made to aid in understanding…not this same crap.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]heavythrower wrote:

i could care less about the specifics of the discussion /debate that led to this great thread,[/quote]

It shows.

[quote]
just that you have a way about you that pisses people off, and leads to some very entertaining threads. i dont have a problem with anything you say, i look forward to your next post and threads. [/quote]

So…once again, if you ahve no problem with what was said, why are you even bringing it up?

I am responding directly to posters and they side step it when it becomes clear they have no real basis for what they are saying.

I really want to know how someone can say no human has ever gained 80lbs of muscle. I want someone to go through the fine details and make it clear how that makes any sense as a statement and why so many seem to be ok with that.

OK…so why join in with the mob who is literally here to act like I am trolling the forum and shout down my every post?[/quote]

because it is fun, and you have acted like a total dick to so many people so many times, it is fun to see some people finally giving you back some of the shit you have dished out over the years.

just because i think you are right about certain subjects you post about does not mean your not still a total E-dickhead as far as your style and attitude goes.

it is possible to be right about something and still be a horses ass.

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[quote]browndisaster wrote:

  1. there is a muscle
  2. over that muscle is a tight sheet of tissue
  3. over that tight sheet of tissue is a lot of other stuff

if that “lot of other stuff gets bigger,” then the underlying tight sheet of tissue is still small.

this is truth. Epistemiology not even once…
[/quote]

Once again, you gain fat WITHIN that sarcoplasmic sheath around muscle cells.

You would know this if you ever dissected a human body.

I have.

I will wait as you or others complain about me mentioning my education again.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]heavythrower wrote:

oh hell yes! i am sure I am wrong about a lot of things. a lot of the time.

are YOU ever wrong about ANYTHING?

that is the better question. [/quote]

Yep. I make mistakes daily. I don’t ever claim to be right all of the time…but what I do know is I am educated in a field directly related to what we are all interested in…a deeper understanding of the human body.

I am followed around the forum and literally told that I said “x”…when “x” is nothing but that person’s way of twisting the actual message.

You add to that by coming in here and ignoring the discussion but adding to the “x is a troll” nonsense.

This thread was made to aid in understanding…not this same crap.[/quote]

and these threads turn to crap from absolutely NO fault of your own, right? right?

617

question for all:
last time I called X fat he said careful, ppl are most likely strapped. I’m only 15 years old and wut does that mean?

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[quote]heavythrower wrote:

because it is fun, and you have acted like a total dick to so many people so many times, it is fun to see some people finally giving you back some of the shit you have dished out over the years.

just because i think you are right about certain subjects you post about does not mean your not still a total E-dickhead as far as your style and attitude goes.

it is possible to be right about something and still be a horses ass. [/quote]

So…you are acting like an ass here.

Ok…got it.

So far, we have learned that Brick can cuss people out and that is ok…and you can troll a thread and no one has an issue with it.

Could you explain why it is ok for people like you to act like that at all if people have such a problem with the act itself?

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]heavythrower wrote:

oh hell yes! i am sure I am wrong about a lot of things. a lot of the time.

are YOU ever wrong about ANYTHING?

that is the better question. [/quote]

Yep. I make mistakes daily. I don’t ever claim to be right all of the time…but what I do know is I am educated in a field directly related to what we are all interested in…a deeper understanding of the human body.

I am followed around the forum and literally told that I said “x”…when “x” is nothing but that person’s way of twisting the actual message.

You add to that by coming in here and ignoring the discussion but adding to the “x is a troll” nonsense.

This thread was made to aid in understanding…not this same crap.[/quote]

oh, and btw, i do not need to add to the “X is a troll” nonsense, you prove those guys right every time you strictly and consistently follow the numbered rules of how professor x argues they posted a while back. sorry dude, truth hurts sometimes.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]heavythrower wrote:

because it is fun, and you have acted like a total dick to so many people so many times, it is fun to see some people finally giving you back some of the shit you have dished out over the years.

just because i think you are right about certain subjects you post about does not mean your not still a total E-dickhead as far as your style and attitude goes.

it is possible to be right about something and still be a horses ass. [/quote]

So…you are acting like an ass here.

Ok…got it.

So far, we have learned that Brick can cuss people out and that is ok…and you can troll a thread and no one has an issue with it.

Could you explain why it is ok for people like you to act like that at all if people have such a problem with the act itself?
[/quote]

??? i dont have a problem with this thread or anything in it. i love this thread. what are you babbling about now?
and…i DONT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH YOUR POSTS!!! I love your threads.