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Nope. There’s still the matter of a response to Stu.
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[quote]setto222 wrote:
-I 100% agree with you that adding a bit of fat while adding muscle is a very productive and somewhat simpler/fool proof way to add strength and size to a subject.
-I agree that if gaining all-out size is the main goal of a subject who doesn’t have interest in current trends in fitness or body-image then adding a bit of fat in a health controlled manner is not only acceptable but recommended. [/quote]
But, I don’t even agree completely with what you wrote here. You make it seem like someone who understands some fat may be gained has no interest in body image. “Body image” is SUBJECTIVE. We see it all of the time here. Guys who are super skinny and think they are really big.
Bodybuilding is all about body image…and the goals of the individual with that image.
It is simply understood that in interest of the long term goal, you don’t always get there looking like a fitness model the whole way without short changing your overall gains.
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x2 amazing, Steely
[quote]Blaze_108 wrote:
You don’t have visible abs. You advocate gaining weight like you did, and you’re, by your own words, leaner now than you were then. While arguably not “abs be damned”, it’s at least “who cares about abs” since you haven’t had yours visible in who knows how long.[/quote]
I dunno man I still don’t think he’s that fat.
http://tnation.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_body_bigger_stronger_leaner/full_house_?id=5574271&pageNo=20#bottom
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]setto222 wrote:
-I 100% agree with you that adding a bit of fat while adding muscle is a very productive and somewhat simpler/fool proof way to add strength and size to a subject.
-I agree that if gaining all-out size is the main goal of a subject who doesn’t have interest in current trends in fitness or body-image then adding a bit of fat in a health controlled manner is not only acceptable but recommended. [/quote]
But, I don’t even agree completely with what you wrote here. You make it seem like someone who understands some fat may be gained has no interest in body image. “Body image” is SUBJECTIVE. We see it all of the time here. Guys who are super skinny and think they are really big.
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…and guys who are carrying way more fat than they’ll admit thinking they’re the T-Nation swole patrol…
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[quote]Blaze_108 wrote:
You don’t have visible abs. You advocate gaining weight like you did, and you’re, by your own words, leaner now than you were then. While arguably not “abs be damned”, it’s at least “who cares about abs” since you haven’t had yours visible in who knows how long.[/quote]
I dunno man I still don’t think he’s that fat.
http://tnation.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_body_bigger_stronger_leaner/full_house_?id=5574271&pageNo=20#bottom[/quote]
Apparently that is “who cares about abs” shape.
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You don’t have visible abs. You advocate gaining weight like you did, and you’re, by your own words, leaner now than you were then. While arguably not “abs be damned”, it’s at least “who cares about abs” since you haven’t had yours visible in who knows how long.[/quote]
It doesn’t make much sense to argue against people like you. You see what you want.
I tend to call that kind of conditioning “abs coming in”…but if I look like “who cares about abs” to you, something is flatly wrong with your perception
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[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]setto222 wrote:
-I 100% agree with you that adding a bit of fat while adding muscle is a very productive and somewhat simpler/fool proof way to add strength and size to a subject.
-I agree that if gaining all-out size is the main goal of a subject who doesn’t have interest in current trends in fitness or body-image then adding a bit of fat in a health controlled manner is not only acceptable but recommended. [/quote]
But, I don’t even agree completely with what you wrote here. You make it seem like someone who understands some fat may be gained has no interest in body image. “Body image” is SUBJECTIVE. We see it all of the time here. Guys who are super skinny and think they are really big.
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I’m carrying more fat than I am willing to admit?
Is this all you have to offer? My pic is right there. What fat am I not willing to admit?
According to Brick that is “25% body fat”.
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[quote]heavythrower wrote:
even though i tend to agree with not worrying about your hawt abdz so much when you are trying to get bigger and stronger, especially if you are a “skinnier” bodytype,
i feel that some people will end up looking like me when i was a young guy than the “full house” look X is talking about if they eat to excess like I did.
i seriously doubt most people here would want that. [/quote]
Hmm…
Would I get your strength levels as well? Because if so I would make that deal in a heartbeat. Magically 260 and way stronger. All I’d have to do is diet down hardcore; pretty sure I’d still be a lot stronger afterwards.[/quote]
fair enough. to each his own, it served the purpose i was looking for, which was to make those little steel balls go a few inches farther each day. depends on the persons goals and comfort level with themselves.
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[quote]setto222 wrote:
-I 100% agree with you that adding a bit of fat while adding muscle is a very productive and somewhat simpler/fool proof way to add strength and size to a subject.
-I agree that if gaining all-out size is the main goal of a subject who doesn’t have interest in current trends in fitness or body-image then adding a bit of fat in a health controlled manner is not only acceptable but recommended. [/quote]
But, I don’t even agree completely with what you wrote here. You make it seem like someone who understands some fat may be gained has no interest in body image. “Body image” is SUBJECTIVE. We see it all of the time here. Guys who are super skinny and think they are really big.
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I’m carrying more fat than I am willing to admit?
Is this all you have to offer? My pic is right there. What fat am I not willing to admit?
According to Brick that is “25% body fat”.[/quote]
You like saying that, he said you were 25%+ when you were 300lbs.
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[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]heavythrower wrote:
even though i tend to agree with not worrying about your hawt abdz so much when you are trying to get bigger and stronger, especially if you are a “skinnier” bodytype,
i feel that some people will end up looking like me when i was a young guy than the “full house” look X is talking about if they eat to excess like I did.
i seriously doubt most people here would want that. [/quote]
Hmm…
Would I get your strength levels as well? Because if so I would make that deal in a heartbeat. Magically 260 and way stronger. All I’d have to do is diet down hardcore; pretty sure I’d still be a lot stronger afterwards.[/quote]
fair enough. to each his own, it served the purpose i was looking for, which was to make those little steel balls go a few inches farther each day. depends on the persons goals and comfort level with themselves. [/quote]
Which is all I have written.
It served a purpose…by helping you get big and strong enough to handle the kind of weight that allows you to look like now even after losing some weight.
It isn’t that anyone has a goal of looking like you at your heaviest. It is about understanding that for SOME people, it takes not looking ideal to reach the overall end goal especially if your goal is extreme on the level of your size or bigger.
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[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]setto222 wrote:
-I 100% agree with you that adding a bit of fat while adding muscle is a very productive and somewhat simpler/fool proof way to add strength and size to a subject.
-I agree that if gaining all-out size is the main goal of a subject who doesn’t have interest in current trends in fitness or body-image then adding a bit of fat in a health controlled manner is not only acceptable but recommended. [/quote]
But, I don’t even agree completely with what you wrote here. You make it seem like someone who understands some fat may be gained has no interest in body image. “Body image” is SUBJECTIVE. We see it all of the time here. Guys who are super skinny and think they are really big.
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I’m carrying more fat than I am willing to admit?
Is this all you have to offer? My pic is right there. What fat am I not willing to admit?
According to Brick that is “25% body fat”.[/quote]
I have no idea what your true bf% is, but his guess is probably pretty accurate. You have your shorts under your shorts hiked up to blunt the visual impact of your love handles, there’s very little definition to be seen anywhere, and your face literally has fat hanging off of it. Look at your cheeks and eyelids. You’ve obviously got mass on you, but you are also carrying a lot of fat on you too.
LOL at even insinuating that pic illustrates how you’ve looked all along.
Already admitted to leaning out RECENTLY, so you didn’t look like that even months before the pic was taken. Already admitted to being close to 300 at one time (where’s the pic at 300 at the same leanness?). Already admitted to carrying extra weight to push a “set point”.
Post recent pic after leaning out as if that’s the way you’ve been GAINING all these years.
in b4 I didn’t say that. Wasn’t said, but it’s damn sure insinuated and disingenuous.
I don’t give a fuck what you do or how you do it, but acting as if that’s the way you always roll is hilarious.
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You like saying that, he said you were 25%+ when you were 300lbs.
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I actually never said what my bf% was at 300lbs. Please quote where I wrote that or refrain from making things up.
Beyond that, no one is telling people to get as heavy as I did…so what is your goal with this?
All the pics shown are way more recent than when I weighed that much in the military over 5 years ago…so why act like that was the end goal?
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LOL at even insinuating that pic illustrates how you’ve looked all along.
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Wait…so when Colucci wrote that with extreme goals, it is understood you may not look ideal the whole way through…why didn’t you raise an issue with it?