biggest scam ever? WHITE JESUS!
FIGHT THE POWER!
[quote]artw wrote:
John S. wrote:
jasmincar wrote:
I don’t get it when someone is saying global warming is a scam. Think about it one second: why would someone want to make you believe in global warming? What does it makes people buy? But I can understand someone wanting to make you think it doesnt exist.
It is a fact.
It is the greatest scam ever.
If I have you believing in man made global warming I can get you to buy anything. All I have to do is slap an energy saver, or eco friendly logo on an item and all of a sudden you have to replace all your shit with new more eco friendly stuff.
Check out the latest EPA report, this is the greatest scam in the history of America.
Think about this though: if global warming is a scam that we just bought into, what are the consequences compared to the consequences if global warming is real and we ignore it? There are a lot of studies supporting both sides of the argument, but the consequences of being wrong are either we lose a bunch of money because we erred on the side of caution, or the fucking Gulf Stream shifts and we’re all under water because we didn’t believe a ton of the top scientists in the world when they said we’d better be careful. I’ll err on the side of caution any day, given the other possibility.
No you just got plain old duped. They should have held off on THE SKY IS FALLING WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE till we got all the facts. It made a lot of people rich, let this just be a “teaching moment”.
Trust but verify. We couldn’t verify it till now, so they jumped way to early.
Getting an MBA just out of college is not the way to go. You will not get nearly as much out of it as you would if you spent five plus years out in the business world. I went back and got my MBA fifteen years after college. There were several fresh college graduates in my program as well. They were smart and eager. They were loaded with conceptual knowledge. What they lacked was experiential knowledge.
I have never gone sky diving. I can imagine what it might be like. I can watch films, read books, talk to those who have. I can study it and visualize to my hearts content. I can guarantee you one thing though. There is nothing I can do that would compare or prepare me for the experience of standing in a plane door, wind in my face and launching myself out into space into a free fall.
Myself and those who had been out in the world had conceptual hooks on which to hang the knowledge we were gaining in grad school. “Oh yeah. I could use then to better accomplish …” Once presented, we owned the knowledge and information. Our younger friends did not have this advantage.
Another thing. It will likely take you years after college to really find what juices you and makes you want to jump out of bed in the morning. You have no idea where that might lead and an MBA may just be $25,000.00 or more debt burden that acts like an anchor on your ass, keeping you from what really drives you.
For now, be the best friggin warehouse worker or whatever else you can be. There is something to be learned in every capacity. You will never be recognized and given the opportunity to do big stuff until you master the mundane. I look for people who do such things well. It shows a level of self control and self respect that is teachable and trainable.
Just one old man’s opinion.
[quote]jasmincar wrote:
I don’t get it when someone is saying global warming is a scam. Think about it one second: why would someone want to make you believe in global warming? [/quote]
Al Gore sure made some bank off making the world believe in global warming. People should know he is the guy who gets the majority of the money on the carbon credit scam. Basically Al Gore is the biggest scam of the 21st century and Obama.
Fitness equipment… I should know I sold it for 6 years. All the average bear needs is barbells, dumbells, cage and a bench; maybe some basic cable like high/low row. Home gyms are absolute garbage!
Some good replies here. I agree on seeking jobs in other occupations, I’m going to put more effort towards that.
I want to own a business, or something like that. I have lots of ideas, but little technical knowledge or resources to make them a feasible reality.
The world banking system: THAT ends this thread. Case closed.
Religion … NOTHING has killed more people/caused so much trouble, pain, etc…
[quote]JEATON wrote:
Getting an MBA just out of college is not the way to go. You will not get nearly as much out of it as you would if you spent five plus years out in the business world. I went back and got my MBA fifteen years after college. There were several fresh college graduates in my program as well. They were smart and eager. They were loaded with conceptual knowledge. What they lacked was experiential knowledge.
I have never gone sky diving. I can imagine what it might be like. I can watch films, read books, talk to those who have. I can study it and visualize to my hearts content. I can guarantee you one thing though. There is nothing I can do that would compare or prepare me for the experience of standing in a plane door, wind in my face and launching myself out into space into a free fall.
Myself and those who had been out in the world had conceptual hooks on which to hang the knowledge we were gaining in grad school. “Oh yeah. I could use then to better accomplish …” Once presented, we owned the knowledge and information. Our younger friends did not have this advantage.
Another thing. It will likely take you years after college to really find what juices you and makes you want to jump out of bed in the morning. You have no idea where that might lead and an MBA may just be $25,000.00 or more debt burden that acts like an anchor on your ass, keeping you from what really drives you.
For now, be the best friggin warehouse worker or whatever else you can be. There is something to be learned in every capacity. You will never be recognized and given the opportunity to do big stuff until you master the mundane. I look for people who do such things well. It shows a level of self control and self respect that is teachable and trainable.
Just one old man’s opinion.
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Posts like this confuse the shit out of me. I thought I had everything settled. Get my bachelors of business admin, spend a few years of work experience, and then get the MBA.
But thats a bad idea? I will end up in a disadvantageous position? I will be running before I can walk? Life sucks.
[quote]JEATON wrote:
Getting an MBA just out of college is not the way to go. You will not get nearly as much out of it as you would if you spent five plus years out in the business world. I went back and got my MBA fifteen years after college. There were several fresh college graduates in my program as well. They were smart and eager. They were loaded with conceptual knowledge. What they lacked was experiential knowledge.
I have never gone sky diving. I can imagine what it might be like. I can watch films, read books, talk to those who have. I can study it and visualize to my hearts content. I can guarantee you one thing though. There is nothing I can do that would compare or prepare me for the experience of standing in a plane door, wind in my face and launching myself out into space into a free fall.
Myself and those who had been out in the world had conceptual hooks on which to hang the knowledge we were gaining in grad school. “Oh yeah. I could use then to better accomplish …” Once presented, we owned the knowledge and information. Our younger friends did not have this advantage.
Another thing. It will likely take you years after college to really find what juices you and makes you want to jump out of bed in the morning. You have no idea where that might lead and an MBA may just be $25,000.00 or more debt burden that acts like an anchor on your ass, keeping you from what really drives you.
For now, be the best friggin warehouse worker or whatever else you can be. There is something to be learned in every capacity. You will never be recognized and given the opportunity to do big stuff until you master the mundane. I look for people who do such things well. It shows a level of self control and self respect that is teachable and trainable.
Just one old man’s opinion.
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Best post here. You should post more, many others should post less.
[quote]Der Candy wrote:
JEATON wrote:
Getting an MBA just out of college is not the way to go. You will not get nearly as much out of it as you would if you spent five plus years out in the business world. I went back and got my MBA fifteen years after college. There were several fresh college graduates in my program as well. They were smart and eager. They were loaded with conceptual knowledge. What they lacked was experiential knowledge.
I have never gone sky diving. I can imagine what it might be like. I can watch films, read books, talk to those who have. I can study it and visualize to my hearts content. I can guarantee you one thing though. There is nothing I can do that would compare or prepare me for the experience of standing in a plane door, wind in my face and launching myself out into space into a free fall.
Myself and those who had been out in the world had conceptual hooks on which to hang the knowledge we were gaining in grad school. “Oh yeah. I could use then to better accomplish …” Once presented, we owned the knowledge and information. Our younger friends did not have this advantage.
Another thing. It will likely take you years after college to really find what juices you and makes you want to jump out of bed in the morning. You have no idea where that might lead and an MBA may just be $25,000.00 or more debt burden that acts like an anchor on your ass, keeping you from what really drives you.
For now, be the best friggin warehouse worker or whatever else you can be. There is something to be learned in every capacity. You will never be recognized and given the opportunity to do big stuff until you master the mundane. I look for people who do such things well. It shows a level of self control and self respect that is teachable and trainable.
Just one old man’s opinion.
Posts like this confuse the shit out of me. I thought I had everything settled. Get my bachelors of business admin, spend a few years of work experience, and then get the MBA.
But thats a bad idea? I will end up in a disadvantageous position? I will be running before I can walk? Life sucks.
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What’s confusing? That’s exactly what he said, get your Bachelors, get some experience, then get your Masters. I don’t think he’s saying you have to wait fifteen years.
I work with many Engineers who are clearly very book smart, yet you can’t tell them anything, and they can barely tie their shoes if it’s not presented in a formula.
[quote]Carlitosway wrote:
SickAbs wrote:
major league baseball and steroid abuse… for the record i dont give a fuck if u guys use them (i was actually thinking of running a cycle once or twice), but it shouldnt be allowed in sports
They might as well let every player have a choice in doing it. Which would never happen. Yet that seems to be the only fair solution.
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Everytime I think I’m out I get pulled back in. OK I agree. If you do not see a problem with people using Steroids then the PRO’s should have every right to use them. But we will pretend like no one is using them and beat up the guys that get caught.
[quote]Kilosprinter2 wrote:
My vote goes to “college.” How many college grads have their bachelors degree in hand and can’t get any job that requires the mental capacity greater than that of a monkey? A bet a whole crapload. I thought a BS in a business concentration (finance) would be one of the most marketable degrees.
Yeah I’m bitter. I’m thinking of how else I’m going to support myself and not go mentally insane as I work in a warehouse picking up boxes.[/quote]
You could do what someone else has done…
(A link to a news article about a college graduate suing her college because she cant find a job)
…and you just gotta love the student loans you’ll be paying off forever with that lovely degree…that’s what i love the most.
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
Der Candy wrote:
JEATON wrote:
Getting an MBA just out of college is not the way to go. You will not get nearly as much out of it as you would if you spent five plus years out in the business world. I went back and got my MBA fifteen years after college. There were several fresh college graduates in my program as well. They were smart and eager. They were loaded with conceptual knowledge. What they lacked was experiential knowledge.
I have never gone sky diving. I can imagine what it might be like. I can watch films, read books, talk to those who have. I can study it and visualize to my hearts content. I can guarantee you one thing though. There is nothing I can do that would compare or prepare me for the experience of standing in a plane door, wind in my face and launching myself out into space into a free fall.
Myself and those who had been out in the world had conceptual hooks on which to hang the knowledge we were gaining in grad school. “Oh yeah. I could use then to better accomplish …” Once presented, we owned the knowledge and information. Our younger friends did not have this advantage.
Another thing. It will likely take you years after college to really find what juices you and makes you want to jump out of bed in the morning. You have no idea where that might lead and an MBA may just be $25,000.00 or more debt burden that acts like an anchor on your ass, keeping you from what really drives you.
For now, be the best friggin warehouse worker or whatever else you can be. There is something to be learned in every capacity. You will never be recognized and given the opportunity to do big stuff until you master the mundane. I look for people who do such things well. It shows a level of self control and self respect that is teachable and trainable.
Just one old man’s opinion.
Posts like this confuse the shit out of me. I thought I had everything settled. Get my bachelors of business admin, spend a few years of work experience, and then get the MBA.
But thats a bad idea? I will end up in a disadvantageous position? I will be running before I can walk? Life sucks.
What’s confusing? That’s exactly what he said, get your Bachelors, get some experience, then get your Masters. I don’t think he’s saying you have to wait fifteen years.
I work with many Engineers who are clearly very book smart, yet you can’t tell them anything, and they can barely tie their shoes if it’s not presented in a formula.
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The MBA is devalued in today’s market anyway.
If someone has a finance undergrad, working in a warehouse and NOT taking MBA classes is the DUMBEST FUCKING IDEA EVER if he wants to get a job in FINANCE when the market turns around. While JEATON’s post is very valid in a normal job market, in a market like today where you can’t get experience, it would be foolish to have a gap in your resume that says “Shelf Stocker.”
We look at things like employment history when we hire people, I can only imagine finance people do the same. Not showing any drive or determination in that field, by not going to school and being content in an unrelated job, isn’t going to go over well in the interview.
And Engineers are not comparable to management/accounting, although most engineers believe they can do the other two functions better. Two different breads of people.
You should be getting your MBA within 3 years of employment. If your field needs any licenses or certification, you should be working on that within 18 months of employment.
The “wait it out man” advice is for people who’s career path is flat. The “get shit done” advice is for people who’s career path is a bit more vertical.
Telling someone to not go to school and be happy in a warehouse, wasting their undergrad, is fucking dumb shit advice.
Oil.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Testy1 wrote:
Der Candy wrote:
JEATON wrote:
Getting an MBA just out of college is not the way to go. You will not get nearly as much out of it as you would if you spent five plus years out in the business world. I went back and got my MBA fifteen years after college. There were several fresh college graduates in my program as well. They were smart and eager. They were loaded with conceptual knowledge. What they lacked was experiential knowledge.
I have never gone sky diving. I can imagine what it might be like. I can watch films, read books, talk to those who have. I can study it and visualize to my hearts content. I can guarantee you one thing though. There is nothing I can do that would compare or prepare me for the experience of standing in a plane door, wind in my face and launching myself out into space into a free fall.
Myself and those who had been out in the world had conceptual hooks on which to hang the knowledge we were gaining in grad school. “Oh yeah. I could use then to better accomplish …” Once presented, we owned the knowledge and information. Our younger friends did not have this advantage.
Another thing. It will likely take you years after college to really find what juices you and makes you want to jump out of bed in the morning. You have no idea where that might lead and an MBA may just be $25,000.00 or more debt burden that acts like an anchor on your ass, keeping you from what really drives you.
For now, be the best friggin warehouse worker or whatever else you can be. There is something to be learned in every capacity. You will never be recognized and given the opportunity to do big stuff until you master the mundane. I look for people who do such things well. It shows a level of self control and self respect that is teachable and trainable.
Just one old man’s opinion.
Posts like this confuse the shit out of me. I thought I had everything settled. Get my bachelors of business admin, spend a few years of work experience, and then get the MBA.
But thats a bad idea? I will end up in a disadvantageous position? I will be running before I can walk? Life sucks.
What’s confusing? That’s exactly what he said, get your Bachelors, get some experience, then get your Masters. I don’t think he’s saying you have to wait fifteen years.
I work with many Engineers who are clearly very book smart, yet you can’t tell them anything, and they can barely tie their shoes if it’s not presented in a formula.
The MBA is devalued in today’s market anyway.
If someone has a finance undergrad, working in a warehouse and NOT taking MBA classes is the DUMBEST FUCKING IDEA EVER if he wants to get a job in FINANCE when the market turns around. While JEATON’s post is very valid in a normal job market, in a market like today where you can’t get experience, it would be foolish to have a gap in your resume that says “Shelf Stocker.”
We look at things like employment history when we hire people, I can only imagine finance people do the same. Not showing any drive or determination in that field, by not going to school and being content in an unrelated job, isn’t going to go over well in the interview.
And Engineers are not comparable to management/accounting, although most engineers believe they can do the other two functions better. Two different breads of people.
You should be getting your MBA within 3 years of employment. If your field needs any licenses or certification, you should be working on that within 18 months of employment.
The “wait it out man” advice is for people who’s career path is flat. The “get shit done” advice is for people who’s career path is a bit more vertical.
Telling someone to not go to school and be happy in a warehouse, wasting their undergrad, is fucking dumb shit advice.[/quote]
I don’t believe he was saying don’t go back to school, just don’t go straight from undergrad to grad school.
As far as employment history, if you can’t factor in that thousands of people were losing their jobs during a period when someone wasn’t “chasing the dream”, then you most likely shouldn’t be in charge of hiring.
[quote]brute_fury wrote:
…and you just gotta love the student loans you’ll be paying off forever with that lovely degree…that’s what i love the most.[/quote]
join the military, they pay for you schooling, I’m half way done with my Bachelors in Economics and haven’t paid a dime. I still have my full GI Bill benefits so it’s looking like I won’t have to pay anything (except the 6 yrs of my life, but I gained a lot of experience that actual employers line up for but that’s another whole can of worms).
Look, if you feel like you’re being scammed out of money for an education guess what, there are plenty of ways around that. Stop your belly aching about paying for college, man up and get creative. Learn to make sacrifices; you’re going to have to if you want to succeed. No one is going to line up at your door to hand you a fucking 6 figure salary, you have to hunt that shit down with a vigor.
Culture is easily the biggest scam of human history, leading all the way up to the 21st century with the culmination of religion, patriotism, sub-cultural value systems, diet, judicial law, popular media, etc.etc.etc. the list goes on, and it affects things as large as the geography of entire continents spanning the globe, and things as small as the first words of every single child.
Culture is the reason we all play to win in a zero sum game.
If you don’t know what I’m talking about, it means you’re being scammed, but it also means that you’re normal.
But besides that, I’d have to say cell phones and all forms of portable handheld technology are a catastrophic scam of the 21st century. Not because they don’t do what you’re told they do, but because they can do so much more than what you’re told they can in terms of personal information trafficking.
Biggest scam of the century: Entitlement
[quote]Kilosprinter2 wrote:
\I thought a BS in a business concentration (finance) would be one of the most marketable degrees.
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well, no offense but why did you think the most generic of generic degree’s would get you a job easier?? I honestly can not think of a college that doesnt offer a bussiness degree… When you were there, what internships did you go after? what societies did you join? what co-ops did you take??
No one I know who really applied themselves and got into the field they loved had trouble getting a job, that said the economy made it harder, but those really great candidates for a position still dont have a problem…