[quote]marshaldteach wrote:
i don’t know how you would figure out how to build muscle and no bodyfat at all… you’d be cutting it very close if you were doing that
i don’t think there is anything sloppy or reckless about gaining .5-1 lb a week if it offers consistent gains on your lifts
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Right. Apparently you didn’t read my post in which I recognize that some fat gain occurs when “bulking”.
I guess we see eye-to-eye on some things.
Here’s an example of someone who built 80 to 100 pounds of muscle.
It only took a GRAM of testosterone per week and other drugs (by his own account), one-in-a-million genetics, a Spartan lifestyle, and brains!
Let me know if anyone on this board has duplicated this result naturally.
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
Here’s an example of someone who built 80 to 100 pounds of muscle.
It only took a GRAM of testosterone per week and other drugs (by his own account), one-in-a-million genetics, a Spartan lifestyle, and brains!
Let me know if anyone on this board have duplicated this result naturally. [/quote]
more like 6-8g of test a week c’mon man. This is Dorian we are talking about.
his main competition Nasser said he himself was never on less than 3-5g test at any point ever and often up to 10 (TEN!!!) grams just of test a week (alongside 20 IU pharm grade GH and a fucking TON of other drugs). He was once asked how much drugs he had taken and said you could fill this entire restaurant and we would be feet deep in syringes.
(ive added that as you may not have heard it and might find it of interest, not to argue)
what an insane picture.
Another example, who took more than his fair share of drugs.
Maybe people can actually THINK of what someone who gained 80 to 100 pounds of mostly muscle or 30 inch thighs look like.
again, depends on starting weight, height, etc.
yates is like 290 in that photo?
Technically, I think Yates’ heaviest contest weight was 270 (269 to be precise), but get a good look of what that much muscle truly looks like on a 5’10 man.
S
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Mtag666 wrote:
Lunge jokes aside, I’m supposed to believe you can deadlift significantly more than that when you looked like you were going to die during the sets?[/quote]
You are supposed to be mature enough to understand that it doesn’t matter how strong you are, if you haven’t done an exercise at all in over ten years, you will NOT be using the most weight during your very first attempt at it again…which is what you saw on film.
You can bet I was moving more weight within the week after adding it back in until the motorcycle accident.
My conditioning was very poor when I went to CO. That is why I do way more conditioning work now. Again, the delusion seems to lie elsewhere.[/quote]
So how do you explain struggling with a band assisted 3 plate bench, but repping 4 plate hammer strength bench and literally claiming the difference between the 2 movements is only 4-5 lbs?
[quote]marshaldteach wrote:
130 at 20% bodyfat to 250 at 20% bodyfat
104 to 200 lean
or are you saying it’s impossible to do that?
even if you say 30%, you’d still be a bit over 50 (close to 70)
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what the fuck
someone either 130 20%BF or 30%BF would have to be VERY short do you realise that?
to be 130lbs at 30% you’d probably have to be under 5ft tall
so NO this person could not then transform to 250lbs
think about what you are saying it makes no fucking sense this individual could not exist
[quote]browndisaster wrote:
brb here’s my monthly front double hunch pose, as always I’ve lost 10 lbs since then and am bigger
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LOLOLOLOL
In this thread I learned Thibs is able to assess X’s BF in CO by looking at his arms, but we certainly can’t say CT Fletcher is sub-10% from looking at his.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Mtag666 wrote:
Lunge jokes aside, I’m supposed to believe you can deadlift significantly more than that when you looked like you were going to die during the sets?[/quote]
You are supposed to be mature enough to understand that it doesn’t matter how strong you are, if you haven’t done an exercise at all in over ten years, you will NOT be using the most weight during your very first attempt at it again…which is what you saw on film.
You can bet I was moving more weight within the week after adding it back in until the motorcycle accident.
My conditioning was very poor when I went to CO. That is why I do way more conditioning work now. Again, the delusion seems to lie elsewhere.[/quote]
So how do you explain struggling with a band assisted 3 plate bench, but repping 4 plate hammer strength bench and literally claiming the difference between the 2 movements is only 4-5 lbs?
[/quote]
Oh god let’s not go down the hammer strength arguement again. haha
[quote]Mtag666 wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Mtag666 wrote:
Lunge jokes aside, I’m supposed to believe you can deadlift significantly more than that when you looked like you were going to die during the sets?[/quote]
You are supposed to be mature enough to understand that it doesn’t matter how strong you are, if you haven’t done an exercise at all in over ten years, you will NOT be using the most weight during your very first attempt at it again…which is what you saw on film.
You can bet I was moving more weight within the week after adding it back in until the motorcycle accident.
My conditioning was very poor when I went to CO. That is why I do way more conditioning work now. Again, the delusion seems to lie elsewhere.[/quote]
So how do you explain struggling with a band assisted 3 plate bench, but repping 4 plate hammer strength bench and literally claiming the difference between the 2 movements is only 4-5 lbs?
[/quote]
Oh god let’s not go down the hammer strength arguement again. haha
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I missed that one. What happened with HS machines?
[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
In this thread I learned Thibs is able to assess X’s BF in CO by looking at his arms, but we certainly can’t say CT Fletcher is sub-10% from looking at his.[/quote]
Shhhh dont rouse Yolo FFS
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]Mtag666 wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Mtag666 wrote:
Lunge jokes aside, I’m supposed to believe you can deadlift significantly more than that when you looked like you were going to die during the sets?[/quote]
You are supposed to be mature enough to understand that it doesn’t matter how strong you are, if you haven’t done an exercise at all in over ten years, you will NOT be using the most weight during your very first attempt at it again…which is what you saw on film.
You can bet I was moving more weight within the week after adding it back in until the motorcycle accident.
My conditioning was very poor when I went to CO. That is why I do way more conditioning work now. Again, the delusion seems to lie elsewhere.[/quote]
So how do you explain struggling with a band assisted 3 plate bench, but repping 4 plate hammer strength bench and literally claiming the difference between the 2 movements is only 4-5 lbs?
[/quote]
Oh god let’s not go down the hammer strength arguement again. haha
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I missed that one. What happened with HS machines?
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Hammer strength machines correlate almost exactly (within 10-20 pounds) of barbell work. So if you can hammer strength ~405 then you can bench 405.
Of course if you can’t do that within two years of training you just aren’t cut out for this.
[quote]Mtag666 wrote:
Hammer strength machines correlate almost exactly (within 10-20 pounds) of barbell work. So if you can hammer strength ~405 then you can bench 405.
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woah I’m not so sure about that. I am MUCH stronger on HS machines than I am with a barbell. I thought everyone was? Maybe I’m just weird
[quote]Mtag666 wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]Mtag666 wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Mtag666 wrote:
Lunge jokes aside, I’m supposed to believe you can deadlift significantly more than that when you looked like you were going to die during the sets?[/quote]
You are supposed to be mature enough to understand that it doesn’t matter how strong you are, if you haven’t done an exercise at all in over ten years, you will NOT be using the most weight during your very first attempt at it again…which is what you saw on film.
You can bet I was moving more weight within the week after adding it back in until the motorcycle accident.
My conditioning was very poor when I went to CO. That is why I do way more conditioning work now. Again, the delusion seems to lie elsewhere.[/quote]
So how do you explain struggling with a band assisted 3 plate bench, but repping 4 plate hammer strength bench and literally claiming the difference between the 2 movements is only 4-5 lbs?
[/quote]
Oh god let’s not go down the hammer strength arguement again. haha
[/quote]
I missed that one. What happened with HS machines?
[/quote]
Hammer strength machines correlate almost exactly (within 10-20 pounds) of barbell work. So if you can hammer strength ~405 then you can bench 405.
Of course if you can’t do that within two years of training you just aren’t cut out for this.
[/quote]
Christ!
I actually think X could put up some very impressive numbers if he were to revamp his training, particularly lower body training, and his physique would improve greatly too. Not to discredit what he has done so far because he has added a lot of upper body size, but some changes would make his whole body improve.
[quote]rds63799 wrote:
[quote]Mtag666 wrote:
Hammer strength machines correlate almost exactly (within 10-20 pounds) of barbell work. So if you can hammer strength ~405 then you can bench 405.
[/quote]
woah I’m not so sure about that. I am MUCH stronger on HS machines than I am with a barbell. I thought everyone was? Maybe I’m just weird[/quote]
I was being sarcastic as that’s the arguement X was making in that thread.
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]Mtag666 wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]Mtag666 wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Mtag666 wrote:
Lunge jokes aside, I’m supposed to believe you can deadlift significantly more than that when you looked like you were going to die during the sets?[/quote]
You are supposed to be mature enough to understand that it doesn’t matter how strong you are, if you haven’t done an exercise at all in over ten years, you will NOT be using the most weight during your very first attempt at it again…which is what you saw on film.
You can bet I was moving more weight within the week after adding it back in until the motorcycle accident.
My conditioning was very poor when I went to CO. That is why I do way more conditioning work now. Again, the delusion seems to lie elsewhere.[/quote]
So how do you explain struggling with a band assisted 3 plate bench, but repping 4 plate hammer strength bench and literally claiming the difference between the 2 movements is only 4-5 lbs?
[/quote]
Oh god let’s not go down the hammer strength arguement again. haha
[/quote]
I missed that one. What happened with HS machines?
[/quote]
Hammer strength machines correlate almost exactly (within 10-20 pounds) of barbell work. So if you can hammer strength ~405 then you can bench 405.
Of course if you can’t do that within two years of training you just aren’t cut out for this.
[/quote]
Christ!
I actually think X could put up some very impressive numbers if he were to revamp his training, particularly lower body training, and his physique would improve greatly too. Not to discredit what he has done so far because he has added a lot of upper body size, but some changes would make his whole body improve.
[/quote]
Yea I agree completely.
[quote]rds63799 wrote:
[quote]Mtag666 wrote:
Hammer strength machines correlate almost exactly (within 10-20 pounds) of barbell work. So if you can hammer strength ~405 then you can bench 405.
[/quote]
woah I’m not so sure about that. I am MUCH stronger on HS machines than I am with a barbell. I thought everyone was? Maybe I’m just weird[/quote]
Hmmm agree with you totally there rds I am much stronger on HS than barbell seems we are both weird
[quote]steven alex wrote:
[quote]rds63799 wrote:
[quote]Mtag666 wrote:
Hammer strength machines correlate almost exactly (within 10-20 pounds) of barbell work. So if you can hammer strength ~405 then you can bench 405.
[/quote]
woah I’m not so sure about that. I am MUCH stronger on HS machines than I am with a barbell. I thought everyone was? Maybe I’m just weird[/quote]
Hmmm agree with you totally there rds I am much stronger on HS than barbell seems we are both weird[/quote]
Sarcasm, X’s position in that thread was HS machines=barbell
