I think functional bodyweight correlates directly with how prepared you are for a zombie apocalypse. So ask your self are you in the ideal condition for Z-day?
[quote]hachi wrote:
I think functional bodyweight correlates directly with how prepared you are for a zombie apocalypse. So ask your self are you in the ideal condition for Z-day?[/quote]
Have you read World War Z?
no, i need to though just watched zombieland and can’t think about anything else. is that book any good. I’m so excited for z-day
[quote]hachi wrote:
no, i need to though just watched zombieland and can’t think about anything else. is that book any good. I’m so excited for z-day[/quote]
it’s the shit brah, goes hand in hand with the zombie survival guide.
I prefer to think of this age old question in terms of “pit weight”. Pit weight is that weight where you are carrying neither excess fat nor excess muscle…it’s the intersection of your best cardio health and the strongest you can be at that fitness level. It’s probably the kind of shape you’d want to be in if you had to fight for your life. Yeah, okay, Marius is “functional”, I get that…but the likes of Marius would have no place on an elite fighting/war squad and he’s hardly the picture of health. I think some of you, myself included along my own personal journey, have forgotten about the health aspect - trading size and strength at the expense of overall health. Truly, the most functional and healthy among us would be built like an outstanding special forces guy. Just my opinion…
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
I prefer to think of this age old question in terms of “pit weight”. Pit weight is that weight where you are carrying neither excess fat nor excess muscle…it’s the intersection of your best cardio health and the strongest you can be at that fitness level. It’s probably the kind of shape you’d want to be in if you had to fight for your life. Yeah, okay, Marius is “functional”, I get that…but the likes of Marius would have no place on an elite fighting/war squad and he’s hardly the picture of health. I think some of you, myself included along my own personal journey, have forgotten about the health aspect - trading size and strength at the expense of overall health. Truly, the most functional and healthy among us would be built like an outstanding special forces guy. Just my opinion…[/quote]
What health problems is Marius having?
How much muscle can someone have before they can’t still have cardio health?
And I’ve seen some relatively out of shape special forces guys, and others who were jacked, muscle wise.
I think they train more to kill without being noticed as much as possible, though I can’t say from experience. I worked around some Green Berets for a few months once.
You’re starting to sound like a troll with that last post.
Here’s what so many people have been trying to define with functional:
ADL’s - Activities of Daily Living:
Eating, pooping, showering, sleeping, sitting down, standing up.
Things that you do every day, and are unavoidable
IADL’s - Instrumental Activities of Daily Living
Gardening, meal prep, housework, moving furniture around the house, paying bills.
Stuff you do on a semi-daily basis that you can survive without doing.
Leisure activities - as it says
Lifting weights (for us here), pleasure reading, playing sports, fucking your wife
Generally shit you do when you’re not doing ADL’s and IADL’s or working.
So it has been made clear that:
- Brock Lesnar and Mariuz are both healthy, and able to complete ADL’s and IADL’s.
- You’re having trouble defining functional.
- You’re not exactly sure what you want to be able to do.
Your solution:
Set clear goals. Know what ADL’s and IADL’s you need to complete, and how having greater size will handicap/aide those activities. Weight that with which leisure activities you enjoy (personally I like rugby and hockey) and how important your muscular size vs. performance affects those leisure activities.
Worse case scenario; you get too big, and you eat less. Who’da thunk?
[quote]hachi wrote:
I think functional bodyweight correlates directly with how prepared you are for a zombie apocalypse. So ask your self are you in the ideal condition for Z-day?[/quote]
You know, I just got back from a part of Colorado where giant Elk just walk through peoples yards, mountain lion attacks aren’t rare, and there are deaths related to various wildlife each year. That got me thinking in a zombie survival kind of way. What [and how] would I train to potentially survive crazy shit like this? I’d have to be relatively big, but not so much that it compromises speed and or cardio. I’d have to be strong and explosive as fuck to potentially get out of the way gnarly shit, and I’d have to be ready for anything at any time. That’s what I was thinking when I posted my first response, but this made me explain it.
[quote]chimera182 wrote:
honest_lifter wrote:
donovanbrambila wrote:
honest_lifter wrote:
The majority of people want to perform well for all sorts of activities. If your profession is strongman and that is all you do then that is one thing, but i am talking about day to day activities. Like running hills to playing football to rockclimbing. Things that a normally “athletic” person would think of.
You don’t think big people perform day to day activities? And honestly, I dont think rockclimbing is a day to day activity. It’s something only small people are good at. But football and running hill? Come on. Is that serious?
By “day to day” i didn’t mean you do them everyday. I was just saying these were things that you would do on any given day. I think someone that is a WELL CONDITIONED 210 lbs at 6’2" could do well rock climbing and someone but also could put up a good fight on the o-line of a pickup type game of football. I realize they aren’t going to be winning any awards. I am talking about being a jack-of-all-traders, not specialized in anyone specific task…like post thanksgiving toy shopping.
According to Kant, being a jack-of-all trades is abominable and bad for society.
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Kant died a virgin at age 80. Smart guy, not someone I would take life advice from.
[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
chimera182 wrote:
honest_lifter wrote:
donovanbrambila wrote:
honest_lifter wrote:
The majority of people want to perform well for all sorts of activities. If your profession is strongman and that is all you do then that is one thing, but i am talking about day to day activities. Like running hills to playing football to rockclimbing. Things that a normally “athletic” person would think of.
You don’t think big people perform day to day activities? And honestly, I dont think rockclimbing is a day to day activity. It’s something only small people are good at. But football and running hill? Come on. Is that serious?
By “day to day” i didn’t mean you do them everyday. I was just saying these were things that you would do on any given day. I think someone that is a WELL CONDITIONED 210 lbs at 6’2" could do well rock climbing and someone but also could put up a good fight on the o-line of a pickup type game of football. I realize they aren’t going to be winning any awards. I am talking about being a jack-of-all-traders, not specialized in anyone specific task…like post thanksgiving toy shopping.
According to Kant, being a jack-of-all trades is abominable and bad for society.
Kant died a virgin at age 80. Smart guy, not someone I would take life advice from. [/quote]
Touche. But supposedly a virgin by choice.
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
I prefer to think of this age old question in terms of “pit weight”. Pit weight is that weight where you are carrying neither excess fat nor excess muscle…it’s the intersection of your best cardio health and the strongest you can be at that fitness level. It’s probably the kind of shape you’d want to be in if you had to fight for your life. Yeah, okay, Marius is “functional”, I get that…but the likes of Marius would have no place on an elite fighting/war squad and he’s hardly the picture of health. I think some of you, myself included along my own personal journey, have forgotten about the health aspect - trading size and strength at the expense of overall health. Truly, the most functional and healthy among us would be built like an outstanding special forces guy. Just my opinion…[/quote]
you think that you would beat mariusz in an ‘elite/war squad fight’ if you gain 10 lbs of muscle and he remains at his best conditioning at 315 or whatever?
[quote]brian.m wrote:
TheBodyGuard wrote:
I prefer to think of this age old question in terms of “pit weight”. Pit weight is that weight where you are carrying neither excess fat nor excess muscle…it’s the intersection of your best cardio health and the strongest you can be at that fitness level. It’s probably the kind of shape you’d want to be in if you had to fight for your life. Yeah, okay, Marius is “functional”, I get that…but the likes of Marius would have no place on an elite fighting/war squad and he’s hardly the picture of health. I think some of you, myself included along my own personal journey, have forgotten about the health aspect - trading size and strength at the expense of overall health. Truly, the most functional and healthy among us would be built like an outstanding special forces guy. Just my opinion…
you think that you would beat mariusz in an ‘elite/war squad fight’ if you gain 10 lbs of muscle and he remains at his best conditioning at 315 or whatever?[/quote]
if my life depended on a survival outcome, i’d go to the weight i just described above…which is to LOSE weight, GAIN conditioning…not gain weight. if you think in terms of “beating” marius, you must be 13 years old and in your world, the biggest guy always wins fights. does that about sum it up?
question; do you think marius could box 12 rounds? do you think he could fight 3 five minute rounds? allow me to save you from wasting your time; the answer is no.
If I weighed like 10 pounds, I could jump off of skyscrapers and not get hurt. That would be sweet.
[quote]SWR wrote:
TheBodyGuard wrote:
I prefer to think of this age old question in terms of “pit weight”. Pit weight is that weight where you are carrying neither excess fat nor excess muscle…it’s the intersection of your best cardio health and the strongest you can be at that fitness level. It’s probably the kind of shape you’d want to be in if you had to fight for your life. Yeah, okay, Marius is “functional”, I get that…but the likes of Marius would have no place on an elite fighting/war squad and he’s hardly the picture of health. I think some of you, myself included along my own personal journey, have forgotten about the health aspect - trading size and strength at the expense of overall health. Truly, the most functional and healthy among us would be built like an outstanding special forces guy. Just my opinion…
What health problems is Marius having?
How much muscle can someone have before they can’t still have cardio health?[/quote]
Bueller?
[quote]SWR wrote:
What health problems is Marius having?
How much muscle can someone have before they can’t still have cardio health?[/quote]
i doubt he publishes the results from his doctor visits so what issues he currently has is anyones guess. that said its no secret a man his size will not live as long as he would being 100lbs lighter. i actually think i would dismiss anyone who said different unless they had some hella thought provoking science behind them.
Ok, bear with me here. I am finding out a couple things really quickly here. 1) I am having trouble getting across exactly what I am trying to say. 2) There are a couple people so far that have a much better way with words than me. (The Body Guard, schultzie, and hockechamp to name a few) What TheBodyGuard said about “pit weight” is the IDEA that I am looking for. Not for my height only, but what others at different heights have found to be it.
[quote]honest_lifter wrote:
Ok, bear with me here. I am finding out a couple things really quickly here. 1) I am having trouble getting across exactly what I am trying to say. 2) There are a couple people so far that have a much better way with words than me. (The Body Guard, schultzie, and hockechamp to name a few) What TheBodyGuard said about “pit weight” is the IDEA that I am looking for. Not for my height only, but what others at different heights have found to be it.
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some almost inumerable amount of the same man are thrown into a pit, all different weights. fight to the death. whatever weight would survive crowned most functional. theoretical functionality?
[quote]chimera182 wrote:
honest_lifter wrote:
donovanbrambila wrote:
honest_lifter wrote:
The majority of people want to perform well for all sorts of activities. If your profession is strongman and that is all you do then that is one thing, but i am talking about day to day activities. Like running hills to playing football to rockclimbing. Things that a normally “athletic” person would think of.
You don’t think big people perform day to day activities? And honestly, I dont think rockclimbing is a day to day activity. It’s something only small people are good at. But football and running hill? Come on. Is that serious?
By “day to day” i didn’t mean you do them everyday. I was just saying these were things that you would do on any given day. I think someone that is a WELL CONDITIONED 210 lbs at 6’2" could do well rock climbing and someone but also could put up a good fight on the o-line of a pickup type game of football. I realize they aren’t going to be winning any awards. I am talking about being a jack-of-all-traders, not specialized in anyone specific task…like post thanksgiving toy shopping.
According to Kant, being a jack-of-all trades is abominable and bad for society.
[/quote]
LOL that is quality
essentially what I said before. It’s different for everybody. You have to find it yourself