The Andrew Tate Case

Goes over his scam.

I believe there is lying here. I highly doubt some guy paid 50k just to sit at dinner with a woman.

Either this… or find a prisoner who knows how to wrestle.

Take guy A who has trained kickboxing for 5 years and guy B who has wrestled for 5 years

The wrestler wins 9 times out of 10. Strikers have a punchers chance against someone who knows how to grapple… and this is provided a fight is fair to begin with.

It’s rock paper scissors

Grappler beats striker, anti-grappler (striker with really good takedown and submission defence) beats grappler and a really good striker like andrew tate can plausibly beat an striker with takedown defence.

In prison we have improvised weapons, knives, 10 vs 1 scenarios etc. Then none of the above matters… all of the kickboxing in the world won’t save you from getting stabbed in the back of the neck.

Tate likes Sweden because he thinks the native Swedish men are passive punks whose women are up for grabs because of this. Though he respects immigrant Somalian gangsters there.

Tate views women as currency, both in an economic sense (webcam business) and socially (the man with the honies is big man), which actually lends to the problems he claims to help his male followers with.

Views Scandinavian women as nothing more than f— toys.

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I can’t blame tates behaviour on CTE as he doesn’t have symptoms reminiscent of it (slurred speech, unable to articulate himself well, impaired fine motor coordination etc)

I think the guy is a straight up psychopath. I watched a video where he was talking about how he needs to be engaged in dangerous activities, otherwise he doesn’t feel alive… he feels ā€œnothingā€ from doing the ā€œboring thingsā€ the mere middle class guy/gal might do on a daily basis…

That video alone made me think ā€œthis guy is probably a psychopath. That is something a psychopath would sayā€.

You should also consider that the vast majority of what he says is crafted to give the appearance of being ā€œan alphaā€.

So instead of saying ā€œI love movies about a boy and his dog.ā€ He says stuff like that.

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To paraphrase Seneca, it is not he who has a lot that is rich, but he who does not want more than he has.

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That’s true.

Although this does not prove guilt, his aim
of going to foreign places for exotic flesh, in what I believe is not only for his own sexual penchant for white women, but to dominate them, and show the passive local men who’s boss, gives a terrible impression.

His constant focus on sexual conquest, statements about women to be only screwed and discarded, and focus on white women, is bizarre, and I believe it is partly from spite.

Although he does not condone it, in the video above by Rehab Room/Incel TV there is a clip of him saying that he understands why there is a rape-by-migrant crisis in Europe. He recognizes that the foreigners are alienated (which is not surprising) and because of this, they get frustrated because they cannot land ā€œbeautiful white womenā€ and eventually turn to rape. He said, ā€œthat’s men.ā€ That is not men, because only terrible men would turn to such a terrible crime no matter how frustrated they were. If I parked myself on any continent and couldn’t find a woman, I’d keep my hands off of everyone.

So again, one can see the view of white women considered to be top-shelf women and fetishized, only to be screwed with and nothing more, not only for sexual satisfaction, but to show the locals who are the big men in town.

It’s creepy as all hell and would be equally creepy if this mindset were applied to men and women of any kind. And this makes his huge amount of fans disturbing.

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I’m not familiar with this term, but it seems like you’re insinuating I’m low on the totem poll at whatever it is I do. Is that about right? If you had any familiarity with my extensive post history, you would know that I own a 40 year old metal fabrication company, and while I don’t speak directly to how much money I make, I will say it’s more than what your average lawyer/doctor makes. I’m doing just fine.

From what I’ve seen of Tate, he does all of this, pretty consistently. And the way he frames his wealth is more about buying power than dollars in the bank, if that makes sense.

I don’t believe that everything he has/shows off is rented/leased/whatever one would have to do to acquire these things without actually buying them outright. Honestly, that would end up being more expensive at the end of the day anyway. I think he’s made a shit load of money in some very shady ways, and he happens to be an anomaly in that he brags in a way very few other people with his money would. The exception that proves the rule, so to speak.

Back to you. Your vocabulary is really fucking strange. ā€˜lever pulling hick’, ā€˜rube’, ā€˜thumb your nose’, etc. I can’t figure out what sort of troll you are, but you’re definitely a strange one. May I ask what part of the country you live in? I’m in Texas, and you don’t hear any of these things here, lol. I’ve literally never heard someone call someone else a ā€˜rube’. I know what the word means, I’ve just never actually heard anyone use it, particularly at the frequency you do.

I have a friend who I grew up with who got significantly more out of a man without giving ANYTHING back. He was a very wealthy man in Australia. I would say he spent close to half a million on her before she allowed him a kiss. It was fucking wild. He furnished her house, bought her a car, 6 figures in jewelry, and this was after having spent a total of maybe 10 days with her in total. And this girl wasn’t THAT attractive. She was a playboy model, but like… idk. I wasn’t into her.

People do crazy things.

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It seems he’s in diametric opposition to, and I’m paraphrasing badly, ā€œTake something common and package it as something specialā€. I forget the origin of that, but it has been used to describe how some women operate or gain status or put themselves above others.

So what does he do? He treats them like trash to be used and discarded.

I think its detestable, personally.

That, more than anything, is a testimony to the sad, pathetic state of manhood.

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I posted it above, but I am pretty sure it’s the same person as plinnyc88. I went and looked at that poster. Lots of similarities. Basically the same job, except now he is at a top 5 firm instead of a top 10 firm. Lots of superiority issues. Lots of odd insults, and making fun of people that don’t have high paying jobs.

Just a few snips from the ā€œThoughts on UBIā€ thread. Could be one person that has multiple troll accounts here as well.

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Not buying power. Power. Tate’s ā€œwealthā€ doesn’t pas the Occam’s razor.

John MacAfee, who despite being a colossal piece of shit, actually had money and got away with an actual murder and multiple rapes in Belize. Palm trees, cheap whores, turquoise beaches and corrupt police that can easily be bribed. That’s the go to place for a rapist millionaire.

SBF also had (has?) a lot of money and stayed in the Bahamas, but like everything else he was too much of an idiot to check extradition treaties with the US for various Caribbean countries.

Tate was based in an industrial compound near Bucharest airport. That drab neighborhood doesn’t scream ā€œ$300 millionā€ to me. If you’re not Romanian and don’t have vested business interests in the country there’s no reason to reside there, as it hasn’t got much comparative advantages for an individual worth nine figures - Romanian’s EU membership exposes you to EU supra-national police entities (EUPOL, Frontex) that are extremely hard to buy off.

Also, local corruption. Per the indictment, Tate bought off one criminal inspector. That’s twenty thousand at most. If he really had nine figures, he would have forked somewhere around ten million and bought off the entire policy ministry (as some people in Romania have). But it seems he hasn’t got the money.

My take is that he’s a front for a money laundering scheme that became too successful, so his handlers decided to run with it. In the course of this, Andrew developed delusions of grandeur and decided to went his daddy and closet issues on random women.

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This is my biggest takeaway here. It’s not something I considered seriously enough. Thanks.

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I’m not kidding. When I read the posts here, I thought of that guy. I remember he fired off insults at the law enforcement guy we had here because of his job (marine something). I saw the same similarities: adoration of senior coworkers, insults for blue-collar workers and rural flyover/white-bread people, extreme benchmark for what is considered by reasonable people as wealthy, into powerlifting.

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He also posted some pictures of his tiny home gym. Even assuming it’s actually his… It’s not impressive. Certainly not what I would expect from someone with a lot of money and a passion for the gym. If that’s how much room he has for a home gym… I’ll have to call bullshit.

I think he’s a rube. Or perhaps a lever puller.

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I’ll add there’s something very crude about white-collar people insulting blue-collar people for who they are considering the former build everything so the latter can even do what they do and provide law enforcement.

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I’d place a wager on him not being who he says he is (and that he is the same guy as plinnyc88). Saying things like $300 million isn’t a lot of money is meant to get a response. Degrading what people do for a living is also.

The adoration of his senior coworkers is an attempt to soften his bragging. It still suggests that he makes millions a year if one or two people above him are making billions, but that’s not a lot of money unless you’re an idiot blue or white collar worker haha.

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Yes. And he suggested that us mere worms cannot tell what is actually wealthy because of jobs or upbringing. I was raised in and lived in one of the boroughs of NYC, now live in LI, and have been exposed to people from homeless to multimillionaires living in gated communities. Plus I have a wealthy uncle. Like I can’t tell who’s who.

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Arm chair psychologist here, but I think saying us lever pullers can’t understand what real wealth is, is sorta (not really) subtly saying that in his circle people (and him by being in that circle) are ultra wealthy to the point that we just can’t understand that amount of wealth or how people with that amount of wealth act. Us rubes might know a few people with a few million dollars, but that ain’t shit to him and his friends. He is trying to put himself in a class above everyone else here.

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@GulliverMcGee what say you to these accusations?