ANYHOW
back to Andrew Tate 
I did not mention values. I said who has children regardless of how they view the family unit.
Those with children have a stake in the future. Those who donāt have a stake can get one.
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He mentioned a few things that would improve the economy for Gen Z, if I recall correctly.
In the post about eligibility to vote?
Changing gender dynamics isnāt going to fix inflation, the housing crisisā¦ and removing the need for a college education does jack. College isnāt unaffordable in Aus (considering you only START paying after you begin working full time) and we still have a housing crisisā¦ but college would be very expensive to pay off if you had a family while working JUST after graduation. I think college should be free. It used to be free in Aus
Colleges have in themselves become class based, hierarchical institutions. Today getting into a good college can be more about āwho you knowā and āhow much money you haveā (esp in America) than how well youāve done in school/how much knowledge you have about the field you are trying to enterā¦ that is wrong. The college/course you get into should be a byproduct of how much you know about the field you are trying to enter.
Australia is also a tradie country (meaning a large portion of the population doesnāt have a college education)ā¦ still have a housing crisis.
Fair
Respectfully, I donāt agree
but if I did agree Iād further narrow it down to āpeople who have children and make an active effort to nurture that childā because a deadbeat parent who ditches their child and/or just sits there while letting the kid do whatever isnāt putting any stake into what will be the future.
The child is the āstakeā of the future, not the parent at that point.
How much time do we reckon Tate will get in the slammer
I predict 10-15 years. Letās make a gameā¦ winner gets picture of a hat!
There would be no way of proving this, unless a parent abandoned a family, which would make him ineligible.
Also if a Gen Zer lived at home with a household vote s/he could have some say in what the household vote would be, although the parents could ignore it.
Iām not sure. Maybe 25.
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Under your terms they would no longer be allowed in the military. Would that not preclude them from signing up for the draft?
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His brain is at least developed enough to have processed critical information at one point. It also may have, umm, been diminished at one point.
Iād be willing to cede to a critical thinking skills assessment instead of an age barrier, although I still donāt want 12 year old geniuses voting federally. It could be workshopped.
I misspoke in the original comment. Perhaps no women in combat roles, but that still is an inequal amount of skin in the game.
I donāt think women should serve in the military period, to be totally honest. I also think if you cannot be drafted, you should not be able to vote. By default, that would mean that women cannot vote - though I donāt claim that as a lack of competence, just a lack of stake held.
Women shouldnāt be in the military because a captured male combatant has XYZ torture methods for him, whereas a captured female compatant has the whole alphabet of torture methods for her.
Iām aware that I contradict myself heavily here.
Public companies donāt let folks who donāt own stock vote for their corporate changes, I wonder why?
I might have to claim that I identify as a female in order to prevent getting cancelled after writing this.
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Haha, itās all good man. One of the cool things about our country is that we can disagree and be cool about it (in theory). There was enough incongruity in the post I felt the need to point it out is all, for better or worse.
To keep it brief, my stance is that if we are all equal under God, then we are all afforded the same rights. That means idiots get to vote, and broke people, and women, and whoever else is a legal citizen of our country. I donāt want to see us Animal Farm each other.
Thatās about the only thing Iād take umbrage with. The rest of your post I donāt have particularly strong opinions on one way or the other.
Anyway I should know better than to partake in the derail. Back to colossal tool Andrew Tate. I bet that guy has some opinions on who should get to vote.
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What I gather is that Tate simply wants a low-trust, hostile Third World style model in which the top of the heap rule society and have harems and sex slaves, leaving a hefty amount of womanless and impoverished scrubs. Under him women would likely not drive, vote, or work, and would be relegated to baby making machines and little else. Theyād also be sold on auction blocks. Thatās what I gather from his words.
Yes, thatās how low I think of him.
Even to the detriment to the rest of us? And I mean serious, serious detriment.
Top heap? There is no top heapā¦ there is only Tate. Tate is the top dawg
In Tateās mind, this is Andrew Tate.
As it SHOULD BE! Women are good for ONE thingā¦ making sandwiches! and making babies I suppose (/s)
Wonder who gets Andrew Tateās carsā¦ they should be raffled offā¦ Iād partake in that raffle!
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You wonāt see me trying to change your mind, haha. That was just a little joke for some levity with my exchange with Andrew though.
As it stands now, yes. I understand why you would disagree though.
If I had my druthers, the people we vote into leadership positions wouldnāt have enough power over us for perceived mistakes made by others to matter that much. Currently, it seems as if we as a populace could have an immaculate voting record and somehow weād still get screwed by our leaders.
The above might be better suited to your Balkanization thread rather than derailing this one any further.
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Even look at Andrew Tate with his big prison beardā¦ Looks like a member newly elected member of the Taliban
Canāt imagine prison will be good for himā¦ I mean sure, he can no doubt knock 2 grown men out at onceā¦ but not 12-20 men. Guys who go to prison for rape fare badlyā¦ and being charged with HUMAN TRAFFICKINGā¦ that wonāt go over well
In prison, crimes against women or children lead to one automatically being thrown down to the bottom of the āfood chainā.
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He converted to Islam maybe a year ago, FYI.
Thatās why I made the taliban joke
When he was escorted out of court he was holding a copy or the quran. But he still drinksā¦ which is forbidden in Islam.
You can still be muslim and drink. But to practice (prey regularly), hold a quran yet still drink? I feel as if his conversion was a sham done as a publicity stunt.
erm most of the world its way under 18. 18 was invented as a way to stop child prostitution in victorian england. It was a number so high that a man seen with young women could be arrested on sight for no other reason.
The legal age to marry those same girls was 11-12. It was never a morality issue, ti was literally a way to circumvent child prostitution. As the years went on 18 became the standard and thus a taboo emerged around it. That same country now has a sexual consent age of 16. And it was at one point 8.
Stop trying to force this infantilization on the rest of the world. Most of the world men are working by 13 at the latest. Its only in spoilt countries weve been convinced people should be useless idiots until they are 18-25.